Library needs $1M for books - News

Library needs $1M for books - News

There are 36 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 8, 2009, titled Library needs $1M for books - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

One of the state's most used libraries is about to undergo a $10.3 million renovation that will double its size.

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kilu

Honolulu, HI

#1 Mar 8, 2009
2 years to reconstruct? Why is it that it takes more than twice as long as it takes on the mainland when it comes to construction? Maybe too many people standing around tweedling their thumbs?

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Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#2 Mar 8, 2009
Libraries are one of the best places for children to learn. Many of the books I read as a youngster was at the Kaimuki Library. The librarians there were nice and friendly.

Encouraging too but why so long to build the new one??? Two years??? In some places some construction companies are given a bonus for completing the construction sooner. Two years seems way too LONG.
Woulda Coulda Shoulda

Mililani, HI

#3 Mar 8, 2009
kilu wrote:
2 years to reconstruct? Why is it that it takes more than twice as long as it takes on the mainland when it comes to construction? Maybe too many people standing around tweedling their thumbs?
Could be more perception than fact. Could be our government permitting process, inefficiencies, red tape. Could be unavailability of materials, since almost everything needs to be shipped in.
Library Fan

Honolulu, HI

#4 Mar 8, 2009
"The current 50,000-item collection will be cut in half, with about 10,000 items going into circulation at the portables, 15,000 being stored and 25,000 items being discarded or donated to other facilities."

Why will some books be stored? Why not put them on the shelves? Why discard or donate 25,000? Why not keep them, or sell them? Friends of the Library in other communities are making thousands of dollars every month selling used books. I bring fantastic books in on a regular basis, so that the Friends can earn money to support libraries. Manoa is an affluent community with many schools and professionals who could afford to give or donate to buy books. I'm all for supporting our libraries, but asking taxpayers for a million dollars to buy books right now might not be the best plan.
priorities

Kailua, HI

#5 Mar 8, 2009
I support Library Fan's support of the public library system ,but I think LF has overestimated the impact of used book sales. Making a few thousand a month off book sales is not going to generate a million dollars any time soon. Alas, the real issue is not the 2 year window of waiting but society's preference to pay a football coach a million a year but have to scrape to find the same amount of money for library books. This fact alone helps explain poor performance by kids in school.
Hawaii Gal

Honolulu, HI

#6 Mar 8, 2009
Given the problem and budget constraints, why are 25,000 books being donated or discarded? They should be kept.
In these times we should learn to make do with what we have. The libraries have books they sell used for $.25 - 1.00 that look next to new. Even the older ones can still be used longer. Are they really tracking the usage for each book.?

If there is a storage problem, perhaps they can ask for volunteers to help keep them for until the library reopens. I would volunteer to take several hundred books.
Manapua Man

AOL

#7 Mar 8, 2009
Simple answer. Legalize gambling!!!!!!!!
John T

Apo, AE

#8 Mar 8, 2009
Only in Hawaii would you build a $10.3M building. Then not fill it with books. Guess it's like the train we're building it will have no riders.

Woudl it not make since ot shrink the building by a Million or so so you could have books?
retsamssa

Honolulu, HI

#9 Mar 8, 2009
State lawmakers 36% pay raise adds up to $4 million, we should just use that money.
Reset

Wailuku, HI

#10 Mar 8, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
Libraries are one of the best places for children to learn. Many of the books I read as a youngster was at the Kaimuki Library. The librarians there were nice and friendly.
Encouraging too but why so long to build the new one??? Two years??? In some places some construction companies are given a bonus for completing the construction sooner. Two years seems way too LONG.
Please, if you post about learning, upgrade your grammar.

Libraries cannot be "one" of anything. This should be: "Libraries are among the best places for children to learn"; alternately, you may write: "A library is one of the best places for children to learn." Also, "Many of the books ... was at the Kaimuki Library" is also improper. It should be: "Many of the books ... were at the Kaimuki Library": or, you probably meant to write: "It was at the Kaimuki Library that I read many books as a youngster." Plus, you omitted the comma in: "Encouraging, too, but why ..."
Reset

Wailuku, HI

#11 Mar 8, 2009
Also, "Many of the books ... was at the Kaimuki Library" is also improper.

My mistake; I doubled the "also." There should be one not two.
leeward lolo

Elgin, IL

#12 Mar 8, 2009
Great minds focus on ideas not little nitpicky things like grammar.

Did you have trouble understand what she meant?

Even our favorite UH student Alice throws in a grammatical error at times.
leeward lolo

Elgin, IL

#13 Mar 8, 2009
There is a petition around asking to not have the Waianae library closed.

It is probably one of the most important libraries in the state given that books are rarely seen in homes these days.

Also in the past few years a major renovation took place there. A bookmobile was parked in the parking lot.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#14 Mar 8, 2009
Why on earth don't they have a book drive from the public? They are in the intellectual center of the state-Manoa-and many of the professors and well educated families in that area have perfectly good books to donate. Truth is, library use is way down all over America as the computer replaces some of its traditional functions. Bad planning all the way around in the state.
Malama manoa

Ewa Beach, HI

#15 Mar 8, 2009
I use the Manoa Library and know a lot about the new building. Two years will include demolition of the existing library and construction of the new library. Also, staff say it is a generous estimate. If it opens earlier, everyone is happy. If a shorter estimate is given, and it opens late, patrons are upset.

This is a project for which funds had to be appropriated and encumbered years ago. It started long before and will hopefully end after the current fiscal hard times.

Also, the community will be raising funds for library materials for the new building. The Friends of Manoa Library will take charge of that.

Finally, the materials being deselected from the collection *are* going to other libraries. The library staff is choosing items for 'weeding' that will no longer be pertinent in two years (legal, medical, testing information are examples) and they are going to other libraries. The interim library will only be able to have about 10,000 items so those are the very popular materials and classics. Anything put in storage will be of lasting value (Out of print Hawaiiana, cookbooks). The reason the library staff is not farming *those* materials out to other libraries on temporary loan is b/c there's a good chance they won't come back.

In my opinion, The library system and the manoa staff are smart and doing this in the most effective manner.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#16 Mar 8, 2009
good..thanks for the information. 90% of books can be donated without dating problems. Shalespeare is a Shakespeare. Librarians tend to want everything new but they do not deserve that in this day of shortage.
herb

Wailuku, HI

#17 Mar 8, 2009
2% of the $2.4 billion educational budget is earmarked annually for library services which amounts to $48,000,000. However, the DOE is claiming that they are short of funds and would have to cut services and release 20 employees. Two years from now they anticipate the budget shortfall will continue so they will not be able to stock the new Manoa library with one million dollars worth of books. This is a ridiculous budgeting of the DOE. The amount set aside for library services is a very small amount compared to the massive educational budget which protects the heavily paid bureaucrats in the Central office. Cutting 20 employees is a very drastic step and is indeed very wrong. No movement by the BOE and DOE to release 20 bureaucrats in the DOE central office to offset laying off 20 middle income wage earners. The DOE will not look at themselves as being the problem. The BOE, likewise, will look the other way.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#18 Mar 8, 2009
herb is right. Friends of the Library should augment short funds with a book drive. That type of drive is easy to do.
Lets Get Smart

Makawao, HI

#19 Mar 8, 2009
herb wrote:
2% of the $2.4 billion educational budget is earmarked annually for library services which amounts to $48,000,000. However, the DOE is claiming that they are short of funds and would have to cut services and release 20 employees. Two years from now they anticipate the budget shortfall will continue so they will not be able to stock the new Manoa library with one million dollars worth of books. This is a ridiculous budgeting of the DOE. The amount set aside for library services is a very small amount compared to the massive educational budget which protects the heavily paid bureaucrats in the Central office. Cutting 20 employees is a very drastic step and is indeed very wrong. No movement by the BOE and DOE to release 20 bureaucrats in the DOE central office to offset laying off 20 middle income wage earners. The DOE will not look at themselves as being the problem. The BOE, likewise, will look the other way.
Absolutely right, Herb.$2.4 Billion exceeds the entire operating budget of the City and County of Honolulu. Tht's absurd. The 600 teacher junket to Disney World exceeded the amount the Library needs for books. Yes, cut 20 positions- high level bureaucrats in DOE who don't teach one student.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#20 Mar 8, 2009
herb is spot-on and I wish he were writing for the news papers. Almost no newspaper tells what herb does. That is too bad. What also needs to be said is that the DOE has FAR fewer students today than it did 20 years ago and yet its budget is enormous in size.

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