The State taking childcare assistance...
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#27 Feb 6, 2013
Mandy wrote:
Again you can't predict the future & say you or someone in your family won't need assistance.
Not him, he's the master of his own destiny...with a masters degree to go with it :)
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#29 Feb 6, 2013
None wrote:
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Not if you care about security.
Nah, I only care about hitting next quarter's numbers. So I'll lay off my US developers, outsource the code to make the project come in way under budget, make my numbers, take my bonus, and let the next CEO worry about any vulnerabilities down the road. See how easy that was.
damn

Elizabethtown, KY

#30 Feb 9, 2013
Does Obama know about this?! You know if it involves giving away free money he is all for it.
Dumbocrat

Smiths Grove, KY

#31 Feb 10, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Which makes no sense because KY pays more in assistance to its citizens than it receives in tax revenue...taxing poor people to turn around and give it back to them. Why? Because we're a welfare state that relies on the tax money of those "Yankee" states we hate so much to keep us operating. All factories built here receive tax credits so they pay nothing in taxes, then they pay their employees so little that those families have to rely on Federal government assistance to survive. Then, amazingly, we turn around and elect politicians who campaign to cut the Federal taxes and assistance that the state depends on! The ignorance is breathtaking.
your logic is flawed, if one took your viewpoint society would be better off without any private business, this was already tried and failed, go try and develop your own business and let me know how successful you are
StopItYo

Elizabethtown, KY

#32 Feb 10, 2013
if you get any public assistance you should have to take random drug tests! That will stop alot feom receiving benecits. come up hot twice on a test and be banned forever from assistance.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#33 Feb 10, 2013
Dumbocrat wrote:
<quoted text> your logic is flawed, if one took your viewpoint society would be better off without any private business, this was already tried and failed, go try and develop your own business and let me know how successful you are
Not following your logic. I've been a part of many successful private and public businesses, all of which paid competitive salaries/benefits and paid taxes like they were supposed to. Are you saying a business can only survive if they don't pay taxes and make the tax payers pick up the tab for employee benefits? I don't know of any truly successful business people who believe that. Real business people know that you compete by developing marketable products, not through Government lobbying and loopholes.
Dumbocrat

Smiths Grove, KY

#34 Feb 10, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Not following your logic. I've been a part of many successful private and public businesses, all of which paid competitive salaries/benefits and paid taxes like they were supposed to. Are you saying a business can only survive if they don't pay taxes and make the tax payers pick up the tab for employee benefits? I don't know of any truly successful business people who believe that. Real business people know that you compete by developing marketable products, not through Government lobbying and loopholes.
well you need capital to invest, government rarely provides that, unless of cours you happen to be a large campaign contributor, competitive pricing for marketable products requires significant cost reductions, government is literally killing the goose that laid the golden egg
greedy

Louisville, KY

#35 Feb 10, 2013
The rich getting rich off the back of poor people is all I see. I've said my piece now deny what is happening. Never in my lifetime have I seen things in such a sorry state. Nafta needs to be repealed along with any other agreement to bring work back here.
dotdotdot

Radcliff, KY

#36 Feb 10, 2013
None wrote:
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Not if you care about security.
Stop trolling.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#37 Feb 11, 2013
Dumbocrat wrote:
<quoted text> well you need capital to invest, government rarely provides that, unless of cours you happen to be a large campaign contributor, competitive pricing for marketable products requires significant cost reductions, government is literally killing the goose that laid the golden egg
Still not sure of the point you're trying to make about the government. Capital goes to where ever there are profits to be made, and businesses need buyers to be successful. America is the primary consumer market in the world, so paying low wages to Americans (too low for them to afford to buy products) is a losing proposition for everyone. The number of people on government assistance (and thus the need for higher taxation) is the result of bad businessmen killing the goose (the American consumer) to make a quick buck; the Government is just reacting to that environment. Easy credit artificially propped up the American economy for many years to compensate for the decline in wages since the 80's, and wages must return for the American economy to get back on track. The most successful model through the recession has been Germany because they have a heavily unionized, highly regulated industrial economy that wasn't propped up by the financial sector. That's what American needs to get back to as well.
Heehaw

Elizabethtown, KY

#39 Feb 11, 2013
None you are hitting the nail on the head. I swear you and I may be twins. Finally someone who shares the same mind set as me.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#40 Feb 12, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Still not sure of the point you're trying to make about the government. Capital goes to where ever there are profits to be made, and businesses need buyers to be successful. America is the primary consumer market in the world, so paying low wages to Americans (too low for them to afford to buy products) is a losing proposition for everyone. The number of people on government assistance (and thus the need for higher taxation) is the result of bad businessmen killing the goose (the American consumer) to make a quick buck; the Government is just reacting to that environment. Easy credit artificially propped up the American economy for many years to compensate for the decline in wages since the 80's, and wages must return for the American economy to get back on track. The most successful model through the recession has been Germany because they have a heavily unionized, highly regulated industrial economy that wasn't propped up by the financial sector. That's what American needs to get back to as well.
germany? really? they employ and build on borrowed goverment money. they are making products (by union scale workers) that they are not sure will sell internationally.(its projected and its not selling). sounds like a big bloated government created balloon. does any of this sound familiar to you? its just in reverse,the government is borrowing. germany has almost half the debt the us does,with one fourth the population(break that down per person). IS THIS THE FANTASTIC MARXIST EXAMPLE THE US SHOULD GO BY?
you are a globalist pawn,and a marxist, anti constitutional tool,who seeks to teach all of us to live like good communist bithches....no thanks.
why dont you put your turtle neck on,and go down to panera bread to discuss how all of the hard working,self made, hardin county people like me are "knuckle draggers".
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#41 Feb 12, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Still not sure of the point you're trying to make about the government. Capital goes to where ever there are profits to be made, and businesses need buyers to be successful. America is the primary consumer market in the world, so paying low wages to Americans (too low for them to afford to buy products) is a losing proposition for everyone. The number of people on government assistance (and thus the need for higher taxation) is the result of bad businessmen killing the goose (the American consumer) to make a quick buck; the Government is just reacting to that environment. Easy credit artificially propped up the American economy for many years to compensate for the decline in wages since the 80's, and wages must return for the American economy to get back on track. The most successful model through the recession has been Germany because they have a heavily unionized, highly regulated industrial economy that wasn't propped up by the financial sector. That's what American needs to get back to as well.
why would i talk to you about me being a "self made" person ? you dont understand the concept! it blows your mind how an american person could survive without unions,or government. when other people try to explain how they have achieved this goal, you come in with condescending comments,and alot of useless information!
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#42 Feb 12, 2013
The Point wrote:
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Still not sure of the point you're trying to make about the government. Capital goes to where ever there are profits to be made, and businesses need buyers to be successful. America is the primary consumer market in the world, so paying low wages to Americans (too low for them to afford to buy products) is a losing proposition for everyone. The number of people on government assistance (and thus the need for higher taxation) is the result of bad businessmen killing the goose (the American consumer) to make a quick buck; the Government is just reacting to that environment. Easy credit artificially propped up the American economy for many years to compensate for the decline in wages since the 80's, and wages must return for the American economy to get back on track. The most successful model through the recession has been Germany because they have a heavily unionized, highly regulated industrial economy that wasn't propped up by the financial sector. That's what American needs to get back to as well.
ifin u want to get all fancy,we can talk about the gdp in germany,but not till later.....i got to warsh my overhall britches in the creek,and do some learnin on why pope ben a dick stept down.
Fluffy the Rat

Vine Grove, KY

#43 Feb 12, 2013
Maybe...just maybe...
People should consider what they need to support a child before they have one.
But that would be asking people to be accountable and responsible.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#44 Feb 12, 2013
Fluffy the Rat wrote:
Maybe...just maybe...
People should consider what they need to support a child before they have one.
But that would be asking people to be accountable and responsible.
what people like " the point " wont tell you is this. hilary clinton wrote the book, "it takes a village" back in 1996 that preaty much furthered his marxist agenda saying that parents werent resposible for raising children,it took the whole community. teachers unions ate this up and publicly taught it,and used it as an educational tool. now that the kids of 1996 have grown to adulthood.......the true form of his marxist, communist views is an easy sell on these now grown adults, which is....it takes a village to raise adults,and there is no way they can be responsible for themselves.
i say suck it up,get a job or two,make yourself more valuable to your employer,and work your way up just like gerations of americans did before you......your not special! do you think they will get it?
Exactly

Frankfort, KY

#45 Feb 12, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>what people like " the point " wont tell you is this. hilary clinton wrote the book, "it takes a village" back in 1996 that preaty much furthered his marxist agenda saying that parents werent resposible for raising children,it took the whole community. teachers unions ate this up and publicly taught it,and used it as an educational tool. now that the kids of 1996 have grown to adulthood.......the true form of his marxist, communist views is an easy sell on these now grown adults, which is....it takes a village to raise adults,and there is no way they can be responsible for themselves.
i say suck it up,get a job or two,make yourself more valuable to your employer,and work your way up just like gerations of americans did before you......your not special! do you think they will get it?
My boy's were 9 & 7 when I left their father. I received no child support for 7 years and when he did finally start paying I could never depend it on. I never received public assistance and I worked two jobs for 12 years to take care of my children. People now a days don't want to work for their money or they want to start out on top instead of working their way up like we did, to good for those "meaningless" jobs according to them. I also believe that child support should be equal between both parents, it shouldn't matter how much each parent makes. It is not the other persons fault that the other one either doesn't want to work or choses to work part time or whatever the excuse may be.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#46 Feb 12, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>i say suck it up,get a job or two,make yourself more valuable to your employer,and work your way up just like gerations of americans did before you......your not special! do you think they will get it?
You're high again. My parents raised three kids in the 70's on a single Union manufacturing salary; my dad had an 8th grade education, worked 8 hours a day, took us fishing on the weekends and to vacations in Florida in the summer. My mom didn't have to work, so she was able to stay home and raise us to respect our government, pray to Jesus, and value our education. You think a book by Hillary in 1996 destroyed all that? Put down the pipe and get off those kooky websites you enjoy so much.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#47 Feb 12, 2013
Oh, and have you found a good conspiracy theory about why the globalist made the Pope step down yet? I've been waiting all day for that one.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#49 Feb 13, 2013
The Point wrote:
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You're high again. My parents raised three kids in the 70's on a single Union manufacturing salary; my dad had an 8th grade education, worked 8 hours a day, took us fishing on the weekends and to vacations in Florida in the summer. My mom didn't have to work, so she was able to stay home and raise us to respect our government, pray to Jesus, and value our education. You think a book by Hillary in 1996 destroyed all that? Put down the pipe and get off those kooky websites you enjoy so much.
ahhhh, the 70's , miss those days. my father was a teamster,as was i later in life. the company he worked for bankrupted. the company i worked for outsourced mine and 60 other jobs because the my fellow teamsters wouldnt vote for a two year hiring freeze,keep in mind that we were making 60'000 dollars a year to drive a truck in the 90's. greedy bastards,they wanted more. you can tell all of the glamorous stories of how unions are the greatest thing since sliced bread,but the reality is, alot of union workers dont share your "leave it to beaver story". so how about you get your lips off of jackie pressers private parts and put on your big boy pants and make your own way!

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