Cops: Neighbor misses dog, shoots woman

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

A woman who was chasing her dog was fatally shot by a neighbor after the dog ran through the neighbor's property, police said.

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#174
Nov 24, 2007
 
An Evil Horror wrote:
Involuntary Manslaugher and Reckless Homicide? How about First Degree Murder and a stay at the Death Row Inn.
Murder requires that the shooter intended to kill the human, that is not the case here.

First degree murder typically requires some form of planning or special circumstance, something like plotting and planning for months to kill somebody.

First degree murder doesn't fit here.
Dilbert

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#175
Nov 24, 2007
 
Keep pets in yard wrote:
Although the death is a tragedy, Grandma could have prevented this by keeping the dog on a leash or fenced yard. I don't blame the shooter! Neighbors without pets are tired to animals coming into their yard and leaving piles of dog shit!! No charges should be filed, she was only protecting her property.
Your stupid comment reflects your lack of intelligence and to comment that somone is protecting their property in this manner , just
serves as proof YOU are an idiot.
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#176
Nov 24, 2007
 
I'm glad the dog survived.

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#177
Nov 24, 2007
 
Keep pets in yard wrote:
Although the death is a tragedy, Grandma could have prevented this by keeping the dog on a leash or fenced yard. I don't blame the shooter! Neighbors without pets are tired to animals coming into their yard and leaving piles of dog shit!! No charges should be filed, she was only protecting her property.
I feel sorry for your neighbors. Dog sh*t in the yard = license to kill???

I don't own a dog, but I am NOT on your side on this. Yeah, I hate it when someone's dog craps in my yard... but it's not punishable by DEATH! Not the dogs OR the humans.

I think you need to be medicated.
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#178
Nov 24, 2007
 
amphibiousness wrote:
I'm glad the dog survived.
Had the dog not survived, it's likely that the woman would have.
Don't you think that would have been a better outcome?
An animal can be replaced; a human being can't.
Contrary to popular belief among the animal rights wackos, animals are not equal to people.
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#179
Nov 24, 2007
 
Former Democrat wrote:
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Handgun. Paragraph 6.
The INDY STAR would do well to read the news article in the Evansville Courier Press. The victim Nicole Stroud was not chasing the dog , but bent down near a hole in the fence calling the dog and was struck by a "
bizarre ricochet " from a .357 magnum hand gun. It' appears that the bulet hit th ground, bounced up and traveled underneath the fence before fatally wounding Nicole Stroud" Posey County Prosecutor Jodi Uebelhack , said". Uebelhack said she beilievs the shot was fired from a back window of the Lindauer residence. The article also quotes a neighbor saying that" he heard gunshots coming from the Lindauer resdidence several times over the past few months ". Maybe the Star should hire Gavin Lesnick as a reporter since he did a much better job of reporting ?
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#180
Nov 24, 2007
 
The Courier Journal also said:

Uebelhack said a statement given to police by Lindauer's husband, Lonnie Lindauer, suggested there was an ongoing dispute between the two neighbors over the dog. She said he told authorities the dog had previously dug up a cat that was buried in the Lindauers' backyard.

So, the dog being loose on the shooter's property was an on-going problem. Considering the fatal shot was a ricochet, my bet is the shooter was trying scare the victim into believing she was shooting at the dog. I mean, who uses a handgun to shoot a nervous little yippy dog? You can't hit a deer with one, let alone a dog the size of a healthy rat.

She was trying to scare the dog owner and it turned into a tragedy. That's called "recklessness" and it squarely fits the reckless homicide statute. It's also an activity that inherently carries a risk of serious bodily injury thus meeting the elements of involuntary manslaughter. She's got a C felony coming no matter what.

A C felony carries 2 to 8 years. Considering that this is her first criminal offense, she'll probably get the minimum. If you're sentenced to 2 years, you actually only serve 1.
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#181
Nov 24, 2007
 
Dilbert wrote:
<quoted text> Your stupid comment reflects your lack of intelligence and to comment that somone is protecting their property in this manner , just
serves as proof YOU are an idiot.
I agree...
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#182
Nov 24, 2007
 
If they were so annoyed about the dog getting under the fence, you'd think they would, I don't know, FIX the hole(s)? Problem solved.
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#183
Nov 24, 2007
 
Medea wrote:
If they were so annoyed about the dog getting under the fence, you'd think they would, I don't know, FIX the hole(s)? Problem solved.
That's about the dumbest a s s comment I've read on this thread.

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#184
Nov 24, 2007
 
Yes indeed, if I shot every dog passing through on my property I'd have a 3 story pile of dead dogs. Instead I visit with 'em, give some water and eventually they go away. So far I've encounter no vicious dogs just dogs, cats abandoned by some slug, lost, belongs to a neighbor, etc.
This type of shooting can occur when someone is focused on a target using a scope and a person or an animal steps in the line of fire the moment the trigger is squeezed.
In this tragedy, it appears some moron was in control of an open sight firearm, and they are in now in heap big trouble, plus destined for a life of regret.
Let it be a warning for the rest of you careless morons who cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, includes those who drive in the same manner, you know who you are.
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#185
Nov 24, 2007
 
To Family of the Victim, my sincere condolences. From your remarks, it appears my idea of a large, aggressive, frightening dog does not apply in this case. Another person told us it was a 17 lb beagle. You said this woman had repeatedly threatened your family.

So we get the picture of probable mental illness, possibly complicated by some real or imagined feud between neighbors... Very sad and senseless.

The only good to come out of this is that the woman will probably be diagnosed/evaluated and treated for whatever ails her, and at least will certainly be removed from the community for a good while.
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#186
Nov 24, 2007
 
Why would he shoot this poor woman just because he missed his dog? I guess dogs are truly man's best friend!
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#187
Nov 24, 2007
 
Rich from Massachusetts wrote:
This shooter is reckless and, apparently, lacking in self-control. They need to charge her with everything they can and, if convicted, give her the maximum allowable amount of prison time. People not only need to be punished for this type of "yard-rage", everybody else must see that there are very strict punishments for this type of barbaric behavior.
I believe the dog should be held responsible as an accomplice for this crime! If I were being chased by the police after running a red light and another cop ran over someone else on the way to join in the pursuit, I would be charged with the pedestrians death, right? Why should the dog not face charges as well? LOL
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#188
Nov 24, 2007
 
Mauri Rahn wrote:
She has to be the worst shot since since those cops shot it out with two brothers at point blank range, and missed all 20 plus times.
Melinda, babe, dogs have four legs, people two legs, can you not tell the difference. See you in about 20 years, moron.
Those cops were being shot at and were shooting at moving targets, while they themselves moved. I'd like to see you do any better. Don't give me this BS that "oh i'm a really good shot" unless you're taking point blank fire, from two guys, that happens in a split second, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Tim

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#189
Nov 25, 2007
 
I hope they fry that crazy woman she has wrecked
that family's life over something stupid
Tim dog lover

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#190
Nov 25, 2007
 
FRY HERRRRR
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#191
Nov 25, 2007
 
The shooter used a cannon to try to kill the dog...and killed a person.

It is at least reckless homocide.
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#192
Nov 26, 2007
 
HeadNurse wrote:
Yes, a tragedy. But we have yet to hear the shooter's side of it. Was she menaced by this dog in the past? I think we can assume it was no lapdog to be shooed away by flapping your apron at it. Too many people choose to keep large and possibly dangerous animals in busy city neighborhoods.
Or busy rural neighborhoods, where they don't always have leash laws.
Are you kidding me? The dog is a Shi-Tzu -- about the size of a large gopher! There's no way this was warranted, no matter what the dog might have done in the past.
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#193
Nov 26, 2007
 
Like the shooter missing her target,you missed the point.The case (like a homicide before it) will be investigated as an accidental homicide as opposed to a deliberate act.If you knew anything about the political farces at work in that county,you would be addressing the issue at hand as opposed to your exploitation of the "accident" as a means to assert your personal views on gun control.Its cheap & and shamelessly self centered speech on your behalf which revolves around you as opposed to the subject at hand.
Carla wrote:
Oh for God's sake, this is a perfect example of why gun control is a valid issue. My heart goes out to the family who lost this young woman. I don't understand why the shooter felt it was necessary to take aim at the dog to begin with. I get stray dogs in my yard frequently and I find yelling at them is usually sufficient to shoo them away, if I feel they need to be encouraged to move on. Such a senseless tragedy.

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