Library needs $1M for books - News

Library needs $1M for books - News

There are 36 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 8, 2009, titled Library needs $1M for books - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

One of the state's most used libraries is about to undergo a $10.3 million renovation that will double its size.

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Doe

Kapaa, HI

#21 Mar 9, 2009
kilu wrote:
2 years to reconstruct? Why is it that it takes more than twice as long as it takes on the mainland when it comes to construction? Maybe too many people standing around tweedling their thumbs?
Yup. I was working at one of the buildings next to Pacific Island Academy when they start building it few years. It only took about a year or so for them to pop up three main buildings.

Leave it to the incompetent state bureaucrats to stretch out the job.
herb

Wailuku, HI

#22 Mar 9, 2009
Lets Get Smart wrote:
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Absolutely right, Herb.$2.4 Billion exceeds the entire operating budget of the City and County of Honolulu. Tht's absurd. The 600 teacher junket to Disney World exceeded the amount the Library needs for books. Yes, cut 20 positions- high level bureaucrats in DOE who don't teach one student.
Absurd, as you say, is one word that describes this library situation. A library without books is like a car without an engine. May I us4e the word again? "ABSURD".
alice

Honolulu, HI

#23 Mar 9, 2009
herb should have a regular column in the nearly defunct Advertiser. He covers the DOE better than anyone writing in the news industry. We need more independent commentary like Herb's.
herb

Wailuku, HI

#24 Mar 9, 2009
alice wrote:
herb is spot-on and I wish he were writing for the news papers. Almost no newspaper tells what herb does. That is too bad. What also needs to be said is that the DOE has FAR fewer students today than it did 20 years ago and yet its budget is enormous in size.
Yes , Alice you are correct on this one. The Star bulletin writers are about 80% tied down to special interests, so they are handcuffed not to say too much and delve into the story too deeply to protect the people involved in the dirt. The Advertiser is completely beholden to special interests and sometimes will not even touch a controversial story that deals with a story like the junket taken by 600 educators to DISNEY WORLD. What I mean is, that, our dailies did not send any writer to interview the two very high officials that went, namely, Assist. Superintendent Daniel Hamada and BOE member Breene Harimoto.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#25 Mar 9, 2009
Very true..both newspapers have been stripped of an investigative journalist function. Both papers are useless to the public. Honlulu Weekly used to be an independent voice but is now bland and mainly a waste of time. TV reporting here is a joke. People are turning to blogs to find out what the real news is. Despite the eccentricities of the blogs, there is indeed more news there than the papers.
herb

Wailuku, HI

#26 Mar 9, 2009
alice wrote:
herb should have a regular column in the nearly defunct Advertiser. He covers the DOE better than anyone writing in the news industry. We need more independent commentary like Herb's.
Thank you again, Alice. Here are my qualifications: I have no qualifications to start with. I am not a card carrying Democrat or Republican. I look at both candidates and make my selection accordingly. I have no position with the DOE. I am retired so my status is unemployed. I have no connections with firms or organizations dealing with the government. In fact I don't belong to any club. I am literally free as a bird. My only desire is to share some of the thoughts that I have in my heart.
blah

Honolulu, HI

#27 Mar 9, 2009
Reset wrote:
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Please, if you post about learning, upgrade your grammar.
Libraries cannot be "one" of anything. This should be: "Libraries are among the best places for children to learn"; alternately, you may write: "A library is one of the best places for children to learn." Also, "Many of the books ... was at the Kaimuki Library" is also improper. It should be: "Many of the books ... were at the Kaimuki Library": or, you probably meant to write: "It was at the Kaimuki Library that I read many books as a youngster." Plus, you omitted the comma in: "Encouraging, too, but why ..."
And your point is?
Why has this forum become an english class or are you just picking on Lana?
blah

Honolulu, HI

#28 Mar 9, 2009
Malama manoa wrote:
I use the Manoa Library and know a lot about the new building. Two years will include demolition of the existing library and construction of the new library. Also, staff say it is a generous estimate. If it opens earlier, everyone is happy. If a shorter estimate is given, and it opens late, patrons are upset.
This is a project for which funds had to be appropriated and encumbered years ago. It started long before and will hopefully end after the current fiscal hard times.
Also, the community will be raising funds for library materials for the new building. The Friends of Manoa Library will take charge of that.
Finally, the materials being deselected from the collection *are* going to other libraries. The library staff is choosing items for 'weeding' that will no longer be pertinent in two years (legal, medical, testing information are examples) and they are going to other libraries. The interim library will only be able to have about 10,000 items so those are the very popular materials and classics. Anything put in storage will be of lasting value (Out of print Hawaiiana, cookbooks). The reason the library staff is not farming *those* materials out to other libraries on temporary loan is b/c there's a good chance they won't come back.
In my opinion, The library system and the manoa staff are smart and doing this in the most effective manner.
Mahalo for the detailed insight. Sometimes we tend to form and voice our opinions on incomplete or generalized information from the newspaper articles
alice

Honolulu, HI

#29 Mar 9, 2009
Herb is better informed than the newspapers. We need his voice. We so regularly get the unvarnished truth on any topic in Hawaii. And hurray for the friends of Manoa Library. The private sector can really help this project succeed.
LDG

Honolulu, HI

#30 Mar 9, 2009
alice wrote:
Truth is, library use is way down all over America as the computer replaces some of its traditional functions. Bad planning all the way around in the state.
Actually, that statement is very wrong. Where do you get your information from? National and local studies show Library use has actually gone dramatically up. As people have less money to spend, they now head to libraries which provide free books, cds, movies (exception $1 here in Hawaii), some libaries in the mainland even loan video games. Perhaps, you chose to be lazy and only read off the internet (ie internet does not contain the same type of information that libraries can provide) but do not assume everyone else is the same.
Cora

Honolulu, HI

#31 Mar 9, 2009
Christel Collins is one of the smartest branch library managers in the system. With the assistance of Manoa residents, I am sure she will find a way to create a wonderful library collection.
Book Lover

Honolulu, HI

#32 Mar 9, 2009
Alice is not credible on this Hawaii library matter. Heck, she lives Canada.
LDG wrote:
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Actually, that statement is very wrong. Where do you get your information from? National and local studies show Library use has actually gone dramatically up. As people have less money to spend, they now head to libraries which provide free books, cds, movies (exception $1 here in Hawaii), some libaries in the mainland even loan video games. Perhaps, you chose to be lazy and only read off the internet (ie internet does not contain the same type of information that libraries can provide) but do not assume everyone else is the same.
Book Lover

Honolulu, HI

#33 Mar 9, 2009
Please check your facts! The public library system is a separate department and operates on an annual budget of approximately $30 million (not $48M). Unlike the DOE, public libraries serves as community resource centers for people of all ages, from keiki to kupuna.
herb wrote:
2% of the $2.4 billion educational budget is earmarked annually for library services which amounts to $48,000,000. However, the DOE is claiming that they are short of funds and would have to cut services and release 20 employees. Two years from now they anticipate the budget shortfall will continue so they will not be able to stock the new Manoa library with one million dollars worth of books. This is a ridiculous budgeting of the DOE. The amount set aside for library services is a very small amount compared to the massive educational budget which protects the heavily paid bureaucrats in the Central office. Cutting 20 employees is a very drastic step and is indeed very wrong. No movement by the BOE and DOE to release 20 bureaucrats in the DOE central office to offset laying off 20 middle income wage earners. The DOE will not look at themselves as being the problem. The BOE, likewise, will look the other way.
herb

Wailuku, HI

#34 Mar 9, 2009
Book Lover wrote:
Please check your facts! The public library system is a separate department and operates on an annual budget of approximately $30 million (not $48M). Unlike the DOE, public libraries serves as community resource centers for people of all ages, from keiki to kupuna.
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Please check the last audit report and it clearly states that 2% of the educational budget is allocated for library services.The Library system might be a separate department, but 2% of the educational budget is still $48,000,000.
Translator

Keauhou, HI

#35 Mar 9, 2009
Book Lover wrote:
...Unlike the DOE, public libraries serves as community resource centers for people of all ages, from keiki to kupuna.
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I agree that the DOE does NOT serve as a community resource center!
Libraries need all the help they can get, and some of it can definitely come out of the DOE's pockets!
$30mil or $48mil--it doesn't matter as much as the $2.5 B-I-L-L-I-O-N the DOE gets.
Libraries are much more important to the communities they serve than so many "programs" run by the DOE bureaucracy!
SUPPORT PUBLIC LIBRARIES!
troubling times

Kaneohe, HI

#36 Mar 9, 2009
Manapua Man wrote:
Simple answer. Legalize gambling!!!!!!!!
Don't stoop so low.

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