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[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>Name a case where that doesn't work?

Suppose you work for a large "corporation" or any place that has alot of "bosses" beyond your immediate supervisor. Your immediate supervisor might like you, but he doesn't have the final say in anything.

Now suppose you are nearing retirement age and will soon be eligible to receive full pension and benefits, but the people "at the top," IF they are unscrupulous, decide they want to save a buck anywhere they can. They may not have ever even met the employee, but getting rid of that person would be one way to avoid a big expense.

They could order that immediate supervisor to fire that senior person,(for any reason imaginable)..... couldn't they?

Sure, that person could hire a lawyer, but what would be the cost of that? This is about the only reason I can see where union representation would be beneficial.

[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>Suppose you woke up from your dream and went to work in the real world. You don't know anybody that has happpened to. If a company really wants to fire you they can, union or not.

Actually, I DO know someone that happened to. Six months from eligibility.

Like I said, sometimes the people making the decisions do not even know the employees. Good workers or not, the bottom line is the savings.

[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>I call B.S. That could only happen legally if the employee merits termination and you know it. You heard his side of the story but not the companies. Admitt it.

You need to come out of your cavern. If there is a group of people... a powerful group of people....who make all the decisions regarding how money is spent, they can tell the supervisor to get rid of anyone they want. What they consider "meritting termination" could be far different than what the boss, or you, consider meritting termination. What someone has done for 29 1/2 years on the job, could all of the sudden be against policy.

"That could only happen legally if the employee merits termination and you know it."
LEGALLY is the operative word. Like I said, the employee could get a lawyer, but often can't afford one. That is where union representaion could be beneficial.

[Old Army]

When I retired from my union job after 13 years of paying dues I got a check for $100. I think, but am not sure, that they will give my wife $100 when I die. Woo Hoo!!!

[Hmmm]

This discussion has been going on for a long time

[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>If you can't afford a lawyer after 29.5 years of work you have bigger problems than being terminated. Most lawyers would take a legit case like that and recoup their fee during the settlement process costing the client nothing. I know this for a fact.

My neighbor was told, "You are not needed anymore." Simple as that. He did nothing wrong other than get too close to collecting a pension. That is a FACT. He shouldn't have to hire a lawyer to defend himself. It could be a big expense and WHAT IF he doesn't win? You must have alot of confidence in our judicial system. I don't. They are just as corrupt as the unions and the politicians.

Just because YOU are rich, doesn't mean everyone else is. He may not have made the fortune you did. Or maybe he didn't spend and save as wisely as you did. That doesn't make him bad. He is a regular hard-working American citizen that did what he could to make a life for himself. And in the end, he got screwed. Now at retirement age and scraping by on SS, he is looking for a job.

[Raptor in Michigan]

Old Army wrote:

When I retired from my union job after 13 years of paying dues I got a check for $100. I think, but am not sure, that they will give my wife $100 when I die. Woo Hoo!!!

Consider yourself lucky. We get $75. A friend who retired several years ago had to beg for it.

[Billy Bob]

Old Army wrote:

When I retired from my union job after 13 years of paying dues I got a check for $100. I think, but am not sure, that they will give my wife $100 when I die. Woo Hoo!!!

With all the money you make tax free doing under the table jobs $100 is nothing to you.

[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>You can't guilt me into feeling bad for the success I have achieved over my lifetime. It is well deserved. Your neighbors story doesn't make sense. I don't believe it. There is more to it I guarantee you. I wish him and you luck especially around the Hiliday Season!

You shouldn't feel guilty about being successful. That isn't what I said. But you also shouldn't criticise someone else for having circumstances beyond his control cause him hardships. If there is more to it; if he is that bad of an employee, why didn't they can him after five years? ten? twenty? What's up with waiting until he is 6 months from retirement?

The last time I saw my uncle, he told me, "Don't let life bite you in the ass." My uncle had been bitten a few times. Some people get bit; others don't. Some ask for it and deserve it; others don't.

[eyes]

Did anyone notice Homeland Security vehicles in the vicinity days prior?

[X-files]

UFOs!!

[marg]

eyes wrote:

Did anyone notice Homeland Security vehicles in the vicinity days prior?

Where?

[Old Armyh]

Billy Bob wrote:

<quoted text>With all the money you make tax free doing under the table jobs $100 is nothing to you.

Speak for yourself phaggot.

[Raptor in Michigan]

WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe they caught him stealing or peeing in the break room coffee pot or maybe he sexually harassed somebody, whatever it was there is more to it than he told you. Nobody goes 6 months before retirement to get fired and not fight for their benefits, job back or reputation. NOBODY, unless it was a just firing.

You are judging someone you have never met. I don't beleive it would have been any of what you said. He was told simply he was not needed anymore. Yeah, I wonder why.

[Dont know nothin]

Well i dont know nothin.

[Billy Bob]

Old Armyh wrote:

<quoted text>
Speak for yourself phaggot.

WOW... Kind of touchy there... I must of hit on the truth.

[Old Army]

Billy Bob wrote:

<quoted text> WOW... Kind of touchy there... I must of hit on the truth.

No bitch, you are a liar and the truth is not in you.

[guest]

Big deal

[wormed]

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[Hay Hugh Dumas]

So are the spiders keeping the blackbird population down this year?

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