State examines school closures - News

State examines school closures - News

There are 43 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 26, 2008, titled State examines school closures - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The Hawaii Department of Education has begun studying whether to shut down small public schools from Kauai to the Big Island because of declining enrollment and rising expenses.

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Rickey Ricketts

Oakboro, NC

#1 Nov 26, 2008
Phase 3
Big Island

» Kohala High/Kohala Middle/Kohala Elementary

Good plan...close the schools so the kids can sit on a bus for 3 hours per day!
This seems to be proof that each island should be a seperate district so the bozos on Oahu can not scre-up the outer islands also.
Who is thinking/caring for the outer island kids?
DOE haha

Honolulu, HI

#2 Nov 26, 2008
close the small schools, people don't turn out to vote, the Board of Education is supreme ruler of the DOE = take care of the high paying friends that have their great retirement pensions just around the corner. We shouldn't have a totally elected Board of Education.

Get rid of Galen Onouye. He doesn't know anything and he is pulling in over $100,000 just because he was Board of Education Executive Director but it wasn't enough money for his trips across the Pacific.

So now our kids and the low paid workers have to sacrifice.

Shame, yeah?
An Observer

Keaau, HI

#3 Nov 26, 2008
Yes, some small close should be closed, but Hamamoto should not close any school until she slashes her State and District administrative staffs.

Why close schools to protect administrative jobs? Hamamoto is like the CEOs of the Wall Street firms that created our economic crisis. Take care of management and let the public, shareholders and taxpayer bear the brunt of failed policies. the BOE might as well give her a big bonus and a private jet.

The BOE, Hamamoto, Legislature and Lingle are all too concerned about their personal advancement to care about the kids and the communities. They all need to resign.
An Observer

Keaau, HI

#4 Nov 26, 2008
Correction - first line should have read:
"Yes, some small schools..."
herbert morioka

Mililani, HI

#5 Nov 26, 2008
Around ONE BILLION DOLLARS of the $2.4 billion dollar educational budget is used to pay the BUREAUCRATS in the central office. Each year this amount is wasted to pay our educational officers who have not produced any appreciable results in our public school system. How long are we going to let this hypocrisy to continue. The state is finally running out of money and we will have to eventually close ALL SCHOOLS.
Uilani

Burbank, IL

#6 Nov 26, 2008
Why don't we close down some of these do-nothing legislatures who shop at wal-mart at 9am in the morning when they should be in meetings..also shut down p hamamoto who is in macy's ala moana during her working hours..oh sorry she either took 3hrs vacation or 3hrs sick leave on our time...the top is heavy and the bottom suffers..damm these so called leaders in this state of aloha.and what is up with GAYlen O?
Rolf Nordahl

Waipahu, HI

#7 Nov 26, 2008
Our desire to provide a good education for our children prompts us to allocate about 20% of the states budget. I fear that too much of this money goes to top heavy administration with little left for the actual schools.

When mandated to cut spending in tight times, this top heavy administration decides to close schools.

Our children and our future suffer.
Hawaiian Warrior

Honolulu, HI

#8 Nov 26, 2008
DOE haha wrote:
close the small schools, people don't turn out to vote, the Board of Education is supreme ruler of the DOE = take care of the high paying friends that have their great retirement pensions just around the corner. We shouldn't have a totally elected Board of Education.
Get rid of Galen Onouye. He doesn't know anything and he is pulling in over $100,000 just because he was Board of Education Executive Director but it wasn't enough money for his trips across the Pacific.
So now our kids and the low paid workers have to sacrifice.
Shame, yeah?
Galen Onouye making over $100,000.00 as an "Education Executive Director", another bogus clown, Randy Moore making 6 figure salary as a "Assistant Superintendent", if the Superintendent needs a assistant, then he should be fired!.

Then you have another BOE member John Penebacker, better known as a basketball player also making 6 figures along with the entire BOE staff. Their annual take amounts to $millions along with their bloated 15,000 "administrative support personnel" Bear in mind that this staff has almost doubled from the pre 1990 levels of 8,000 support and the student population remain rather constant, yet the achievement scores have NOT improved and gone down!

Thus, one can conclude that significantly increasing this "Administrative Support" served only one purpose, to create a bloated, incompetent, corrupt DOE bureaucracy along with corrupt unions AT THE EXPENSE of the teachers and students it is LEGALLY binding to support!

Any private company having 15,000 "admin support" verses 11,000 production (teachers) would go bankrupt in short order. The most logical and economic solution is to get rid of this bloated "Administrative Support", to pre 1990 levels and start from the top, the Board of Education should be fired for breach of contract along with crimminal charges for not accounting for the $400,000,000.00 gone missing each and every year for over 12 years.

Just doing these measures will more than balance the DOE budget, keep all the schools intact, fix the maintenance problems and still have enough to hire more teachers!

Fire them NOW, don't wait for any more "studies" costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands $$$. Just wondering who this politician Rep Roy Takumi has in mind to do a "school closure study"? Is it one of his family member, a friend or crony? Don't need any more studies, just fire these parasites before they have a chance to "massage" the State high 3 employment years in order to "retire" at a higher pension-for-life benefit.

They don't deserve this, because of their "blood sucking" activities, benefiting with high incomes, while the students are thrown out into the streets like garbage. To enable these parasites another unearned pension income is an insult and crime for ruining the careers of thousands of young adults.
you are correct

Mililani, HI

#9 Nov 26, 2008
Uilani wrote:
Why don't we close down some of these do-nothing legislatures who shop at wal-mart at 9am in the morning when they should be in meetings..also shut down p hamamoto who is in macy's ala moana during her working hours..oh sorry she either took 3hrs vacation or 3hrs sick leave on our time...the top is heavy and the bottom suffers..damm these so called leaders in this state of aloha.and what is up with GAYlen O?
You are absolutely correct. I haven't seen the people you mentioned, but I have seen people that I know who should be working in the Central Office at the shopping malls and one person at the Golf Range.
ESPI

Honolulu, HI

#10 Nov 26, 2008
Don't Close Down Schools! Bah! Humbug!
Decrease the ratio between Teachers/Students?
How long will this decrease enrollment goin be?

Keiki o ka aina i ka pono!!!!

One giveth one taketh away!! God Bless Hawaii!!
Kam

Honolulu, HI

#11 Nov 26, 2008
I agree with chopping big pieces out of the administration. Another plan should be to mandate that DOE empoloyees have to send their children to public schools. I bet then the schools wpould start to improve for some strange reason.
Hey Pat if you are reading this the DOE better get ready for the influx of kids that were in private school and now the family can't afford it any more. Just when you close down some schools that would be perfect government planning.
herbert morioka

Mililani, HI

#12 Nov 26, 2008
15,000 bureaucrats and 13,000 teachers on the front lines. Lets reverse the numbers and have 25,000 teachers and 3,000 administrators. What does this mean? The teacher pupil ratio will become 7 to 1 which will undoubtedly be the best in the world. We have the money and can be done but will not be done. Even a 15 to 1 ratio is adequate to provide a quality education for the children of Hawaii.
sam owens

Honolulu, HI

#13 Nov 26, 2008
i say first get rid of our hopeless board of education. nothing about public education has become better in recent years. students are underachieving, teachers are overworked with useless paper that keeps them from focusing on teaching, and there is less money to go around to fund classes and programs. what a shame and embarrassment to our government and educational system!
kapaa

Lihue, HI

#14 Nov 26, 2008
The proncipals do all the budgeting already.. just give them the mandate and the money and get rid of the BOE, it is useless and costs much too much for doing nothing
herbert morioka

Mililani, HI

#16 Nov 26, 2008
sam owens wrote:
i say first get rid of our hopeless board of education. nothing about public education has become better in recent years. students are underachieving, teachers are overworked with useless paper that keeps them from focusing on teaching, and there is less money to go around to fund classes and programs. what a shame and embarrassment to our government and educational system!
You are being very nice by saying public education has not improved in recent years. I would like to correct that statement by saying public education has not improved for almost FOUR DECADES. The rest of your post is an excellent appraisal of our public educational system
alice

Honolulu, HI

#17 Nov 26, 2008
true
Concerned voter

Mililani, HI

#18 Nov 26, 2008
A better way to save money is to fire 1/2 the legislators. They haven't done anything productive for years and should get real jobs. Education is the base of our furture and should be the last thing cut for the State to prosper.
herbert morioka

Mililani, HI

#19 Nov 26, 2008
kapaa wrote:
The proncipals do all the budgeting already.. just give them the mandate and the money and get rid of the BOE, it is useless and costs much too much for doing nothing
You are correct. Get rid of the BUMS of EDUCATION(BOE). Give the money to the schools and give the principals the authority to spend where it is needed. Without CON CON, our present situation cannot be corrected. The only solution that I can see is for our superintendent to make the necessary corrections but this idea seems very remote.
Downtown Clown

Honolulu, HI

#20 Nov 26, 2008
This is why we need con con.
Anonymous

Aiea, HI

#21 Nov 26, 2008
The DOE is "LOOKING" into it. I remember that one add that Corky had where the School Administration's budget increased but not going into the schools themselves. Most teachers would rather do admininstrative paperwork than teach or go up in management and manage other "administrative" teachers.

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