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Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#153250 Aug 5, 2012
ELH wrote:
<quoted text>
Who aside from the "professor" and "this guy", the thread assholes or you ever said that homosexuals don't "control their sexual appetites"?
I won't even bother to ask WTF you comment has to do with Mona's post since your posts are always non responsive, but what do you base this OPINION of your on?
ELH.

Yes. I agree. Before the corrupt politicians and the high paid agenda driven Government judges began pandering to the tiny Homosexual community - and the lesbians - our Homosexual friends had enough self-respect to keep their sexual proclivities "in the closet".*(so to speak)* In fact, in olden times I never even saw non-Homosexual parades.

Ronald

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153251 Aug 5, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
Why Are You Still Supporting Gay Adoption?
Now that the APA has revised its opinion on sexual orientation -- to writ, they don't know for certain what causes it, why are you still supporting gay adoption?
See below the most recent APA revision. And I'll be the first to say, you can't be blamed for how the LGBT scammed you on the issue, but now that you know you've been scammed isn't it time to start thinking about the kids whose lives you put in danger?
Mind you, gays are probably no more prone to pedophilia than anyone else and it's a low and hateful thing to suggest otherwise. But isn't this a separate question? Isn't the primary issue here erring on the side of caution?
Basically, the APA has rejected all those lesbian-authored studies that held gay parents are just as good as straight parents. The APA opinion below clearly implies this.
If the APA gave the green light to gay adoption before they're now giving it a red light.
Why then are you still for gay adoption?
And finally, weren't you warned about this? Weren't you told you were acting in a foolish and irresponsible manner when you signed-on for gay adoption?
Weren't you told to curb your enthusiasm -- that your rush to be so got blam politically correct would come back to bite you on the ass?
<quoted text>
So on the link you provided you said they are giving the red light on gay adoption?
This is what The APA says "In summary, social science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents—concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people—are unfounded. Overall, the research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being."

So The APA says concerns are unfounded and research indicates the children of lesbain or gay parents do not differ markedly from children of heterosexual.

So... where did you get the red light comment from?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153252 Aug 5, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
"Silly fundies."
-Idiots with no real arguments, scream "fundies"
"Prove it IS a choice."
-LOL Really? So 2 + 2 = 4 is a CHOICE now? I take it the Earth chose to be sphere too, since it's based on fact & not feelings...LOL You queers have very queer logic...ROFL
"The party making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof."
-CORRECTION: The party making the claim is responsible for the burden of TRUTH.
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation."
-Ever wondered why? I know. It's because perverts are constantly changing their sexual orientation. It's pointless counting the # of queers in a city when some of them quit being queers.
"Spit in the face of EVERY legitimate medical and psychological and scientific professional organization. Go ahead."
-From what I read, the homosexual lifestyle decreases the lifespan of people to 30 yrs. And many are at higher risks at contacting AIDS & other STDs, & I got all this information from medical & psychological sites.
"Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors."
-LOL Really? So being raped, raised with a mother AND father, being abused by a partner doesn't make resort to homosexuality?---which by the way are all SOCIAL, HORMONAL, & DEVELOPMENTAL influences. What about Planned Parenthood talking to children about the ways queers have sex? And some of these kids are as young as 5 yrs old! Also why are queers pushing for lesbian acceptance, it seems to be something common among teenage girls? Speaking of teens, why are queers pushing their queer agenda onto girls? Sounds almost like homosexuality is a LEARNT behavior.
"Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles"
-Because they DO, moron.
"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
-LOL So teaching teenagers (who btw are still in the process of finding their identities & places in life) about queerism doesn't or won't confuse them? LOL COOL STORY BRO. It clearly is a choice.
"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."

-Many homosexuals who were raped & abused as children would disagree with you.
So why is it people need proof that it is a choice in order to believe it is or isnt?
But when someone asks for proof of God or Jesus and they can not produce it they say it is Faith and you do not need proof?
thisGuy

Killeen, TX

#153253 Aug 5, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Psst, ELH is a woman, and drop dead gorgeous at that. The funny thing is you cant see her inner beauty.
In the words of Austin Powers, "That's a man, baby"

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153254 Aug 5, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, that is fair. I asked my question, go ahead and ask yours.
I did... and to answer the question Pro Choice is just that choice being able to make a decision and not be told what to do.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#153255 Aug 5, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
The APA's position on why or what causes one's sexual orientation is IRRELEVANT to one's ability to be a good parent.......hell, straights who have children time and again prove that just because one can have a natural child, doesn't necessarily mean they should!!!!

The APA hasn't revised anything by the way.......they have always stated that no one truly knows why some people are Gay or Lesbian, while some are straight.........they have also stated that one's sexual orientation is a complex matter.

Now, you can continue to post your lil rants, but all you prove is how much of a hateful person you are........especially because you have issues with your own identity......seek help, it might help you not to be so hateful!!!
thisGuy

Killeen, TX

#153256 Aug 5, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
<quoted text>
So why is it people need proof that it is a choice in order to believe it is or isnt?
But when someone asks for proof of God or Jesus and they can not produce it they say it is Faith and you do not need proof?
"So why is it people need proof that it is a choice in order to believe it is or isnt?"
-No proof = no evidence. If we didn't have proof for the things we analysis, measure, & observe, then we would still be in the stone age. If we didn't have anything to prove, then we wouldn't need to rely on experiments, data, & measurements. If you have a hard time understanding any of this, then take a science class during your time.

"But when someone asks for proof of God or Jesus and they can not produce it they say it is Faith and you do not need proof?"
-LOL "Faith"? Faith is a personal belief. We can't prove there is a God or Jesus because we don't have the technology. And just because there is no physical proof of something doesn't always mean it doesn't exist. Remember when everyone thought the earth was flat? We weren't able to prove it wasn't until we started taking people up into space. Also, if atoms are neither created nor destroyed, then where did they come from? They obviously came from somewhere since they do exist. For all we know, a supreme being may have been responsible for the creation of the multiverse. Why is it hauntings occur & how? There are many questions in science that we can't explain.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#153257 Aug 5, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
<quoted text>
So why is it people need proof that it is a choice in order to believe it is or isnt?
But when someone asks for proof of God or Jesus and they can not produce it they say it is Faith and you do not need proof?
You catch on quickly.......lol!!!

Basically a person's sexual orientation is NOT a choice, but who they actually opt to be intimate with is........and that is just as true for heterosexuals as it is for Gays and Lesbians!!!
ELH

Portland, OR

#153258 Aug 6, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
So... where did you get the red light comment from?
He pulled it out of the vast "data base" he keeps up his azz.

Sometimes he stores his "overflow data" ups "this guy's" ass but he does it in the most respectful/heterosexual way imaginable. It's not sexual at all.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Shasta Lake, CA

#153259 Aug 6, 2012
ELH wrote:
<quoted text>I guess that in the future you need to outline the acceptable response parameters in you posts. Also, unclenching your rectal sphincter once in a while and relaxing enough to get a JOKE might be a good ideal too. As an added benefit, it will also reduce your blood pressure.
I did not know you see homosexuals as a "JOKE"!

How sad...
ELH

Portland, OR

#153260 Aug 6, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
"Silly fundies."
-Idiots with no real arguments, scream "fundies"
"Prove it IS a choice."
-LOL Really? So 2 + 2 = 4 is a CHOICE now? I take it the Earth chose to be sphere too, since it's based on fact & not feelings...LOL You queers have very queer logic...ROFL
"The party making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof."
-CORRECTION: The party making the claim is responsible for the burden of TRUTH.
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation."
-Ever wondered why? I know. It's because perverts are constantly changing their sexual orientation. It's pointless counting the # of queers in a city when some of them quit being queers.
"Spit in the face of EVERY legitimate medical and psychological and scientific professional organization. Go ahead."
-From what I read, the homosexual lifestyle decreases the lifespan of people to 30 yrs. And many are at higher risks at contacting AIDS & other STDs, & I got all this information from medical & psychological sites.
"Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors."
-LOL Really? So being raped, raised with a mother AND father, being abused by a partner doesn't make resort to homosexuality?---which by the way are all SOCIAL, HORMONAL, & DEVELOPMENTAL influences. What about Planned Parenthood talking to children about the ways queers have sex? And some of these kids are as young as 5 yrs old! Also why are queers pushing for lesbian acceptance, it seems to be something common among teenage girls? Speaking of teens, why are queers pushing their queer agenda onto girls? Sounds almost like homosexuality is a LEARNT behavior.
"Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles"
-Because they DO, moron.
"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
-LOL So teaching teenagers (who btw are still in the process of finding their identities & places in life) about queerism doesn't or won't confuse them? LOL COOL STORY BRO. It clearly is a choice.
"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
-Many homosexuals who were raped & abused as children would disagree with you.
WTF is this incomprehensible pile of shit? Are you trying to COMMUNICATE something or did this message post accidentally while you where you cleaning you keyboard?

Oh for frucks sake little man! Can you PLEASE ask your grand kids to teach you how to use the QUOTE feature?
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Shasta Lake, CA

#153261 Aug 6, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
<quoted text>I did... and to answer the question Pro Choice is just that choice being able to make a decision and not be told what to do.
Pro Choice, I get it!

Just like,

Pro Choice to own guns.
Pro Choice of Prayer in School.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Shasta Lake, CA

#153262 Aug 6, 2012
ELH wrote:
<quoted text>WTF is this incomprehensible pile of shit? Are you trying to COMMUNICATE something or did this message post accidentally while you where you cleaning you keyboard?

Oh for frucks sake little man! Can you PLEASE ask your grand kids to teach you how to use the QUOTE feature?
This is one of your jokes also, right?
ELH

Portland, OR

#153263 Aug 6, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not know you see homosexuals as a "JOKE"!
.
No, but I do think that ham sandwich eating fundie hypocrites are pretty flucking hilarious.

Apparently, in addition to unclenching your azz, you also need to take a reading comprehension class.
ELH

Portland, OR

#153264 Aug 6, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
This is one of your jokes also, right?
No. I do try to post my responses appropriate to the intellectual level of the post I am responding too. In the case of "this guy" I have learned to dumb my comments down to just above grunting as he is an absolute moron.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Shasta Lake, CA

#153265 Aug 6, 2012
ELH wrote:
<quoted text>No, but I do think that ham sandwich eating fundie hypocrites are pretty flucking hilarious.

Apparently, in addition to unclenching your azz, you also need to take a reading comprehension class.
This is a joke to, right?
ELH

Portland, OR

#153266 Aug 6, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a joke to, right?
The same tired ass attempt at a joke THREE TIMES? Seriously? BTW, it's "too" not "to" and you REALLY need to do something about that stick up you ass ASAP.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153267 Aug 6, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>"So why is it people need proof that it is a choice in order to believe it is or isnt?"
-No proof = no evidence. If we didn't have proof for the things we analysis, measure, & observe, then we would still be in the stone age. If we didn't have anything to prove, then we wouldn't need to rely on experiments, data, & measurements. If you have a hard time understanding any of this, then take a science class during your time.

"But when someone asks for proof of God or Jesus and they can not produce it they say it is Faith and you do not need proof?"
-LOL "Faith"? Faith is a personal belief. We can't prove there is a God or Jesus because we don't have the technology. And just because there is no physical proof of something doesn't always mean it doesn't exist. Remember when everyone thought the earth was flat? We weren't able to prove it wasn't until we started taking people up into space. Also, if atoms are neither created nor destroyed, then where did they come from? They obviously came from somewhere since they do exist. For all we know, a supreme being may have been responsible for the creation of the multiverse. Why is it hauntings occur & how? There are many questions in science that we can't explain.
exactly and that is why try can't prove it isn't a choice because we don't have technology yet. See we are agreeing on something

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153269 Aug 6, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Pro Choice, I get it!
Just like,
Pro Choice to own guns.
Pro Choice of Prayer in School.
I live in Texas of course I am all for owning guns right?! Well actually I am.
No to the prayer in school. You can choose to have a silent prayer but you cant make everyone else be there and participate. if they do not participate they get scolded or told they are going to hell becuase they are not praying and proving what a good Christian they are for everyone to see.
Religion is a choice and believing is a choice but Prayer in Public Schools should not happen. Public schools are funded by tax dollars so schools can not have any role in promoting any religion with in its walls.
Tiny Dancer Rahm

Justice, IL

#153271 Aug 6, 2012
ELH wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you a virgin or a eunice?
The others were too nice to say anything, but "eunice?" Really?

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