New Policy For West Hartford Leaf Col...

New Policy For West Hartford Leaf Collection This Fall

There are 11 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Aug 10, 2009, titled New Policy For West Hartford Leaf Collection This Fall. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

The town eliminated curbside leaf vacuuming to save $383,000 this fiscal year, so residents must now bag leaves in 30-gallon biodegradable paper bags.

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Chrissy

Windsor, CT

#1 Oct 5, 2009
I am curious to know what the fees are going to have the leaves picked up by a contractor.
Mr P

AOL

#2 Oct 5, 2009
Chrissy wrote:
I am curious to know what the fees are going to have the leaves picked up by a contractor.
Good question, as well as where are we supposed to pile them for some 5 to 6 weeks so that the contractor only has to come once. Where I live we do not have sidewalks or aprons just a black curb along the road so the contractor will need to come down the driveway some 200 feet to get to my mile high pile. I can't get a quote because there is no way to tell what the volume will be and if bad weather then no pick up.
I sure hope this new bag policy works but I'm sure it will be another mess that our Town Council decided without all the facts as usual.
By The way, I'm told our Public Works crews will be responsible for picking up these bags during this 13 week period. What were they doing before this change? Can and will they keep up? My garbage day is Friday if they can't come by for the leaf bags on my garbage day what happens for the weekend, do they just sit there getting wet and weighing twice as much?
Stay tuned for what I'm sure will be a not so pretty fall season in good old WH. I envision one heck of a mess here on the mountain if Public Works isn't prepared or the weather dosen't cooperate.
Big Jim

AOL

#3 Oct 19, 2009
Mr P wrote:
<quoted text> Good question, as well as where are we supposed to pile them for some 5 to 6 weeks so that the contractor only has to come once. Where I live we do not have sidewalks or aprons just a black curb along the road so the contractor will need to come down the driveway some 200 feet to get to my mile high pile. I can't get a quote because there is no way to tell what the volume will be and if bad weather then no pick up.
I sure hope this new bag policy works but I'm sure it will be another mess that our Town Council decided without all the facts as usual.
By The way, I'm told our Public Works crews will be responsible for picking up these bags during this 13 week period. What were they doing before this change? Can and will they keep up? My garbage day is Friday if they can't come by for the leaf bags on my garbage day what happens for the weekend, do they just sit there getting wet and weighing twice as much?
Stay tuned for what I'm sure will be a not so pretty fall season in good old WH. I envision one heck of a mess here on the mountain if Public Works isn't prepared or the weather dosen't cooperate.
Looks like someone at the Courant shares your concern.
Now that we have Town employees responsible just wait for the charge (per bag) to have them removed. More Tax's and fees to pay for all the plactic & waste along with Union pay and benefits. You just have to love these Democrats.
Oh and I think minority leader Davidoff is a Dem in disguise & needs to be replaced ASAP.
stan

West Hartford, CT

#4 Oct 25, 2009
IT IS TIME FOR A "TEA LEAF" PARTY!! OF ALL THE PLACES TO CUT SERVICES. TAXES GO UP AND WE HAVE TO PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS MORE TO GET OUR LEAVES PICKED UP??? IS ANYONE ELSE UPSET?? let me know at [email protected]
WHR

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Oct 25, 2009
Where were you when, during the heat of the budget battle, all of the critics of the "high tax increase" mentioned the leaf pickup as an area to cut.....not so smart NOW are they???
stan wrote:
IT IS TIME FOR A "TEA LEAF" PARTY!! OF ALL THE PLACES TO CUT SERVICES. TAXES GO UP AND WE HAVE TO PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS MORE TO GET OUR LEAVES PICKED UP??? IS ANYONE ELSE UPSET?? let me know at [email protected]
Big Jim

AOL

#6 Oct 26, 2009
WHR wrote:
Where were you when, during the heat of the budget battle, all of the critics of the "high tax increase" mentioned the leaf pickup as an area to cut.....not so smart NOW are they???
<quoted text>
I believe you are a bit confused WHR. Only speaking for myself & a couple neighbors & friends that are all long time WH residents, yes we were critics of the never ending large property tax increases year after year and as we know mostly to fund payroll and benefits. Please don't missunderstand we are not for any reduction in services. Changing leaf pick up from a contracted vacuum service to bag pick up by Public Works is rediculous. We had vacuum service twice during the fall period only to have it reduced to once only a couple years ago and the DEM's & our Mayor have the gall to say that it was more difficult for residents because the trees don't all drop at the same time. That's why it was done twice.
What's wrong with using existing equipment & personal that we pay dearly for to the the job as we did some years ago. I saw a large "Town" truck with the vacuum set-up recently doing exactly what we eliminated. I guess bagging only apply's to residents and not the Town.
It's hard to admit it, but what we spend on education for results that leave a lot to be desired, is a terrible shame. It appears we have more special staff positions (and growing) than we do qualified teahers.
We need change, VOTE Republican but not for Davidoff a Dem in disguise.
stan

West Hartford, CT

#7 Oct 26, 2009
Big Jim wrote:
<quoted text>I believe you are a bit confused WHR. Only speaking for myself & a couple neighbors & friends that are all long time WH residents, yes we were critics of the never ending large property tax increases year after year and as we know mostly to fund payroll and benefits. Please don't missunderstand we are not for any reduction in services. Changing leaf pick up from a contracted vacuum service to bag pick up by Public Works is rediculous. We had vacuum service twice during the fall period only to have it reduced to once only a couple years ago and the DEM's & our Mayor have the gall to say that it was more difficult for residents because the trees don't all drop at the same time. That's why it was done twice.
What's wrong with using existing equipment & personal that we pay dearly for to the the job as we did some years ago. I saw a large "Town" truck with the vacuum set-up recently doing exactly what we eliminated. I guess bagging only apply's to residents and not the Town.
It's hard to admit it, but what we spend on education for results that leave a lot to be desired, is a terrible shame. It appears we have more special staff positions (and growing) than we do qualified teahers.
We need change, VOTE Republican but not for Davidoff a Dem in disguise.
thanks jim, you expressed my feelings exactly. I just couldn't get the right words.

stan
Jake

Girard, OH

#8 Oct 27, 2009
Well, here we are into the leaf "pickup" season. It seems that they are a little lax on the pickup ALREADY!!! I put out 10 bags, stuffed appropriately and put out a day before my normal pickup. Much to my dismay the bags were not picked up as promised. When I called they stated "they must not have been put out in time"... They stated there was not a skip ticket and had no explanation for the missed pickup. That is all BS!!! All the other neighbors were picked up and now there are going to be bags in the front of my yard for a week because they do not feel the need to come get them. Way to go WH!!... oh.. Maybe my tax payment will be a little late this year.. oh wait, there is a penalty for being late on my end, but that is the tax money that pays for this ..umm.. service... Let's hope it gets better organized..
Big Jim

AOL

#9 Oct 28, 2009
Jake wrote:
Well, here we are into the leaf "pickup" season. It seems that they are a little lax on the pickup ALREADY!!! I put out 10 bags, stuffed appropriately and put out a day before my normal pickup. Much to my dismay the bags were not picked up as promised. When I called they stated "they must not have been put out in time"... They stated there was not a skip ticket and had no explanation for the missed pickup. That is all BS!!! All the other neighbors were picked up and now there are going to be bags in the front of my yard for a week because they do not feel the need to come get them. Way to go WH!!... oh.. Maybe my tax payment will be a little late this year.. oh wait, there is a penalty for being late on my end, but that is the tax money that pays for this ..umm.. service... Let's hope it gets better organized..
Jake, you are probably a nobody like most of the other homeowners in this Town. Other than in the center there is little we can do to expect our Public Works employees to be responsive when it comes to our various neighborhoods. They can mow grass, water plants (in or near the center & at parks & schools) and from time to time patch pot holes. They say their staff has been cut as it should be, when just about everything is now done by contractors. Nothing but an underhanded way of cuting services by saying they are eliminating jobs & yet payroll & benefits keeps growing. What's that all about? I think I know, it's all about the center & we residential property owners are left on our own.
Many of us built or purchased here for the uniqueness and beauty of the wooded & heavily treed sections of town, now it will fade away and I guarantee the only solution will be to just cut the trees down. Remember, this Council and Mayor even planted numerous trees (at our expense) in the new, traffic calming, center islands throughout town, WHY? Not to bright, "way to go Democrats".
DWR

United States

#10 Nov 5, 2009
stan wrote:
IT IS TIME FOR A "TEA LEAF" PARTY!! OF ALL THE PLACES TO CUT SERVICES. TAXES GO UP AND WE HAVE TO PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS MORE TO GET OUR LEAVES PICKED UP??? IS ANYONE ELSE UPSET?? let me know at [email protected]
THIS IS RIDICULOUS - OUR TAXES ARE SKY HIGH IN THIS TOWN, OUR REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE IN THE TANK, THE SERVICES KEEP GETTING CUT, WE HAVE TO PAY THESE CRIMINAL 'PROPERTY TAXES' AND NOW AS A FINAL INSULT, THEY TAKE AWAY LEAF COLLECTION TO SAVE SOME CASH!! PLEASE - IT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO LIVE HERE
Big Jim

AOL

#11 Nov 7, 2009
DWR wrote:
<quoted text>
THIS IS RIDICULOUS - OUR TAXES ARE SKY HIGH IN THIS TOWN, OUR REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE IN THE TANK, THE SERVICES KEEP GETTING CUT, WE HAVE TO PAY THESE CRIMINAL 'PROPERTY TAXES' AND NOW AS A FINAL INSULT, THEY TAKE AWAY LEAF COLLECTION TO SAVE SOME CASH!! PLEASE - IT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO LIVE HERE
I couldn't agree more, yet we continue to elect the same Democratic majority to insure we as property owners continue to pay while we stand by and witness the erosion of what others before us made great. Ponder a moment, where did what we have come from? How did we sustain it during past difficult times? Who gives these current "want to be politicians" the right to forever change what we hold so dear, OUR HISTORY?
Public Works has a great staff many who I have met, unfortunately they are not expected to do much and are grossley missmanaged and have been for quite some time. Put them back to work for the property owners as well as the schools, parks, and other Town domains.

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