Letter

Stop Rail Now spokesman Eric Ryan's hatred of all things rail has blinded him to the aloha spirit.

[willie]

"Eventually, it will surely encircle the entire island."

And who is going to pay for that? 3 billion for 20 miles equals how much to do a loop around Oahu? And what about anyone in the interior? Going to make it like spokes on a bike wheel with a spur every mile or so going inland?

Just clueless and way too funny.

[Eric Seabury]

Matt Choy said, "Stop Rail Now spokesman Eric Ryan's hatred of all things rail has blinded him to the aloha spirit. His remarks about the former transportation chiefs who endorse rail were crude and demeaning".

I read what Eric Ryan had said in the article. "If these people were ever any good at their jobs, we wouldn't have gridlock, we wouldn't have bottlenecks, we wouldn't have neglect and we wouldn't have roads and highways and freeways full of potholes,".

What's so crude & demeaning about telling the truth?

Mr. Choy then comments that Mr. Ryan is not behaving correctly, as he should be, in the "Aloha State".

I guess Mr. Choy's idea of "behaving" is sitting down and shutting up, even while the bureaucrats lie and rape us clean of our money and our rights?

[Mike Hu]

Freedom in Hawaii --
is the right to vote every two years for the incumbent only.

"Otherwise, shut up and do and believe and do as we tell you."

Uh, that's not quite the way freedom works -- and why your "Democratic" Party thinks it is not worth it to fight for.

[Excuses]

I think a lot more people would be for rail if it didn't cost so much, have the potential to bankrupt the city, and have so little impact on traffic relief.

The process has been flawed from the beginning. Besides not letting people vote on the rail issue, the city never really looked at more effective, lower cost solutions. It went straight for the most expensive, most intrusive option.

Who can say that rail is the "best" traffic relief option?

[SgtchultzyHNL]

Brian Schatz is again out of touch with reality. He continues to alter the facts to fit his own agenda. From what I read in 2003 going forward, Gov. Lingle supported and continues to support an "alternative mode of transportation" to alleviate congestion on our highways. Since the Mayor started his legacy project, the plans and finances have changed numerous times. Moreover, the people of Hawai'i continue to want a voice in the most expensive project in state history. What is problem with finding out more information and then letting the taxpayers decide if they want their grandchildren to pay for it? C'mon Brian, stop running for office in 2010 !

[WahineinEWA]

Schatz, have you asked to see the application to the FEDS requesting the money for the Mayor's ever-changing rail project? Either has anyone else? The Governor is asking questions on our behalf. Why aren't you?

[indaygamay]

Ahhhhh, steel on steel in the middle of the ocean. I can see the maintenance costs would be astronomical soooooooo that'll warrant a replacement i.e "like da stadium" (JOB SECURITY for the construction industry, STUPID)

[mongo]

Eric Ryan is a blowhard and scammer, and anyone who jumps to his defense is so anti-rail that they have lost all perspective. There's more to living in Hawaii than getting your own way at any cost. Hear that Panos?

[Bob]

Governor Lingle is a political fish who is just doing what's natural...flopping.

[Pro Rail Dummies]

Matt Choy displays his ignorance and contempt for the People of Honolulu opposed to Mufi's make work project for the politically connected.

Eric Ryan is right on the money in drawing mounting criticism of a pay-off program to Mufi's mainland haole campaign contributors being sold as "rail."

While Alfred Akana claims to be Hawaiian, all need to be aware that the name Akana is Chinese in origin and a bastardization of a Chinese name. The point here is that Akana DOES NOT speak for Hawaiians in general and clearly DOES NOT speak for Hawaiians OPPOSED to Mufi's get rich scheme at the expense of tax-payers.

That Akana can be duped into buying Mufi's white elephant does not mean Akana gets to speak for the rest of us opposed to Mufi's monstrosity.

Meanwhile Brian Schatz is a pathetic cog in the rusting, decaying Democratic Party machine that once held sway here in Hawaii in the old days.

Trying to hold on to power, Schatz feebly attacks Governor Lingle's correct choice to stand with the People.

Folks like Schatz are merely a reminder of the desperation of the Democrats still smarting over their painful loss of the Governor's office.

Right on, Governor Lingle. The more criticism you get from them, the more you are scene as standing up against the corrupt politics of Hawaii.

And now we have Mufi trying to ride on the coat-tails of Obama.

Corruption of Mufi and Fraud of Obama will be celebrated by the Democrats here soon, in what is sure to be a media circus spotlighting two clowns pretending to be public servants.

[manini]

Brian Schatz's letter is misleading but what else would expect from him. The gov supports our right to vote on the issue. She has not indicated publicly how she stands on the issue of rail itself.
Brian is mixing apples and oranges here and is trying to confuse the issue.

[Eric Seabury]

mongo wrote:

Eric Ryan is a blowhard and scammer, and anyone who jumps to his defense is so anti-rail that they have lost all perspective. There's more to living in Hawaii than getting your own way at any cost. Hear that Panos?

"McLovin", using another alias?

[Terry]

willie wrote:

"Eventually, it will surely encircle the entire island."
And who is going to pay for that? 3 billion for 20 miles equals how much to do a loop around Oahu? And what about anyone in the interior? Going to make it like spokes on a bike wheel with a spur every mile or so going inland?
Just clueless and way too funny.

3 Billion for 20 miles? When I left Waialua they were talking about it being a hundred million per mile. which I though was insane. Honolulu needs a rail but there is no way that cost could be justified. At those prices I could build a rail system for one hundred million a mile and profit about 95 million per.

[djs]

Eric Seabury wrote:

. "If these people were ever any good at their jobs, we wouldn't have gridlock, we wouldn't have bottlenecks, we wouldn't have neglect and we wouldn't have roads and highways and freeways full of potholes,".

The government did not create those problems - you did and the other 400,000 plus people who driver their vehicle everyday with one person.

The government didn't build tens of thousands of homes out on the ewa plain with no viable jobs in the area.

You are the problem and only you can be part of the solution by taking responsiblity for your part of this mess.

[Kailuaresident]

Rail has neatly fallen along Dem vs. Rep. lnes as I always suspected it would. Rail beebfits poor and middle class people. HOT LAnes beenfits rich people. The parties also tend to be asoicated with those two groups. This is why if rail makes it on the ballot, it will be okay. HAwaii is a democratic satte, as much as that burns Eric RYan and Seabury up at night..

[dargent77]

So Choy, the Aloha Spirit is on sales these days for $3.5 billion, the cost of the "rail"?

[John Q Publico]

Looks like Brian Shatz is trying to get a job with the rail people.

I think it is hard for anyone to have a position on anything without getting all the facts ... isn't that the whole point here?

Mufi has his "facts" and others have their own set of "facts". Both sets of facts conflict with the other. So how is a person to be informed?

Should the governor spend state money to investigate more "facts"?

Mufi: the earth is flat

StopRail: the earth is round

Lingle: I don't really have a position on whether the earth is flat or round. But I do support determining which one it is.

Shatz: How can you not have a position, this is ridiculous you were for an increase in taxes.

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I thought the increase was for a transit alternative, not rail. Am I wrong?

Hard to really support something when the costs keep going up. Maybe she supported it at $3 Billion but not at $5. Gee, whats a $2 Billion difference?

[John Q Publico]

willie wrote:

"Eventually, it will surely encircle the entire island."
And who is going to pay for that? 3 billion for 20 miles equals how much to do a loop around Oahu? And what about anyone in the interior? Going to make it like spokes on a bike wheel with a spur every mile or so going inland?
Just clueless and way too funny.

We should give up the federal funds and figure out a way to hire the Chinese to build the rail.

They built their mass transit which is 50 times longer and larger than the one proposed here in Hawaii for $300 million.

Gotta give it to those Chinese. They know how to make things work in many areas. Too bad politics get in the way of giving them the credit they deserve.

[Swedish Meatball]

Eric Seabury wrote:

Matt Choy said, "Stop Rail Now spokesman Eric Ryan's hatred of all things rail has blinded him to the aloha spirit. His remarks about the former transportation chiefs who endorse rail were crude and demeaning".
I read what Eric Ryan had said in the article. "If these people were ever any good at their jobs, we wouldn't have gridlock, we wouldn't have bottlenecks, we wouldn't have neglect and we wouldn't have roads and highways and freeways full of potholes,".
What's so crude & demeaning about telling the truth?
Mr. Choy then comments that Mr. Ryan is not behaving correctly, as he should be, in the "Aloha State".
I guess Mr. Choy's idea of "behaving" is sitting down and shutting up, even while the bureaucrats lie and rape us clean of our money and our rights?

You should talk dude...

[Swedish Meatball]

Pro Rail Dummies wrote:

Matt Choy displays his ignorance and contempt for the People of Honolulu opposed to Mufi's make work project for the politically connected.
Eric Ryan is right on the money in drawing mounting criticism of a pay-off program to Mufi's mainland haole campaign contributors being sold as "rail."
While Alfred Akana claims to be Hawaiian, all need to be aware that the name Akana is Chinese in origin and a bastardization of a Chinese name. The point here is that Akana DOES NOT speak for Hawaiians in general and clearly DOES NOT speak for Hawaiians OPPOSED to Mufi's get rich scheme at the expense of tax-payers.
That Akana can be duped into buying Mufi's white elephant does not mean Akana gets to speak for the rest of us opposed to Mufi's monstrosity.
Meanwhile Brian Schatz is a pathetic cog in the rusting, decaying Democratic Party machine that once held sway here in Hawaii in the old days.
Trying to hold on to power, Schatz feebly attacks Governor Lingle's correct choice to stand with the People.
Folks like Schatz are merely a reminder of the desperation of the Democrats still smarting over their painful loss of the Governor's office.
Right on, Governor Lingle. The more criticism you get from them, the more you are scene as standing up against the corrupt politics of Hawaii.
And now we have Mufi trying to ride on the coat-tails of Obama.
Corruption of Mufi and Fraud of Obama will be celebrated by the Democrats here soon, in what is sure to be a media circus spotlighting two clowns pretending to be public servants.

More finger-pointing by an ORIGINAL STRN financier...no wonder Slater can talk smack and then ride home in his Jag to Pacific Heights