Third Hate Attack On McMinnville Man's Home

There has been a third attack against the home of a Warren County man. This time, a statewide gay-lesbian organization is calling for the state's top law enforcement agency to step in. via WKRN-TV Nashville

[Julie]

I hope Neal finds out who did this to him and his partner. Neal, if you read this just know that I am a part of your community, I am a gay woman, and I hope we can see some changes in Warren County and that people around here would open their eyes and see that we are human beings and we deserve to be treated with the respect and compassion of anyone, being gay is not a sin, a crime, or wrong.
These people who are doing these hate crimes are the ones who are sinners, and wrong. I bet they go down to the good ole baptist church too!
Makes me sick!

[LGD]

You are correct in that all people need to be treated with respect and compassion, I couldn't agree more. However, please read a Bible, the lifestyle you have chosen is a sin, not for me to judge but in the eyes of God. God Bless you.

[Julie]

oh please, have you read what it says about divorce? Check the court house and tell them to stop giving divorces for any reason other than adultry, because they are all going to hell if they remarry. If you can't give another reason other than the bible then I don't want to hear it. I don't see you talking about those who vandalized him and how they broke the law of the land by doing what they did and how they are going to hell and need to read the 'bible' either. Geeze....get a clue.

[LGD]

It appears that the only part you read of what I wrote was the last sentence. I agree with you 100% that any one who would do what they did to anyone regardless of their lifestyle has serious problems. There is no getting around that. It's pretty bad when you agree with someone and they still get offended. Like I said, I'm not judging anyone. Sounds like you are.

[THEAprof]

Read the bible...studied it. Don't believe a word of it. However, it probably is what motivates the vandals who are harrassing this gay couple; they mistakenly believe that "god" is on their side.

By the way, you might try reading a science text; sexual orientation is NOT "chosen" nor is it a "lifestyle."

LGD wrote:

You are correct in that all people need to be treated with respect and compassion, I couldn't agree more. However, please read a Bible, the lifestyle you have chosen is a sin, not for me to judge but in the eyes of God. God Bless you.

[Dawn30]

Julie wrote:

oh please, have you read what it says about divorce? Check the court house and tell them to stop giving divorces for any reason other than adultry, because they are all going to hell if they remarry. If you can't give another reason other than the bible then I don't want to hear it. I don't see you talking about those who vandalized him and how they broke the law of the land by doing what they did and how they are going to hell and need to read the 'bible' either. Geeze....get a clue.

I agree with you Julie. I feel bad for this guy and his partner. It seems everyone throws the book at us gay and lesbians and yet when mentioning divorce no one uses the Bible in the name of God and call them sinners. They only pick certain parts out to condemn us. It does get old awful fast. My prayers are with this couple.

[Hill_Bill_E]

Julie wrote:

I bet they go down to the good ole baptist church too!
Makes me sick!

Nice spate of reverse bigotry.

[Hill_Bill_E]

Julie wrote:

oh please, have you read what it says about divorce? Check the court house and tell them to stop giving divorces for any reason other than adultry, because they are all going to hell if they remarry. If you can't give another reason other than the bible then I don't want to hear it. I don't see you talking about those who vandalized him and how they broke the law of the land by doing what they did and how they are going to hell and need to read the 'bible' either. Geeze....get a clue.

Judgement Day will be upon them too.

God gives us choices and blessed us with critical thinking and FREE WILL. When you rely only on your senses perceive and do not aknowledge from where it came, you too are being deceived. Just because you 'feel' drawn to something does not automatically entitle you to do it. Do you act on every whim? Can you not use your rational skills to keep your emotions in check?

The non-biblical based argument against the GAY CHOICE even appeases the Darwinian devotees.

Do you admit there is likely a 'hell'? Or are you borrowing a term you only think is reserved for the simple minded dolts you try to paint us as? If you believe it exists, then how can you stay comfortable living with a ticking time bomb?

If you refute hell and conversely God and Heaven, then you should be quite comfortable. I won't waste anymore of my time with you.

I do not advocate violence upon gays. Glaring looks, whispers about you, and sometimes just out and out laughing is MY freedom of expression, however.

What these co-habitants do in Papaw's old farm house is their business. Vandalism is not a hate crime, yet.

Taking it to the streets to politicize your taudry plight in order to establish LEGAL RIGHTS as a new class of protected minority is offensive and clearly over the line. Painting a pink triangled bullseye on your chest just begs for it.

That's when charming ppl like me step in to remind you all how sick and depraved your ORIENTATION truly is. Is not a NORMAL thing to be.

If you want to co-habitate and love the bejeebies out of each other till the end of time... I DO NOT CARE. Keep it at your house and retreat from your drive to equalize your lifestyle to mine.

Find a closet... any closet... and get back in. Talk to the other skeletons you've been trying to bury and I hope things work out for ya.

[Hill_Bill_E]

THEAprof wrote:

Read the bible...studied it. Don't believe a word of it. However, it probably is what motivates the vandals who are harrassing this gay couple; they mistakenly believe that "god" is on their side.
By the way, you might try reading a science text; sexual orientation is NOT "chosen" nor is it a "lifestyle."
<quoted text>

How do you probably know the vandals were motivated by God?

Do you know for sure God is NOT on their side?

You admit you don't believe a single word in the Bible. Are you a confirmed atheist?

Sexual orientation is a noun. How one allows him or herself to BECOME oriented this way is the crux of the matter.

[THEAprof]

1) Because most homophobes justify their attitudes and actions through their interpretation of the bible. An interesting article in Vanity Fair a few years ago reported interviews with a number of young men in Texas prisons for hate crimes (murder) against gay men; each and every one of them argued that what they did was justified because of what they heard their preachers say about homosexuals.

2) Because no supreme being would ever advocate violence and cruelty.

3) LOL...your question just goes to show how so many christians have such a narrow view of the world! There are MANY religions other than christianity. Not believing in the bible does not automatically make me an athiest. I am, however, an agnostic.

4) No one "allows" himself or herself to become gay or straight. ALL scientific research indicates that sexual orientation is NOT chosen; it is an innate, immutable human trait.

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
How do you probably know the vandals were motivated by God?
Do you know for sure God is NOT on their side?
You admit you don't believe a single word in the Bible. Are you a confirmed atheist?
Sexual orientation is a noun. How one allows him or herself to BECOME oriented this way is the crux of the matter.

[Hill_Bill_E]

You are not born that way either.

Every species on Earth is born to do at least one simple act... reproduce.

Well, there are asexual organisms, but unless you can lop off an arm and plant it in the dirt and show me another clone of you growing from it, you're excluded.

Your 'feeling' begets the 'choice' and the 'choice' begets you the 'consequences'

When you don't like the consequences you seek to free our mesolithic minds and feed us a line of garbage about how everyone is OK? I have to pull the emergency brake handle and slow this train down.

You're not OK. You could be if you work at it and if worse comes to worse... go celebant.

No more cirque de soleil bars, no more aggregious pride marches, no more frivolous lawsuits.

You can still be a productive member of society.

You can also be as queer as queer can be... at YOUR house.

[THEAprof]

NO, you don't advocate "violence" -- you just advocate scorn, ridicule, gossip, and hate. How very "christian" of you! It is no wonder so many thinking people reject your religion.

You also blame the victim. How dare anyone live their lives according to their own beliefs and not yours! You know, it is only a matter a time before one of the gay people at whom you laugh and/or stare is going to confront you and give you a taste of your medicine. I have a good idea of how you'd react. A few years ago, I was walking in the mall with my then boyfriend. A teenaged boy walked by and muttered "fags." My boyfriend immediately turned to him and demanded that he repeat what he had said. The kid got all embarrassed and mumbled that he didn't say anything. My boyfriend kept asking him, and the kid kept saying he didn't say anything. Finally my boyfriend said "I didn't think you'd said anything" and we walked off. A few years later, I was walking across the parking lot of a local discount store when a I heard someone yell "faggot" at me. I turned around and saw a pick-up (of course) full of pimply teenaged boys. The idea that I would care what they called me seemed so ridiculous to me that I simply laughed in their faces, and they drove off. In other words, most homophobes -- like many bullies -- are really cowards at heart.

Vandalism IS a hate crime, when the motivation for the crime is the property owner's membership in a protected class.

You are about as charming as yesterday's roadkill. Glare all you want; laugh all you wish. The GLBT community is NOT going back into the closet just to please you and your ilk. Get used to it.

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
I do not advocate violence upon gays. Glaring looks, whispers about you, and sometimes just out and out laughing is MY freedom of expression, however.
What these co-habitants do in Papaw's old farm house is their business. Vandalism is not a hate crime, yet.
Taking it to the streets to politicize your taudry plight in order to establish LEGAL RIGHTS as a new class of protected minority is offensive and clearly over the line. Painting a pink triangled bullseye on your chest just begs for it.
That's when charming ppl like me step in to remind you all how sick and depraved your ORIENTATION truly is. Is not a NORMAL thing to be.
If you want to co-habitate and love the bejeebies out of each other till the end of time... I DO NOT CARE. Keep it at your house and retreat from your drive to equalize your lifestyle to mine.
Find a closet... any closet... and get back in. Talk to the other skeletons you've been trying to bury and I hope things work out for ya.

[Hill_Bill_E]

THEAprof wrote:

1) Because most homophobes justify their attitudes and actions through their interpretation of the bible. An interesting article in Vanity Fair a few years ago reported interviews with a number of young men in Texas prisons for hate crimes (murder) against gay men; each and every one of them argued that what they did was justified because of what they heard their preachers say about homosexuals.
2) Because no supreme being would ever advocate violence and cruelty.
3) LOL...your question just goes to show how so many christians have such a narrow view of the world! There are MANY religions other than christianity. Not believing in the bible does not automatically make me an athiest. I am, however, an agnostic.
4) No one "allows" himself or herself to become gay or straight. ALL scientific research indicates that sexual orientation is NOT chosen; it is an innate, immutable human trait.
<quoted text>

Agnostic... BIIIIIG distinction. You must be bi-sexual too. Just don't know which way to go, huh? Maybe this, maybe that. Maybe you'll just ride the free falling elevator till just before it hits the basement, jump off, and be OK right before the end. Nice job of contingency planning.

God (my God) has destroyed the earth's inhabitants save Noah at least once. Cities have been crushed and burned by his command. Soddom and Gommorah? Do you remember reading that section or did you just flip through and look at the pictures only?

And interviews with murder convicts... a wholesome bunch of fellas. They'd never make up any BS mugging for the camera.

[strawberries]

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
Judgement Day will be upon them too.
God gives us choices and blessed us with critical thinking and FREE WILL. When you rely only on your senses perceive and do not aknowledge from where it came, you too are being deceived. Just because you 'feel' drawn to something does not automatically entitle you to do it. Do you act on every whim? Can you not use your rational skills to keep your emotions in check?
The non-biblical based argument against the GAY CHOICE even appeases the Darwinian devotees.
Do you admit there is likely a 'hell'? Or are you borrowing a term you only think is reserved for the simple minded dolts you try to paint us as? If you believe it exists, then how can you stay comfortable living with a ticking time bomb?
If you refute hell and conversely God and Heaven, then you should be quite comfortable. I won't waste anymore of my time with you.
I do not advocate violence upon gays. Glaring looks, whispers about you, and sometimes just out and out laughing is MY freedom of expression, however.
What these co-habitants do in Papaw's old farm house is their business. Vandalism is not a hate crime, yet.
Taking it to the streets to politicize your taudry plight in order to establish LEGAL RIGHTS as a new class of protected minority is offensive and clearly over the line. Painting a pink triangled bullseye on your chest just begs for it.
That's when charming ppl like me step in to remind you all how sick and depraved your ORIENTATION truly is. Is not a NORMAL thing to be.
If you want to co-habitate and love the bejeebies out of each other till the end of time... I DO NOT CARE. Keep it at your house and retreat from your drive to equalize your lifestyle to mine.
Find a closet... any closet... and get back in. Talk to the other skeletons you've been trying to bury and I hope things work out for ya.

Do you just copy and paste all this sh!te into every single thread on gays?? Your rubbish about going back into the closet is tiresome to read again and again.....

[strawberries]

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
God (my God) has destroyed the earth's inhabitants save Noah at least once. Cities have been crushed and burned by his command. Soddom and Gommorah? Do you remember reading that section or did you just flip through and look at the pictures only?

Fairy tales. That's all those are. Mythological tales as factual as the ones about giants, and trolls, and goddesses flying through the sky.....

[Hill_Bill_E]

THEAprof wrote:

NO, you don't advocate "violence" -- you just advocate scorn, ridicule, gossip, and hate. How very "christian" of you! It is no wonder so many thinking people reject your religion.
You also blame the victim. How dare anyone live their lives according to their own beliefs and not yours! You know, it is only a matter a time before one of the gay people at whom you laugh and/or stare is going to confront you and give you a taste of your medicine. I have a good idea of how you'd react. A few years ago, I was walking in the mall with my then boyfriend. A teenaged boy walked by and muttered "fags." My boyfriend immediately turned to him and demanded that he repeat what he had said. The kid got all embarrassed and mumbled that he didn't say anything. My boyfriend kept asking him, and the kid kept saying he didn't say anything. Finally my boyfriend said "I didn't think you'd said anything" and we walked off. A few years later, I was walking across the parking lot of a local discount store when a I heard someone yell "faggot" at me. I turned around and saw a pick-up (of course) full of pimply teenaged boys. The idea that I would care what they called me seemed so ridiculous to me that I simply laughed in their faces, and they drove off. In other words, most homophobes -- like many bullies -- are really cowards at heart.
Vandalism IS a hate crime, when the motivation for the crime is the property owner's membership in a protected class.
You are about as charming as yesterday's roadkill. Glare all you want; laugh all you wish. The GLBT community is NOT going back into the closet just to please you and your ilk. Get used to it.
<quoted text>

Since you're an admitted 'non-believer' this argument WILL NOT be permitted to allow you to hold me to my standard that you do not participate.

I however have the same inalienable rights as you do to FREE SPEECH. I will glare, and mutter, and point, and anything else I deem appropriate short of laying a finger on you. WHY?

Because the angrier I can make you, the better. You and the other cupcakes you cuddle with should never feel totally at ease. The innuendos will never cease. I hope you have a tormented life and die in a dumpster outside the bath house you cruise to meet fresh meat.

So back off from arming youself with MY Jesus. You've lost him in the fog of your agnostic, perversion first lifestyle. He's over here in plain view.

You and your boyfriend will be stared at now as always. It's just like watching the clowns pile out of the mini. You're THAT obvious.

Come on over and tell me in my face to stop what I'm doing. I've lost one fist fight my entire life. And I don't just put you down. You'll get K T F O

Roadkill is good eatin'. Won't go peacably back to the closet? Get used to it? Yeah sure. You convinced me.

[Hill_Bill_E]

strawberries wrote:

<quoted text>
Do you just copy and paste all this sh!te into every single thread on gays?? Your rubbish about going back into the closet is tiresome to read again and again.....

Sure it's CTRL-C and then CTRL-V

Everyone of the other thread's mongrels shut up. I'm ISO a new challenge.

Did you follow me here or do you hang out at the dumster with THEAprof too?

[Disgusted American]

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
Judgement Day will be upon them too.
God gives us choices and blessed us with critical thinking and FREE WILL. When you rely only on your senses perceive and do not aknowledge from where it came, you too are being deceived. Just because you 'feel' drawn to something does not automatically entitle you to do it. Do you act on every whim? Can you not use your rational skills to keep your emotions in check?
The non-biblical based argument against the GAY CHOICE even appeases the Darwinian devotees.
Do you admit there is likely a 'hell'? Or are you borrowing a term you only think is reserved for the simple minded dolts you try to paint us as? If you believe it exists, then how can you stay comfortable living with a ticking time bomb?
If you refute hell and conversely God and Heaven, then you should be quite comfortable. I won't waste anymore of my time with you.
I do not advocate violence upon gays. Glaring looks, whispers about you, and sometimes just out and out laughing is MY freedom of expression, however.
What these co-habitants do in Papaw's old farm house is their business. Vandalism is not a hate crime, yet.
Taking it to the streets to politicize your taudry plight in order to establish LEGAL RIGHTS as a new class of protected minority is offensive and clearly over the line. Painting a pink triangled bullseye on your chest just begs for it.
That's when charming ppl like me step in to remind you all how sick and depraved your ORIENTATION truly is. Is not a NORMAL thing to be.
If you want to co-habitate and love the bejeebies out of each other till the end of time... I DO NOT CARE. Keep it at your house and retreat from your drive to equalize your lifestyle to mine.
Find a closet... any closet... and get back in. Talk to the other skeletons you've been trying to bury and I hope things work out for ya.

Boy take that redneck argument back 45yrs - and change the word to blacks/negros etc...."boy them thar blacks are Uppity"...Trying to be the same/equal as US whites....right! Figures TN, dumbf..kistan of America next to Kansas!

[Hill_Bill_E]

strawberries wrote:

<quoted text>
Fairy tales. That's all those are. Mythological tales as factual as the ones about giants, and trolls, and goddesses flying through the sky.....

HE countered with a loving and peacable God wouldn't allow this 'evil'

I am allowed to reply to his remarks aren't I?

OR ARE YOU REPRESSING MY SPEECH ?

(sniff) Nobody understands me...boo hooo hoooooooo

[strawberries]

Hill_Bill_E wrote:

<quoted text>
Since you're an admitted 'non-believer' this argument WILL NOT be permitted to allow you to hold me to my standard that you do not participate.
I however have the same inalienable rights as you do to FREE SPEECH. I will glare, and mutter, and point, and anything else I deem appropriate short of laying a finger on you. WHY?
Because the angrier I can make you, the better. You and the other cupcakes you cuddle with should never feel totally at ease. The innuendos will never cease. I hope you have a tormented life and die in a dumpster outside the bath house you cruise to meet fresh meat.
So back off from arming youself with MY Jesus. You've lost him in the fog of your agnostic, perversion first lifestyle. He's over here in plain view.
You and your boyfriend will be stared at now as always. It's just like watching the clowns pile out of the mini. You're THAT obvious.
Come on over and tell me in my face to stop what I'm doing. I've lost one fist fight my entire life. And I don't just put you down. You'll get K T F O
Roadkill is good eatin'. Won't go peacably back to the closet? Get used to it? Yeah sure. You convinced me.

You sound like a miserably unhappy person. Try some counselling. There is a cure for fundies.