Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

[dave]

wow

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is a simple explanation of the difference;
A fruit tree bearing fruit.
A fruit tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A nut tree who never bears fruit wanting to be a fruit tree.
A nut tree hanging fruit on it's branches pretending to be a fruit tree.
Any more questions?
Smile.

Rageoholic wrote:

<quoted text>
Ya, how are you so retarded?

Even funnier?

The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' fruit trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to let nut trees be fruit trees too!

Hilarious!!!

[Marengo Jon]

old friend wrote:

Jon Jon,
You realize that responding to these just adds to their validity.
You are getting what you want.
Why the fight?
<quoted text>

You're right, we are getting what we want. According to OutQ news, and local press, a vote on SSM should come to the Illinois legislature on Valentine's Day.

How entirely appropriate. Next step, federal recognition.

[louise]

Marengo Jon wrote:

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Next step, federal recognition.

Free asseline from odumbocare?

[Not Yet Equal]

Same sex parent families are raising kids, just like opposite sex parent families. We don't treat kids of straight parents differently depending on how they came to be. Adopted kids are legally equal to kids who have biological ties to one or both parents.

Denial of equal treatment provides nothing for straight families. It only harms same sex couples and their families for no legitimate reason.

While procreation ability, intent, or desire has never been a requirement for marriage, gay married couples are raising children both biologically related and adopted.

There is no legitimate governmental interest sufficient for harming those families through denial of equal treatment as required by the 5th and 14th amendments, and promised in the founding documents.

[wake up]

Why not they have every right to be just as miserable as all of us straight people are. Marriage is not easy.

[Drinkin beer N passin gas]

Saluki Rod wrote:

I wonder how long it'll take the Neo-Nazi Far Right Christians to mobilize against this? It's just letting gays be married, what's the big freaking deal? I'm straight, and see no harm to society.

I'm a far-right Christian but haven't joined the Neo-Nazi league yet. I'm here, but I ain't kweer. I wonder how long it will take for the sub-human sodomites with their perverted anal antics to baby cry about their "rights"

[Will Money]

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The six ways homosexual activists manipulate public opinion

Thu May 31, 2012 11:23 EST
Comments (186)
Tags: homosexuality

May 31, 2012 - Anyone who is concerned about the influence of the homosexual agenda on reshaping traditional values must become intimately familiar with the major tactics that homophiles commonly employ in order to anticipate them and respond in charity and truth. Homophile strategists are very adept at manipulating public opinion with an arsenal of six tactics that are based upon deceptions and half-truths:

Exploit the “victim” status;
Use the sympathetic media;
Confuse and neutralize the churches;
Slander and stereotype Christians;
Bait and switch (hide their true nature); and
Intimidation.

One reason these tactics have worked so well is that homophile activists have succeeded in marketing a harmless and friendly image of their movement. They have lulled people into thinking that the wider society will not be adversely affected by their radical social agenda. Homosexual strategists have, in many cases, toned down their extreme rhetoric and have cloaked their agenda in soothing language. Over time, however, many have begun to think of themselves and others as “homophobes” or “haters” if they oppose any aspect of the homosexual rights agenda — or, incredibly, even if they question it in their own minds.

Generals and attorneys often wish that their opponents would write a book. Interestingly, leaders of the “homosexual rights” movement did exactly that. Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen clearly laid out this agenda in the marching orders of the movement, After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear & Hatred of Gays in the 90s.[1] This volume is an absolute treasure chest of information for those pro-family stalwarts who are actively engaged against the homosexual rights agenda.

By far the most popular homophile tactic is the claim to victim status, which is a very powerful, almost paralyzing, weapon that gives them a distinct advantage in the public square. Kirk and Madsen summarize the potent effectiveness of the victim status:

In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be portrayed as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to adopt the role of protector.… The purpose of victim imagery is to make straights feel very uncomfortable; that is, to jam with shame the self-righteous pride that would ordinarily accompany and reward their antigay belligerence, and to lay groundwork for the process of conversion by helping straights identify with gays and sympathize with their underdog status.… the public should be persuaded that gays are victims of circumstance, that they no more chose their sexual orientation than they did, say, their height, skin color, talents, or limitations.… gays should be portrayed as victims of prejudice.

Does this sound familiar? It does if one pays attention to any mainstream media coverage of these controversial issues as they play out in law and society. But the victim status requires a story to back it up. Thus, perhaps the most common lament of the garden-variety homophile revolves around the alleged “tidal wave of anti-gay” hate crimes.

[Will Money]

An analysis of FBI statistics on hate crimes committed against homosexuals during the time period 2000-2008 shows that the probability of any individual homosexual being the victim of a hate crime during his or her entire life span is slightly more than one percent.[2] Interestingly,“gays” are more likely to commit hate crimes against “straights” than “straights” are to commit hate crimes against “gays.” According to the FBI, there are 3.98 hate crimes committed by each million heterosexuals annually against homosexuals, and there are 4.44 hate crimes committed by each million homosexuals annually against heterosexuals.[3]

Violence against homosexuals by others gets all the press, but it is interesting to note that the great majority of anti-”gay” violence is committed by other “gays.” The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP) is the leading tracker of violence against “gays” in the United States. According to the NCAVP’s statistics on anti-”gay” violence, 83 percent of all violence committed against “gays” is carried out by other “gays” in domestic situations. This does not even count “gay-on-gay” violence committed outside the home.[4]

This confusion is now pervasive in society, and questioning the agenda is simply not to be tolerated – especially among America’s youth.

For example, the classical notion that universities should be “arenas for the free exchange of ideas” has been completely discarded in the United States. More than three-fourths of U.S. colleges and universities now possess codes of conduct that ban behavior and speech based upon, including many other things,“homophobia.” The danger that these codes represent to academic freedom far outweighs their usefulness. This has already been amply demonstrated, as many colleges have severely punished students for merely desiring to debate the topic of homosexuality.

The squashing of dissenting views on homosexuality in the classroom has been going on for decades now. In 1991, a student at the University of Michigan announced his intention to establish a counseling program to help homosexuals leave their lifestyle. He was dragged before a panel of university administrators, unanimously found guilty of “sexual harassment,” and was thrown out of the university.[5] In 2000, the Student Judiciary of Tufts University voted officially to “derecognize” the Tufts Christian Fellowship (TCF) club for taking into account, for purposes of selecting leaders, the beliefs of a member whose views of Scripture and homosexuality were opposed to their own.[6] The TCF was stripped of funding, not permitted to use the Tufts name, not permitted to meet in any room that required a reservation, and not allowed to advertise or announce any of their events or meetings. In 2011, a Fort Worth, Texas high school student was suspended from school for reportedly saying,“I’m a Christian, and I don’t think being gay is right,” during a class discussion.[7] And teachers don’t have it any easier. In 2010 a professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign was accused of “hate speech” and relieved of his teaching duties for teaching Catholic doctrine on homosexuality in his Introduction to Catholicism class.[8]

[Will Money]

Political science professor Jean Betheke Elshtain, while highlighting the dangers presented by codes against racism, also points out the difficulties associated with all punitive codes of this nature:“My hunch is that, over the long haul, the upshot of such endeavors [college speech codes] will not be a purified, racist-free, collective student consciousness, but a simmering backlog of resentment at being labeled as a racist, even if one has never committed a racist act or uttered a racist slur.”[9]

No one should attempt to deny homosexuals their basic human rights; which are the same basic rights that we all have as being sons and daughters of God. But it has gotten to the point where we have to fight to preserve our own basic rights — the rights to free speech, religion, assembly, and teaching our own children our values – in order to protect our own families and institutions.

Those who promote homosexuality are forcibly tearing away more and more of the rights of Christians, and the situation is rapidly deteriorating. Who could have possibly imagined just a few years ago that companies would start firing people for writing pro-family articles on their own time, or business owners would be sued for refusing to participate in homosexual union ceremonies?

[2] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) annual report entitled “Hate Crime Statistics.” Table 1,“Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders by Bias Motivation.” http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm .

[Matt Fleming]

Call me 07595 384845

[KiMare]

Not Yet Equal wrote:

Same sex parent families are raising kids, just like opposite sex parent families. We don't treat kids of straight parents differently depending on how they came to be. Adopted kids are legally equal to kids who have biological ties to one or both parents.
Denial of equal treatment provides nothing for straight families. It only harms same sex couples and their families for no legitimate reason.
While procreation ability, intent, or desire has never been a requirement for marriage, gay married couples are raising children both biologically related and adopted.
There is no legitimate governmental interest sufficient for harming those families through denial of equal treatment as required by the 5th and 14th amendments, and promised in the founding documents.

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

First you are adamant children should not be considered to equate gay couples to marriage.

Now you are arguing for children.

Which is it?

Smile.

[Brenda Lee Johnson]

Political science professor Jean Betheke Elshtain, while highlighting the dangers presented by codes against racism, also points out the difficulties associated with all punitive codes of this nature:“My hunch is that, over the long haul, the upshot of such endeavors [college speech codes] will not be a purified, racist-free, collective student consciousness, but a simmering backlog of resentment at being labeled as a racist, even if one has never committed a racist act or uttered a racist slur.”[9]

No one should attempt to deny homosexuals their basic human rights; which are the same basic rights that we all have as being sons and daughters of God. But it has gotten to the point where we have to fight to preserve our own basic rights — the rights to free speech, religion, assembly, and teaching our own children our values – in order to protect our own families and institutions.

Those who promote homosexuality are forcibly tearing away more and more of the rights of Christians, and the situation is rapidly deteriorating. Who could have possibly imagined just a few years ago that companies would start firing people for writing pro-family articles on their own time, or business owners would be sued for refusing to participate in homosexual union ceremonies?

[2] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) annual report entitled “Hate Crime Statistics.” Table 1,“Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders by Bias Motivation.” http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm .

[Brenda Lee Johnson]

(Column continues below)
In a recent correspondence, Stefanowicz shared her own experiences and her concerns drawn from discussions with other adults who were raised in homosexual households. The following aspects typify these children's experiences:
* Associating with the parent's GLBT community creates painful gender identity confusion and prevents healthy development.
* Children are "silenced and forced to tolerate hearing speech, witnessing sexual behaviors, and going places they find offensive."
* Children are saddled with "stress, depression, anxiety, suicidal tendencies, anger, sexuality confusion, and tremendous insecurity."
* During Stefanowicz's childhood, her father "traveled all over North America and to the Islands, finding ample cruising partners and locations." She said it was not safe "to bring my good-looking boyfriends" home because they could be propositioned by her father to have threesome sex with another homosexual adult.
* A number of children feel sexually abused though association with the sights of the GLBT subculture and "witnessing their parent in sexual situations and multiple relationships." She said it's common for parents to take children to gay pride events sporting offensive sexual material, discussion and behavior.
* Stefanowicz says, "Some adult children express they have been sexually abused by a parent or partner(s) who have attempted to recruit them either directly or by innuendo and by example. Pedophilia is a big part of the subcultures." Sadly, she recounts her father being sexually involved with an underage boy who later committed suicide.
* Stefanowicz has heard personal accounts from children who have contacted her. "They have been exposed to hepatitis and other pathogens because of living in close association with sexually active parents and partners. When young, dependent children share snacks, utensils, drinking glasses, use bathroom facilities and do not wash hands, touch washcloths … toothbrushes … children are at risk of becoming infected." She recounts picking up "feces-covered sheets" after one of her father's encounters and is concerned that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acknowledges the high level of disease risk associated with GLBT behaviors, yet fails to discuss infection transmission risk to children in their care.
* Stefanowicz sees firsthand the effect of hate crime laws in Canada. Predicting what is ahead for America should such legislation pass, she says, "It is deeply saddening to see how many churchgoers/conservatives/Repu blicans are in favor of hate crime (laws). Americans have no idea what hate crime really is all about."
* Her concerns are backed up by statistics. A 2007 Gallup poll indicated a majority of Americans (68 percent) support expanding hate crimes laws. According to USA Today, "Majorities of frequent churchgoers (62 percent), conservatives (57 percent), and Republicans (60 percent) also were in favor of the legislation."
Continuing, Stefanowicz says, "Unfortunately, charities that speak against homosexuality will lose their charitable status and be fined. Media will also get shut down by the FCC if anything negative is said about homosexuality, and mention is made of the health risks, research on causes, and possibility of people leaving the lifestyle. "Gay" activists will go back into web archives and make complaints about offensive articles and links. Pastors will also be sued and church denominations could lose their tax exempt status."

Do hate crime laws really protect children? No. They protect adults perpetrating acts of indecency on minors.
Hate crime laws are a child molester's dream come true.

[jimmy wells boobie man]

Brenda Lee Johnson i would lick your vag with BACON on it

[Dusty Mangina]

KiMare wrote:

<quoted text>
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Smile.

Well, to be fair, you've also blown hot air out of both ends. Pretty much the same thing.

Can you pick up some Masingill, please? Not so fresh down here.

[the fact king]

I hate lesbians they all lye and the gay guys are worse if you see their mouths moving their either sucking or lying its just that simple God will get you all

[Rainbow Kid]

the fact king wrote:

I hate lesbians they all lye and the gay guys are worse if you see their mouths moving their either sucking or lying its just that simple God will get you all

So
.
You complain about people who lie by telling lies yourself
.
What's with that?

[Dusty Mangina]

the fact king wrote:

I hate lesbians they all lye and the gay guys are worse if you see their mouths moving their either sucking or lying its just that simple God will get you all

Don't be hating on me, I'm still a virgin.

[Rainbow Kid]

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

It seems the Aids rate is going up again, whose responsible for this!
GAY MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR 79% OF NEW AIDS INFECTIONS
Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections, and MSM with a history of injection drug use (MSM-IDU) accounted for an additional 3% of new infections. That same year, young MSM accounted for 69% of new HIV infections among persons aged 13–29 and 44% of infections among all MSM. At the end of 2009, an estimated 441,669 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the US were MSM or MSM-IDU.
The Numbers
New HIV Infections2
In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of new HIV infections in the US and 79% of infections among all newly infected men. Compared with other groups, MSM accounted for the largest numbers of new HIV infections in 2009.
Among all MSM, white MSM accounted for 11,400 (39%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest number of new infections (3,400) occurred in those aged 40–49.
Among all MSM, black/African American MSM accounted for 10,800 (37%) new HIV infections in 2009. Whereas new HIV infections were relatively stable among MSM overall from 2006–2009, they increased 34% among young MSM—an increase largely due to a 48% increase among young black/African American MSM aged 13–29.
Among all MSM, Hispanic/Latino MSM accounted for 6,000 (20%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest percentage of new infections (45%) occurred in those aged 13–29.
Estimates of New HIV Infections in the US, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations
Shown here is a vertical bar chart entitled,“Estimates of New HIV Infections in the United States, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations”. White MSM = 11,400 Black MSM = 10, 800 Women = 6,000 Latino MSM = 5,400 Black Heterosexual Men =2,400 White Heterosexual Women = 1,700 Black Male IDUs = 1,700 Latina Heterosexual Women = 1,200 Black Female IDUs =940 Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.
Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.
HIV and AIDS Diagnoses3 and Deaths
In 2010, in the 46 states with long-term confidential, name-based reporting, MSM accounted for 78% of estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older, and 61% of estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.
At the end of 2009, of the estimated 784,701 persons living with an HIV diagnosis, 396,810, or 51%, were MSM. About 48% of MSM living with an HIV diagnosis were white, 30% were black/African American, and 19% were Hispanic/Latino.
In 2010, MSM accounted for 51% of estimated AIDS diagnoses among all adults and adolescents in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Of the estimated 16,796 AIDS diagnoses among MSM, 37% were in blacks/African Americans; 36% in whites; and 22% in Hispanics/Latinos.
By the end of 2009, an estimated 296,222 MSM with an AIDS diagnosis had died in the US since the beginning of the epidemic.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

Be sure to always type AIDS with big letters
.
Little letters give you AIDS and you will die