Loudon, Monroe Rarity community starts strong, but appraisal problems arise

May 15, 2010 Full story: The Knoxville News-Sentinel 24

Of all the projects connected with the Rarity brand, Rarity Bay in Loudon and Monroe counties stands out as a nationally known example of a successful luxury retirement community.

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#1 May 17, 2010
How much do those 426 homeowner in Rarity Bay have to pay each month in dues? Do they also have to pay user fees for everything? RARITY doesn't have the top heavy management system Tellico Village is saddled with. Does anyone have any idea how much they have to pay?
Jeannie Pilgrim

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#2 May 17, 2010
Rarity Bay is a gated community and I believe they pay about $400 per year.
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#3 May 17, 2010
If that is true then Tellico Village has far outpaced Rarity Bay on taxing it's members to pay to keep up with the Joneses, when apparently TV is setting the pace for everyone else to follow. The only thing is, I dont' think any other community is dumb enough to try to keep up with us Joneses because we are already in over our heads, as verified by the high percentage of dues defaults. Every time someone questions the need for bigger and more elaborate amenities, we are told we have to spend, spend spend to stay competitive. Just who are we competing with?
Dark Knight

Loudon, TN

#4 May 18, 2010
Jeannie Pilgrim wrote:
Rarity Bay is a gated community and I believe they pay about $400 per year.
I was told by a friend who lives there that it is $300 per year for POA, but the social membership requires $120 per month for ameities and eating at the club. You have to pay the $120/mo but get part back if you eat at the club, like a rebate. Rarity fees are more complicated than the Village. The Village is not a good deal either unless you own a $500,000 house on the golf course or on the lake. If you are one of those that live in a $250,000 house on an interior lot, you are getting screwed. Tat is why the lot prices have tanked to $2,500-$3,000 each, take your pick. At least 700 for sale right now. Just make me an offer, and be prepared to pay the $1,089 assessment, or be forclosed.
Jeannie Pilgrim

AOL

#5 May 18, 2010
Dark Knight wrote:
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I was told by a friend who lives there that it is $300 per year for POA, but the social membership requires $120 per month for ameities and eating at the club. You have to pay the $120/mo but get part back if you eat at the club, like a rebate. Rarity fees are more complicated than the Village. The Village is not a good deal either unless you own a $500,000 house on the golf course or on the lake. If you are one of those that live in a $250,000 house on an interior lot, you are getting screwed. Tat is why the lot prices have tanked to $2,500-$3,000 each, take your pick. At least 700 for sale right now. Just make me an offer, and be prepared to pay the $1,089 assessment, or be forclosed.
Do you mean you HAVE to pay $120 per month or you cannot eat at the club if you want to? Is that mandatory? Do you have access to the amenities (golf, clubhouse, etc.) without paying a monthly fee other then your POA assessments?
Crooked

Loudon, TN

#6 May 18, 2010
http://www.vanshaver.com/no_cuts_here.htm

Is everything in this county crooked? This is hard to believe that we are the only county no making cuts. This mentality runs through the local government and the POA.
Dark Knight

Loudon, TN

#7 May 18, 2010
Jeannie Pilgrim wrote:
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Do you mean you HAVE to pay $120 per month or you cannot eat at the club if you want to? Is that mandatory? Do you have access to the amenities (golf, clubhouse, etc.) without paying a monthly fee other then your POA assessments?
Everybody pays the $300/year POA assessment. That entitles you to nothing more than living there. If you want amenities then the social membership cost you $5,000 to buy it with and in addition to the lot. Since all lots are sold and nearly all have the social membership in the title, and if you buy there you are obligated to be a social member. It comes with the title. That requires you to pay the social membership fee, which is $120/mo at the present time (as I understand it). Part of that fee is for the club dining. The only way to get it back is to eat it, and every month. It is just like your cell phone with the 100 minutes per month. You either use them or loose them. Mike don't care, as he is out of it. He told me so himself. Go ask him if you don't believe me.
Dark Knight

Loudon, TN

#8 May 18, 2010
Crooked wrote:
http://www.vanshaver.com/no_cu ts_here.htm
Is everything in this county crooked? This is hard to believe that we are the only county no making cuts. This mentality runs through the local government and the POA.
Not so. The local government is fairly clean except for Mayor Arp. He is being investigated for colusion with Mike Ross on fixing the county assessments on Mike Ross's privite lot holdings at Rarity Bay. Mayor Arp is accused of doing this when he was County Assessor some years back. He is being accused by one of the clerks in the Assessors office. The Loudon County official are mostly hard working and honest people. I know several of them.
Crooked

Loudon, TN

#9 May 18, 2010
Is everything in this county crooked? This is hard to believe that we are the only county not making cuts. This mentality runs throughout the local government and the POA.

http://www.vanshaver.com/no_cuts_here.htm
Dark Knight

Loudon, TN

#10 May 18, 2010
Crooked wrote:
Is everything in this county crooked? This is hard to believe that we are the only county not making cuts. This mentality runs throughout the local government and the POA.
http://www.vanshaver.com/no_cuts_here.htm
Crooked is crooked. You are trying to divert the argument to another issue, namely the Loudon County school issues. We should stay focused on the POA issues at Tellico Village. If you need help with The Loudon County Schools Operating Budget and Building Programs, start another site.
The lake Queen

Englewood, TN

#11 May 19, 2010
The annual membership fee is 414 per year at Rarity Bay. That pays for general maintenance, gate house attendant & gatehouse, poa stuff, fountains ect. The social membership initiation fee is $5,000 one time but you get that back when/if you sell the home/property. The monthly fee for that is 91.50 plus a 25.00 monthly "Spend" at the club. It allows tou to do all but golf. Golf is a seperate set of fees w/ a variety of membership programs depending on how much you play golf. Rarity Bay is one of the most beautiful communities in NOT just East TN, but in the Country! I have lived there for over 12 years and would not move anywhere else. I am NOT related to Mike or ANYONE else at the Rarity Group. I simply LOVE my home, neighbors, amenities and am VERY proud to say I live in "The Bay!" I say if you don't like it, don't live here,Floridians are VERY impressed with our LOW fees both in Rarity AND Tellico Village, so it is all Relative.
Rarity Bay

Loudon, TN

#12 May 19, 2010
Lake Queen said ("The monthly fee for that is 91.50 plus a 25.00 monthly "Spend" at the club. It allows you to do all but golf.") Is it mandatory to join the social events and activities program and pay the $91.50 per month? Is the $25 monthly payment for the restaurant also mandatory? If the $25 is mandatory for the restaurant, don't you get it back if you eat there?
Stank

Franklin, TN

#13 May 19, 2010
Most people that live in these "high Society" areas have more money than sense anyway so who cares. Those of us that have lived here all our lives have to either move to a big city and work forever, then retire back here or just live in a trailer. They made the price of home high in this area.
Average Joe

Knoxville, TN

#14 May 19, 2010
Dark Knight wrote:
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Crooked is crooked. You are trying to divert the argument to another issue, namely the Loudon County school issues. We should stay focused on the POA issues at Tellico Village. If you need help with The Loudon County Schools Operating Budget and Building Programs, start another site.
I agree about starting a new thread....but can anyone explain why the BOE won't provide a copy of their budget to county commission? When you go to the county's website, there is nothing more than a letter...and this is the county's largest budget? See for yourself... http://www.loudoncounty-tn.gov/documentsAndFo...
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#15 May 19, 2010
You are wrong about high POA dues at all Fla developments. We lived in one of the Coastal communities for 8 years and our dues were never over $40 per month. We had swimming pool, exercise room, club house, tennis courts and golf course. Everything was free except golf. We paid for catered parties at least once a month and on special occasions. This was not a double wide community. Most of the homes were $250,000 and up. Why did we leave? Fla. laws are not friendly to divorced and remarried people.
7 yr resident

Loudon, TN

#16 May 19, 2010
Fla fees wrote:
You are wrong about high POA dues at all Fla developments. We lived in one of the Coastal communities for 8 years and our dues were never over $40 per month. We had swimming pool, exercise room, club house, tennis courts and golf course. Everything was free except golf. We paid for catered parties at least once a month and on special occasions. This was not a double wide community. Most of the homes were $250,000 and up. Why did we leave? Fla. laws are not friendly to divorced and remarried people.
If things are so bad here and the dues so high, why did you move from Naples?
whoda

United States

#17 May 19, 2010
sounds like tellico village is a great deal after all. i guess thats why nobody takes us seriously.

we all look pretty stupid.
whoda

Centralia, IL

#18 May 21, 2010
whoda wrote:
sounds like tellico village is a great deal after all. i guess thats why nobody takes us seriously.
we all look pretty stupid.
The real whoda says you are full of it. I'll slap tha damn taste outcha mouth if i find out who you are - posting under my name is starting to piss me off. You are either trying to become me cause you want to take credit for my posts, trying to discredit what i have said, or you are one of them light in the loafers types. It aint nothin to me to whup a man's ass. Whoda hell do you think you are?
whoda

Centralia, IL

#19 May 21, 2010
whoda wrote:
sounds like tellico village is a great deal after all. i guess thats why nobody takes us seriously.
we all look pretty stupid.
TV is NOT a great deal. STFU.
whoda

Mount Airy, MD

#20 May 22, 2010
come and get it grandpaw.

put your wife out on the street and maybe you can make enough to live in the guardshack at rarity bay. ask her if she wants to make 14 dollars the hard way. i am free all afternoon.

pinheads, losers, and freaks.

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