Bicyclist keeps spirit high after par...

Bicyclist keeps spirit high after paralyzing accident - Hawaii ...

There are 69 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Sep 27, 2009, titled Bicyclist keeps spirit high after paralyzing accident - Hawaii .... In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

John Henderson was riding his bicycle mauka on Kamehameha Highway from Haleiwa on May 2 when a tour bus hit him from behind, throwing him more than 90 feet.

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Yes We Cant

Hayes, VA

#1 Sep 27, 2009
Good luck John, I know from knowing you that you will gut this through and that you are a very strong individual. I am glad that you are out of the hospital, as I have been asking. Keep the faith brother, you are always in my thoughts.
WhatsGoingOn

Vancouver, Canada

#2 Sep 27, 2009
Nitta said officers will have a difficult time determining whether a vehicle passes within 3 feet. He said the proposal will also create a "bubble" around bicycles. "And everybody would be slowed down at the speed of the bicyclist," he said.

Nitta is as babling idiot!

We live in the age of 300 pound high schoolers, devouring MacDonald hamburgers, and we have a proposal to make our streets safe and we get this attitude from the cops!

I'm more of a walker and our cops have very little knowledge of crosswalks and bike lanes, unlike many mainland cities who advocate safe streets we have people employed by us thinking the roads and sidewalks are for cars only.

I advocate firing Nitta and getting somebody in the police department who rides bikes for exercise in his position and only then will we have safe streets.
Mike

United States

#3 Sep 27, 2009
I hope you get better with time. We need to know if you are one of those bike riders who break every rule in the book. I see so many other bicyclist who cut in front of cars. Ride through the red light. Weave in and out of traffic. Be safe. Only takes one error and it's all over. Can't wind back the times.
Cyclist

Lahaina, HI

#4 Sep 27, 2009
WhatsGoingOn wrote:
Nitta said officers will have a difficult time determining whether a vehicle passes within 3 feet. He said the proposal will also create a "bubble" around bicycles. "And everybody would be slowed down at the speed of the bicyclist," he said.
Nitta is as babling idiot!
We live in the age of 300 pound high schoolers, devouring MacDonald hamburgers, and we have a proposal to make our streets safe and we get this attitude from the cops!
I'm more of a walker and our cops have very little knowledge of crosswalks and bike lanes, unlike many mainland cities who advocate safe streets we have people employed by us thinking the roads and sidewalks are for cars only.
I advocate firing Nitta and getting somebody in the police department who rides bikes for exercise in his position and only then will we have safe streets.
Right on! See you at ther Century Ride this morning!

The Nitta comments really makes our cops look realy stupid.

He says cops cannot judge 3 feet!

The fact is Nitta probably only has 2 inches but was told by his dad it was 6 inches so now he thinks 3 feet is like 3 yards.

Time to retire Nitta!
quebert

Haubstadt, IN

#5 Sep 27, 2009
cycling on Oahu I was struck by vehicles 4 times in about a six year period. Twice at stoplights from behind while waiting for the red light, once by a car turning left in front of me, and lastly I was t=boned by a ford f150 that was pulling out of the parking lot at the top of the hill from Kapalama gate at Pearl Harbor. I was in the crosswalk at 5 p.m. in broad daylight. The guy broke my spine at the L2 vertebrae, while I'm walking, I now have a back that fails anytime it wants to and puts my down, for no reason. My driver was never cited, and I've born all the expense and problems myself. I hope you also recover my friend, and maybe since your getting health care, you won't be left with permanent problems like me.
Spread Thin

Kapolei, HI

#6 Sep 27, 2009
C'mon, it isnt that hard to tell when a car gets too close to a bike! Wait, I see the problem ... HPD really is spread thin, therefore doesnt enforce the existing laws, much less another one that makes sense.
Good Luck, John!
Von

Aiea, HI

#7 Sep 27, 2009
Hawaii is just too small. I don't ride a bike, but I'm all for better bike lanes.

Good luck John.
Disgusted

Kapolei, HI

#8 Sep 27, 2009
What happened is a terrible tragedy. Pointing fingers is not going to solve the problem. It will take a combined effort to do so, and we need to start by seeing the other sides point of view. We can begin with the legislature and the city council in providing SAFE roads and streets. It should begin with looking at the roads and streets designated as bike routes. In Kaneohe, Kaneohe Bay drive is used by many cyclists and bike ride events. The area near the H-3 on/off ramp where Kaneohe Bay Drive turns and Mokapu Blvd. begins is a narrow two-lane road (one in each direction) with no shoulders and many curves that the drivers cannot see around until it reaches Yacht Club Terrace. All the members of the city council who voted for this should be voted out of office and declared incompetent. Bicycle riders should also realize that they put the vehicle drivers in a position where going around them requires the drivers to go into the on-coming lane where they may not see a large delivery truck coming until it's too late. Yeah, the driver should wait until there is a clear view. However, if they don't, they have a split second to decide whether to get hit by a large truck or swerve into the bike rider. Is it worth the risk?
Lazy Police

Honolulu, HI

#9 Sep 27, 2009
The only reason to oppose this bill is laziness on the part of police. Every other moving violation has to be directly witnessed by a cop anyway. Why are they treating this different? The law could be written to say 3' or a 'safe distance,' allowing officers some discretion.

The shoulder is very wide where John was hit. Plenty of space for bicycles to ride out of the way of autos. What happened to him shows why there needs to be a "bubble" around cyclists.

Everyone leaves a "bubble" around other cars anyway.
huh

Aiea, HI

#10 Sep 27, 2009
what makes cops so special? i see them on bicycle training rides all the time. the cops know that honolulu drivers are idiots so they have a police car with lights flashing following those bicycle training rides. if we as ordinary citizen have to take the risk as they propose then I cops should too.
notodop

Yuba City, CA

#11 Sep 27, 2009
When they respond to bicycle - auto accidents it's my experience that HPD automatically assume the bicyclist is at fault.
Until HPD leadership starts to insist that its own officers obey laws we will continue to have unnecessary accidents. Yesterday while driving I observed one HPD blue & white car turn into a crosswalk and nearly hit a woman who was crossing with the light. Shortly thereafter I watched another blue and white car continually changing lanes on H1 and not once using a turn signal plus he was speeding. Five minutes after that I observed another unmarked car with two HPD detectives driving up Kam Hwy at excessive speed and without using any turn signals. Was he going to a crime? Nope, rushing to Foodland Waipio. It' time for HPD to start enforcing the laws not demonstrating how to break them.
PPBME

Honolulu, HI

#12 Sep 27, 2009
Lazy Police wrote:
The only reason to oppose this bill is laziness on the part of police. Every other moving violation has to be directly witnessed by a cop anyway. Why are they treating this different? The law could be written to say 3' or a 'safe distance,' allowing officers some discretion.
The shoulder is very wide where John was hit. Plenty of space for bicycles to ride out of the way of autos. What happened to him shows why there needs to be a "bubble" around cyclists.
Everyone leaves a "bubble" around other cars anyway.
With the "very wide" shoulder with "plenty of space for bicycles to ride out of the way of autos," there could have 3 feet distance between bike and roadway. So the proposed law wouldn't help in that case where drivers run off the roadway.
Bob_Mililani

San Diego, CA

#13 Sep 27, 2009
One thing for sure is you can't legislate common sense, which seems to be lacking in many bicyclists and vehicle operators alike. Until such time both groups start to think about the consequences of their actions, things won't improve. We all do stupid things, some of us more so than others.
huh

Waimanalo, HI

#14 Sep 27, 2009
Bob_Mililani wrote:
One thing for sure is you can't legislate common sense, which seems to be lacking in many bicyclists and vehicle operators alike. Until such time both groups start to think about the consequences of their actions, things won't improve. We all do stupid things, some of us more so than others.
Hawaii ranks in the top 5 for hitting cyclists, hitting peditrians in crosswalks and hitting pedistrians on sidewalks. Hell even Hawaii cops kill 2 pedistrians in crosswalks.

I alwsys see tourist inquiring about cycling in Hawaii on the forums. I always ask them if they have a death wish.
George Bush

Portland, OR

#15 Sep 27, 2009
I am truly sorry for you Mr. Henderson and I hope that you can fully recover,this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. I walk daily in Waikiki and the Ala Wai Canal area but I see many bicyclist cut and weave in and out on the street,and what really is bad is those bicyclist who ride on the sidewalks,I have been hit twice by riders on the sidewalk.Personally whether You bicyclist are right or wrong you will always lose when being hit by a vehicle,Bicyclist should not be riding on the roads or sidewalk as it is just to dangerous in Hawaii.
lumloy371yahooco m

Lihue, HI

#16 Sep 27, 2009
Major Thomas Nitta of HPD is correct, to say the proposal will create a "bubble" around cycles, which is exactly what is needed to keep monster motor vehicles from destroying people.
Slowing everybody down to the speed of cyclists would greatly enhance life by adjusting the machine speed demon madness that dehumanizes us, to a human speed in step with life in paradise, the land of Hawaiian hospitality & aloha.
lumloy371yahooco m

Lihue, HI

#17 Sep 27, 2009
Mike wrote:
I hope you get better with time. We need to know if you are one of those bike riders who break every rule in the book. I see so many other bicyclist who cut in front of cars. Ride through the red light. Weave in and out of traffic. Be safe. Only takes one error and it's all over. Can't wind back the times.

Why do you need to know this if a tour bus hit him from behind? Would we need to know this about you if a tour bus hit you from behind?
lumloy371yahooco m

Lihue, HI

#18 Sep 27, 2009
Von wrote:
Hawaii is just too small. I don't ride a bike, but I'm all for better bike lanes.
Good luck John.
No way Hawai'i is too small!!!! You want bigger? Try North America. Hawai'i is perfect size.
Problem is too many death monsters on the road, mechanized speed crushing humans, rushing around instead of using telecommuting. We have tech but don't use it. Get a clue.
lumloy371yahooco m

Lihue, HI

#19 Sep 27, 2009
Disgusted wrote:
What happened is a terrible tragedy. Pointing fingers is not going to solve the problem. It will take a combined effort to do so, and we need to start by seeing the other sides point of view. We can begin with the legislature and the city council in providing SAFE roads and streets. It should begin with looking at the roads and streets designated as bike routes. In Kaneohe, Kaneohe Bay drive is used by many cyclists and bike ride events. The area near the H-3 on/off ramp where Kaneohe Bay Drive turns and Mokapu Blvd. begins is a narrow two-lane road (one in each direction) with no shoulders and many curves that the drivers cannot see around until it reaches Yacht Club Terrace. All the members of the city council who voted for this should be voted out of office and declared incompetent. Bicycle riders should also realize that they put the vehicle drivers in a position where going around them requires the drivers to go into the on-coming lane where they may not see a large delivery truck coming until it's too late. Yeah, the driver should wait until there is a clear view. However, if they don't, they have a split second to decide whether to get hit by a large truck or swerve into the bike rider. Is it worth the risk?
Don't say bike riders "put vehicle drivers in a position". Drivers put themselves in position by driving. It is the drivers who are hitting, killing & injuring cyclists, not the other way around. A cyclist on the road does not exempt drivers from their responsibilities to themselves & other road users. "Curves that drivers cannot see around" require drivers to SLOW DOWN so they CAN HANDLE what they cannot see far ahead as it comes into view. Just common sense, the opposite of self-entitlement to consequence-free behavior.
lumloy371yahooco m

Lihue, HI

#20 Sep 27, 2009
quebert wrote:
cycling on Oahu I was struck by vehicles 4 times in about a six year period. Twice at stoplights from behind while waiting for the red light, once by a car turning left in front of me, and lastly I was t=boned by a ford f150 that was pulling out of the parking lot at the top of the hill from Kapalama gate at Pearl Harbor. I was in the crosswalk at 5 p.m. in broad daylight. The guy broke my spine at the L2 vertebrae, while I'm walking, I now have a back that fails anytime it wants to and puts my down, for no reason. My driver was never cited, and I've born all the expense and problems myself. I hope you also recover my friend, and maybe since your getting health care, you won't be left with permanent problems like me.
" ... driver was never cited." Perfect example of the CAR CULT ignorning the HUMAN scale of cycling, a trampling of human rights by imposing machine rights over them. Nearly a universal attitudinal problem in Hawai'i nei, land of Hawaiian hospitality & aloha.

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