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Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49687 Mar 30, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
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I agree that both Obama and Holder were out of line in making any comment on the situation. Neither I nor anybody else know Holder's real intent, however, he did send the DOJ officials there under what I believe to be good intent, and I guess that can be interpreted anyway you like, but it is still speculation.
It's not about the truth anymore, it's about perception. Truth is a casualty of the professional spin artists the politicians hire, on both sides. An educated voter is not what these politicians want anymore.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49688 Mar 30, 2014
Philly AG says she would have been perceived as a racist by prosecuting four black dems for taking bribes. Perception is everything.
TSF

Angier, NC

#49689 Mar 30, 2014
I guess we can never know for sure. In looking at situations like this one, where I have conflicting information , I go to probabilities for probable answers. Obama's pre verdict comments were definitely out of line. Holder's pre verdict comments were out of line. Both Obama and Holder know better. Both were clearly expressing prejudicial opinions about Zimmermans' guilt. When the DOJ's involvement in the protests came out, they claimed to be trying to prevent violence rather than trying to pressure the outcome of a trial. Had the intent of the protest involvement been expressed BEFORE they were caught, it would have been believable . Saying that AFTER they were caught and in conjunction with the pre verdict prejudicial comments does not indicate a high probability of truthfulness.
State of Florida wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that both Obama and Holder were out of line in making any comment on the situation. Neither I nor anybody else know Holder's real intent, however, he did send the DOJ officials there under what I believe to be good intent, and I guess that can be interpreted anyway you like, but it is still speculation.
Victoria

Fleetwood, NC

#49690 Mar 30, 2014
Waco 1909 wrote:
<quoted text> So you're saying the insurance companies has a choice in the matter? Well, that may be true. I wonder why they just didn't adjust their rates? Would have made it better. I'm eking out a living, with no insurance. Evey time I go to the doctor, I get socked with a hundred dollar office visit, and can't afford any blood tests or anything.
Yes, the private insurance companies have all the say in the matter. My insurance policy was grandfathered in. In other words, if there was something that the ACA required that my policy hadn't previously included, it included it and I kept my same policy.

They didn't adjust their rates because they were scammers. They were taking people's money and not providing decent coverage. Don't you remember all those stories (before the ACA) where someone would get cancer, go to their insurance, assuming they were covered, & finding out, to their shock & horror that their medical bills were not being paid by their insurance company? There were stories like that all the time....because insurance companies were screwing over their clients. That can't happen anymore. Isn't that wonderful? I can't understand why every middle class or poor person in America isn't happy as hell about the ACA. They should be.

That's why the Republicans are bitching & moaning about it. Because when people finally figure out how great it is, guess who loses? THE GOP.

I think you can get covered under the ACA's federal site. Just because some Republican governors were stupid enough not to accept the federal funds to extend the Medicaid portion of the ACA for lower income families doesn't mean you can't sign up at the Federal website.

Go here....all the answers to your questions.

https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-my-state-i...

If I were you I would go there and at least look it over and get your answers. Due to that extension the Right Wingers are whining about, if you've even STARTED the process before tomorrow's deadline you can still get it until the extension's deadline without paying a penalty.
TSF

Angier, NC

#49691 Mar 30, 2014
Without the expansion of Medicaid, the lower incomes do not qualify for the premium subsidy.
That means ACA is not affordable. That is why the Medicaid expansion was defeated. It was an attempt to hurt ACA. But the ones hurt are the persons not qualifying for insurance. They do not matter. They are pawns in the political game. Low income individuals do not have lobbyist in Raleigh handing out dollars to legislators for representation. The rich do own lobbyist and the legislators.. Shezam.--- Tax breaks for the rich, piss on everyone else.
Waco 1909 wrote:
I hope I can get the Obamacare. I'm getting older, not healthier. My friend was going to get it, but he died kind of young. He had his own business, but he was just getting by too. The politics of this is surely vicious though. They didn't expand medicaid here.
Victoria

Fleetwood, NC

#49692 Mar 30, 2014
Waco 1909 wrote:
<quoted text> It's not about the truth anymore, it's about perception. Truth is a casualty of the professional spin artists the politicians hire, on both sides. An educated voter is not what these politicians want anymore.
An educated voter is what the Democrats want. Because the more educated the voter the more likely they will vote Democratic. The GOP depends on spin and deceit to get their voters to the polls.

"Well, it happened again: As in 2008, Barack Obama won those voters with a post-graduate degree by a huge margin on Tuesday.

What's particularly striking is that President Obama won the educated vote even though these Americans tend to have higher incomes and are likely to pay higher taxes during a second Obama term. Yet that turns out to be no big deal for many post-grads who recognize that higher taxes are necessary to afford key investments and restore fiscal balance"
Victoria

Fleetwood, NC

#49693 Mar 30, 2014
TSF wrote:
I guess we can never know for sure. In looking at situations like this one, where I have conflicting information , I go to probabilities for probable answers. Obama's pre verdict comments were definitely out of line. Holder's pre verdict comments were out of line. Both Obama and Holder know better. Both were clearly expressing prejudicial opinions about Zimmermans' guilt. When the DOJ's involvement in the protests came out, they claimed to be trying to prevent violence rather than trying to pressure the outcome of a trial. Had the intent of the protest involvement been expressed BEFORE they were caught, it would have been believable . Saying that AFTER they were caught and in conjunction with the pre verdict prejudicial comments does not indicate a high probability of truthfulness.
<quoted text>
Those comments made by President Obama were made AFTER the verdict.

"Obama issued a written statement on Sunday, noting that the jury had spoken and urging calm and reflection. Despite some calls for him to speak about the case, the nation's first African-American president had made no further public comment until Friday."

I am trying to understand this concern for a guy who killed an innocent kid walking home from the store. Shouldn't your concern be about the VICTIM in this case, and not the killer? There was no confusion over the fact that Zimmerman was responsible for the death of Trayvon Martin. The only confusion lay in Florida's backwards gun laws that let people kill other people and walk away scot-free.
Victoria

Fleetwood, NC

#49694 Mar 30, 2014
TSF wrote:
Without the expansion of Medicaid, the lower incomes do not qualify for the premium subsidy.
That means ACA is not affordable. That is why the Medicaid expansion was defeated. It was an attempt to hurt ACA. But the ones hurt are the persons not qualifying for insurance. They do not matter. They are pawns in the political game. Low income individuals do not have lobbyist in Raleigh handing out dollars to legislators for representation. The rich do own lobbyist and the legislators.. Shezam.--- Tax breaks for the rich, piss on everyone else.
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What is not affordable is things remaining like they were, before the ACA. I don't appreciate my insurance premiums going up to cover people who don't bother to get their own insurance. And that is what everyone who bought insurance was doing before the ACA.

If you have noticed, health care costs are already going down. I am not saying that it won't take awhile until the system works efficiently. However, health insurance ONLY for the rich or those lucky enough to have an employer who provided them with insurance was not working out very well in this country. Health care costs were going up like crazy under the old way.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49695 Mar 30, 2014
I'm in a damn wheelchair half the time now. I can walk, but with advanced degenerative joint disease, there is a price to be paid. Using the wheelchair lets me walk when I absolutely have to, by taking pressure off my destroyed knees. The VA says that they can do two total knee replacements, but the waiting times is years. The djd is in my wrists too, my right wrist is in a brace, it's getting harder to push the wheelchair. By using people like me as political pawns, the state is keeping me from medical help.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49696 Mar 30, 2014
The VA is understaffed for what they have to do. But if it wasn't for them, I couldn't afford a wheelchair or braces.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49697 Mar 30, 2014
At least I have the VA. The people I care about have nothing.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49698 Mar 30, 2014
The Republican governor of one state went ahead and expanded medicaid. Said he wasn't gonna play politics with people.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49699 Mar 30, 2014
Victoria wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the private insurance companies have all the say in the matter. My insurance policy was grandfathered in. In other words, if there was something that the ACA required that my policy hadn't previously included, it included it and I kept my same policy.
They didn't adjust their rates because they were scammers. They were taking people's money and not providing decent coverage. Don't you remember all those stories (before the ACA) where someone would get cancer, go to their insurance, assuming they were covered, & finding out, to their shock & horror that their medical bills were not being paid by their insurance company? There were stories like that all the time....because insurance companies were screwing over their clients. That can't happen anymore. Isn't that wonderful? I can't understand why every middle class or poor person in America isn't happy as hell about the ACA. They should be.
That's why the Republicans are bitching & moaning about it. Because when people finally figure out how great it is, guess who loses? THE GOP.
I think you can get covered under the ACA's federal site. Just because some Republican governors were stupid enough not to accept the federal funds to extend the Medicaid portion of the ACA for lower income families doesn't mean you can't sign up at the Federal website.
Go here....all the answers to your questions.
https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-my-state-i...
If I were you I would go there and at least look it over and get your answers. Due to that extension the Right Wingers are whining about, if you've even STARTED the process before tomorrow's deadline you can still get it until the extension's deadline without paying a penalty.
I'm going to call.
TSF

Angier, NC

#49700 Mar 30, 2014
I am not pitching for the killer or the victim. I am pitching for the rule of law. A jury heard the testimony and ruled that there was reasonable doubt that the killing was unjustified murder. The jury did not say it was justified , the jury did not say it was unjustified, just that there was reasonable doubt. Guilty beyond reasonable doubt is the metric for a conviction.
Holder's subsequent statements promising to try bringing federal charges against Zimmerman is even more evidence of his prejudice in this case and his desire to agitate the situation rather than introduce calm..

Victoria wrote:
<quoted text>
Those comments made by President Obama were made AFTER the verdict.
"Obama issued a written statement on Sunday, noting that the jury had spoken and urging calm and reflection. Despite some calls for him to speak about the case, the nation's first African-American president had made no further public comment until Friday."
I am trying to understand this concern for a guy who killed an innocent kid walking home from the store. Shouldn't your concern be about the VICTIM in this case, and not the killer? There was no confusion over the fact that Zimmerman was responsible for the death of Trayvon Martin. The only confusion lay in Florida's backwards gun laws that let people kill other people and walk away scot-free.
TSF

Angier, NC

#49701 Mar 30, 2014
The ACA is not affordable for the very low income workers in states like NC where Medicaid was not expanded. That makes very low income persons ineligible for the premium subsidy. The republikan legislature did not expand Medicaid in order to make ACA painful as possible for as many people as possible. Their political games are more important TO THEM than the citizens they represent. Not only did they make lots of people ineligible for the premium subsidy but they also turned away thousands of jobs Medicaid expansion would have brought to the health care industry.
Victoria wrote:
<quoted text>
What is not affordable is things remaining like they were, before the ACA. I don't appreciate my insurance premiums going up to cover people who don't bother to get their own insurance. And that is what everyone who bought insurance was doing before the ACA.
If you have noticed, health care costs are already going down. I am not saying that it won't take awhile until the system works efficiently. However, health insurance ONLY for the rich or those lucky enough to have an employer who provided them with insurance was not working out very well in this country. Health care costs were going up like crazy under the old way.
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#49702 Mar 30, 2014
TSF wrote:
The ACA is not affordable for the very low income workers in states like NC where Medicaid was not expanded. That makes very low income persons ineligible for the premium subsidy. The republikan legislature did not expand Medicaid in order to make ACA painful as possible for as many people as possible. Their political games are more important TO THEM than the citizens they represent. Not only did they make lots of people ineligible for the premium subsidy but they also turned away thousands of jobs Medicaid expansion would have brought to the health care industry.
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People think VA hospital is good, but you can't go without setting up an appt. weeks in advance. You catch something, get sick, you can't just make an appt. and see a doctor, doesn't work that way. But, it's a lot better than nothing.
Victorias Peanut butter

Silver Spring, MD

#49704 Mar 30, 2014
Victoria wrote:
<quoted text>Beggars can't be choosy. A freeloading government bum like you shouldn't be complaining about their healthcare. You bitch about not being able to afford a wheelchair and crutches but you can sure afford a 75 inch LED TV, among other luxuries. The only reason you would be sponging a wheel chair off the government is that you're too lazy to walk. Your third grade reform school sentence structure is showing again as usual: People think VA hospital is good? Duh?
So people that have served this country to protect ugly, fat, uneducated vermin like you are freeloaders? How many dogs do you let loose on that crater snapper you have when you smoother it in peanut butter? I would imagine with your robust personality - that you are a three bagger to your drunk, butch girl friends. The best part of you ran down your momma's legs. Does obummer care cover your arsenal of plastic for your Grand Canyon?
Taxpayer

Rocky Mount, NC

#49705 Mar 30, 2014
TSF wrote:
Strange that the republikans are backing the leader of a communist country against the USA ., What does that make the republikan party?
In US public schools they are teaching that 2+2=4, Pythagorean theorem , quadratic equations, linear equations, statistics, etc. My question for taxpayer is exactly how he figures those subjects teach and perpetuate communism.
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Our schools are filled with sex education, political correctness, environmental extremism, global unity, diversity training (pro-gay indoctrination), and "higher-order thinking skills" boldly claiming that, in order to become a higher order thinker, one think the way we tell you or you will fail!
America's educational system began to decline with the introduction of socialism, given impetus by the increasing involvement of the federal government. Lenin said: "Communism is socialism in a hurry." Socialism, therefore, is Communism by gradualism rather than by revolution.
"Democratic socialism" became the battle cry for socializing the United States. The goal was to "permeate and penetrate," then control from within. The socialists' first target was education, and they attacked with deceitful language. There were no badges or socialist labels; followers described themselves as "liberal," "progressive," and even "moderate." Words were the weapon of choice. By changing the meanings of words, socialists concealed their true purpose.

This massive social engineering was carried out under the banners of "reform" and "social justice." They promote true democracy, humanitarianism, and, of course are "for the children." The buzzwords of socialism were and still are "social" and "democracy" ( social science, social studies and socialization of the child). John Dewey, known as "the father of modern education," was an avowed socialist and the co-author of the "Humanist Manifesto." The U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities discovered that he belonged to 15 Marxist front organizations. Dewey taught the professors who trained America's teachers. Obsessed with "the group," he said, You can't make socialists out of individualists. Children who know how to think for themselves SPOIL THE HARMONY of the collective society, which is coming, where everyone is interdependent. In this way, the subject teaches the children to think like a Communist. Simply destroy their individuality, not to help others but to insure obedience. Teaching our children not to think for themselves.
TSF Doctor

Silver Spring, MD

#49706 Mar 30, 2014
Where is the OLD SENILE Fudgeboy at. Need his blabbering, hypocritical bullsh*t to make it a day. You can tell his heavy flow day in his depends when he posts 45 times - none of them being of truth. He just blabbers as the fluid soaks his depends- you can tell the level, or flood stage as his uneducated demeanor gets grumpier. TSF = The Senile Fudgeboy
Red Square

Hendersonville, NC

#49707 Mar 30, 2014
The 11% previously uninsured figure is a few months old. The same company's new figure is now 27%, but there is no reason to believe either one is right. All that is now available are guesstimates. We'll likely have a better idea of the actual numbers in the future.

Zim was just a wannabe cop who should have minded his own business.
Just an asshole with a gun.

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