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believe a cracker

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Mar 29, 2013
 
The Point wrote:
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Really, the second amendment says my 12 year old daughter can buy a handgun at a pawn shop, no questions asked? Is that what the "militia" part means? No, the Heller decision is the only thing that matters at this point, and Scalia specifically said that, as a personal right, the second amendment comes with government limits on the types of weapons a person can own and the conditions under which they can be owned. That part of the debate is over. Now it is a matter of defining what are appropriate personal weapons and ownership conditions. The only people still saying your right is unlimited are the gun manufacturers and the three f*ck stains (Rand, Cruz, Lee) they paid to tell you that.
scalia said, "weapons that are ordinary to the military". i dont know if you know this or not,but i cant buy "weapons that are ordinary to the military" at any gun show,or pawn shop, and if i did buy it from an individual , being caught could give me a 5 year stay in federal prison......again, whats your point? if a bushmaster was "ordinary to our military" we would lose every war we engaged in.
what weapons are you wanting banned via the heller decision for the "greater good"?
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Mar 29, 2013
 
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>scalia said, "weapons that are ordinary to the military". i dont know if you know this or not,but i cant buy "weapons that are ordinary to the military" at any gun show,or pawn shop, and if i did buy it from an individual , being caught could give me a 5 year stay in federal prison......again, whats your point? if a bushmaster was "ordinary to our military" we would lose every war we engaged in.
what weapons are you wanting banned via the heller decision for the "greater good"?
I don't personally propose banning any weapon, and the bill before the Senate that Rand and "wacko birds" want to filibuster doesn't ban anything either. It simply requires a background check to purchase a weapon. That's a common sense step in line with other dangerous tools (like cars) and completely in line with what Scalia said would be a reasonable second amendment restriction in Heller. We're on the same team here (I got my first 410 when I was 8 years old). But the reality is that people in other parts of the country live in a war zone with thugs with illegal handguns that they get from straw buyers who get those weapons in states like ours. You can't blame them for wanting something done to stop the bloodshed. Also, because that background check would prohibit the 2 million people who assault their spouses each year from buying a guy quickly, I think it could help reduce some of the domestic "heat of the moment" tragedies we have in these parts too. Just common sense, not conspiracy theories.

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But the reality is that people in other parts of the country live in a war zone with thugs with illegal handguns that they get from straw buyers who get those weapons in states like ours. You can't blame them for wanting something done to stop the bloodshed.
They would not live in a war zone if they were not flooded with immigrants. Over a quarter of today's prison population belongs to illegal immigrants. 95% of the outstanding homicide warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants and they take up 67% of fugitive felony warrants. At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. Not to mention the human trafficking and sex slave market. Blood of the gods, I don't even want to think about how many american teenage girls that go missing are down south being pimped by Los Zetas. 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported keep in mind, so they are not just ignorant criminals...they come here to the land of opportunity to commit crimes. If it is organized crime, they are 5 times more likely to be armed while committing these crimes, and organized crime always takes the higher portion when it comes to smuggling and the sex kidnap trade.

So what you have is a VERY large predatory population that is armed and committing an enormous share of armed crimes.

I'm sorry buddy. This alone(not counting our good ol american murderers and gun criminals) tells me that they can't possibly just be buying from gun-liberal states. These masses of criminals are armed for a reason and they have specific sources. Guns are not the root of the problem here. Our country being flooded is the problem. Get rid of them first. Clean them from our streets and our jails, then we can start controlling gun crime in our own population. Limiting the kinds of guns that our citizens can defend themselves with is only going to make more vulnerable.

Seems I hear people talking about this gun bill and gay marriage so much, they ignore the fact that Obama wants to legalize 11 million illegals and welcome another 25 million.
Talk about being distracted from the real problem.
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Mar 30, 2013
 
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They would not live in a war zone if they were not flooded with immigrants. Over a quarter of today's prison population belongs to illegal immigrants. 95% of the outstanding homicide warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants and they take up 67% of fugitive felony warrants. At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. Not to mention the human trafficking and sex slave market. Blood of the gods, I don't even want to think about how many american teenage girls that go missing are down south being pimped by Los Zetas. 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported keep in mind, so they are not just ignorant criminals...they come here to the land of opportunity to commit crimes. If it is organized crime, they are 5 times more likely to be armed while committing these crimes, and organized crime always takes the higher portion when it comes to smuggling and the sex kidnap trade.
So what you have is a VERY large predatory population that is armed and committing an enormous share of armed crimes.
I'm sorry buddy. This alone(not counting our good ol american murderers and gun criminals) tells me that they can't possibly just be buying from gun-liberal states. These masses of criminals are armed for a reason and they have specific sources. Guns are not the root of the problem here. Our country being flooded is the problem. Get rid of them first. Clean them from our streets and our jails, then we can start controlling gun crime in our own population. Limiting the kinds of guns that our citizens can defend themselves with is only going to make more vulnerable.
Seems I hear people talking about this gun bill and gay marriage so much, they ignore the fact that Obama wants to legalize 11 million illegals and welcome another 25 million.
Talk about being distracted from the real problem.
YOU ARE CORRECT! i gave up on making this point along time ago on here. i grew tired of being called a bigot for simply pointing out facts.
what group calls itself "la raza" and still gets positive media attention? could you imagine native whites doing the same?
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Mar 30, 2013
 
northern wind wrote:
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They would not live in a war zone if they were not flooded with immigrants. Over a quarter of today's prison population belongs to illegal immigrants. 95% of the outstanding homicide warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants and they take up 67% of fugitive felony warrants. At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. Not to mention the human trafficking and sex slave market. Blood of the gods, I don't even want to think about how many american teenage girls that go missing are down south being pimped by Los Zetas. 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported keep in mind, so they are not just ignorant criminals...they come here to the land of opportunity to commit crimes. If it is organized crime, they are 5 times more likely to be armed while committing these crimes, and organized crime always takes the higher portion when it comes to smuggling and the sex kidnap trade.
So what you have is a VERY large predatory population that is armed and committing an enormous share of armed crimes.
I'm sorry buddy. This alone(not counting our good ol american murderers and gun criminals) tells me that they can't possibly just be buying from gun-liberal states. These masses of criminals are armed for a reason and they have specific sources. Guns are not the root of the problem here. Our country being flooded is the problem. Get rid of them first. Clean them from our streets and our jails, then we can start controlling gun crime in our own population. Limiting the kinds of guns that our citizens can defend themselves with is only going to make more vulnerable.
Seems I hear people talking about this gun bill and gay marriage so much, they ignore the fact that Obama wants to legalize 11 million illegals and welcome another 25 million.
Talk about being distracted from the real problem.
furthermore, how could confiscated guns from the feds be found later,used by mexican drug cartels? then the obama administration defends the justice department for "losing track" of the confiscated guns? but the average citizen shouldnt be allowed to have an ar-15? idk, something doesnt add up!
if eric holder keeps handing out guns to dangerous drug cartels, i may need to buy better weapons to defend my home.

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