its wrong to live together before mar...
DickW

Vine Grove, KY

#21 Mar 5, 2013
wooden teeth wrote:
as i have said before, your idea that moving in together as a test, is based on your own selfish idea of what a marriage should be. you are basically saying, that if this other person cant please me, or live up to my expectations, that they may, "hit the road".
Freind, that is not love, that is selfishness. you dont understand that love means overlooking one anothers faults, self-denial, self-sacrifice, not self-pleasing, self-gratifying, and so on. this is one argument against moving in together. it is wrong, and immoral to be sure in many respects other than the sexual aspects of the relationship.
and oh yeah, it is a sin according to the bible to commit adultery and fornication. i have old sermons , where they teach it is wrong for an unmarried couple to hold hands! what a shift in our thinking we have today, and what an increase of STD's and suffering we have to go along with it.
You know that's kind of sweet. In a perfect world, we all would live by that. Did not expect that kind of response. Props.
Wisdom

Radcliff, KY

#22 Mar 5, 2013
Wooden Teeth, you have no case against cohabitation other than religeous beliefs, and let's not forget that those are OPINIONS. Make no mistake, I'm not condemning faith. It's done great things for many people, but those are the people who want or need it. Not everyone does, and thus, not everyone is bound to the same set of beliefs & rules.
from what I know

Brandenburg, KY

#23 Mar 5, 2013


Weakness in your understanding of scripture which produces vague point. Yes, it is wrong to live together outside of marriage. Make it right with commitment and then forgiveness comes.
GOD is the one who ordained marriage. Those who have no relationship with Him may not understand that. Society is not in charge; God is.
Mandy wrote:
I am assuming then you have also plucked out your eyes & cut off your hands since the bible says that too. Don't just pick what you want from it. Live it all if you are going to try & preach to everyone. My church teaches forgiveness. I guess your's doesn't.
iinteresting

Elizabethtown, KY

#24 Mar 8, 2013
Mandy wrote:
I am assuming then you have also plucked out your eyes & cut off your hands since the bible says that too. Don't just pick what you want from it. Live it all if you are going to try & preach to everyone. My church teaches forgiveness. I guess your's doesn't.
Bible teaches forgiveness after the person removes himself from his questionable lifestyle.
Mandy

Elizabethtown, KY

#25 Mar 8, 2013
Oh get of your high horse people! Does it really affect you if someone chooses to live together before they get married? No. Get a life & stop trying to tell other's how to live their's.
wooden teeth

Elizabethtown, KY

#26 Mar 8, 2013
Mandy wrote:
Oh get of your high horse people! Does it really affect you if someone chooses to live together before they get married? No. Get a life & stop trying to tell other's how to live their's.
yes it does affect other people, because the more people that do it, the looser that the community becomes, and the more chances of contracting some disease, besides the fact of it being immoral to begin with.
and its wrong to let children see such a dysfunctional home and relationship. it is not a stable enviroment for them either, when one of their parents is able at will to move in another adult they have not previously known. so yes, the effects are detrimental to other people, and usually in a negative way.
Blah

Elizabethtown, KY

#27 Mar 8, 2013
wooden teeth wrote:
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yes it does affect other people, because the more people that do it, the looser that the community becomes, and the more chances of contracting some disease, besides the fact of it being immoral to begin with.
and its wrong to let children see such a dysfunctional home and relationship. it is not a stable enviroment for them either, when one of their parents is able at will to move in another adult they have not previously known. so yes, the effects are detrimental to other people, and usually in a negative way.
So in other words it affects you because you want to cheat on your wife and not catch a disease? This is your logic? You are a blooming idiot who really needs to preach morals. Get over it!
believe a cracker

Trinity, TX

#28 Mar 8, 2013
Blah wrote:
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So in other words it affects you because you want to cheat on your wife and not catch a disease? This is your logic? You are a blooming idiot who really needs to preach morals. Get over it!
im trying to find the logic behind the anger most of you have toward wooden teeth. how is "preaching morals" less offensive than omitting them? why is it ok for you to be offended by what he says,but your comments are normal? who or what gave you the authority to say what is right or wrong,or decide he is an idiot?
believe a cracker

Trinity, TX

#29 Mar 8, 2013
iinteresting wrote:
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Bible teaches forgiveness after the person removes himself from his questionable lifestyle.
i have received forgiveness without being removed from my "questionable lifestyle",and so have you,so lets try not to be so self consumed. moses himself could only see the "back parts" of God because of his perpetual state of sin.
wrong is wrong i agree,but removing is a strong word( if you personally think about it)
Logic Bomb

Elizabethtown, KY

#30 Mar 8, 2013
wooden teeth wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it does affect other people, because the more people that do it, the looser that the community becomes, and the more chances of contracting some disease, besides the fact of it being immoral to begin with.
and its wrong to let children see such a dysfunctional home and relationship. it is not a stable enviroment for them either, when one of their parents is able at will to move in another adult they have not previously known. so yes, the effects are detrimental to other people, and usually in a negative way.
Just as many people with "faith" and "religious morals" than without have dysfunctional homes and relationships and get divorced, etc. That is a bullshit defense against living together before marriage and using that as an attack on it is the definition of ignorance. Communities become loser when people like you judge other people and push your ignorant beliefs on them and divide the community. Your "morals" are just your opinion of what is right and there is absolutely no evidence that they are the correct way to live other than your own bias.

How about instead of attacking your fellow community members beliefs and opinions you mind your own business and focus on being a good person and let the rest sort itself out. The world would be a much better place if we didn't have people like you sticking their nose in everyone else's shit telling them how to live.
believe a cracker

Trinity, TX

#31 Mar 8, 2013
did you know that the most used words on topix are the following.......i and my, people we worship ourselves! why? if jesus ever decided to be redundant about any subject over and over again , it was serving others. thats a hard pill for me too swallow,but its truth.
Mandy

Elizabethtown, KY

#32 Mar 8, 2013
wooden teeth wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it does affect other people, because the more people that do it, the looser that the community becomes, and the more chances of contracting some disease, besides the fact of it being immoral to begin with.
and its wrong to let children see such a dysfunctional home and relationship. it is not a stable enviroment for them either, when one of their parents is able at will to move in another adult they have not previously known. so yes, the effects are detrimental to other people, and usually in a negative way.
My husband's ex-wife is getting ready to be married for the 4th time. Yeah marriage is à real sticking point for some, huh? My husband & I did live together for years before we got married because he got burned so bad withhus ex. I am the only woman his daughter has ever had in her life besides her mom. I never really thought I would live with someone before marriage, but life happens.
believe a cracker

Trinity, TX

#33 Mar 8, 2013
Logic Bomb wrote:
<quoted text>
Just as many people with "faith" and "religious morals" than without have dysfunctional homes and relationships and get divorced, etc. That is a bullshit defense against living together before marriage and using that as an attack on it is the definition of ignorance. Communities become loser when people like you judge other people and push your ignorant beliefs on them and divide the community. Your "morals" are just your opinion of what is right and there is absolutely no evidence that they are the correct way to live other than your own bias.
How about instead of attacking your fellow community members beliefs and opinions you mind your own business and focus on being a good person and let the rest sort itself out. The world would be a much better place if we didn't have people like you sticking their nose in everyone else's shit telling them how to live.
so no one is allowed to have an opinion unless it agrees with your beliefs? your belief of no belief isnt ignorant? who judged that? in not about forcing someone to share my beliefs,but arent you "judging " wooden teeth by sharing your opinion? why does this only work in one direction?
believe a cracker

Trinity, TX

#34 Mar 8, 2013
Logic Bomb wrote:
<quoted text>
Just as many people with "faith" and "religious morals" than without have dysfunctional homes and relationships and get divorced, etc. That is a bullshit defense against living together before marriage and using that as an attack on it is the definition of ignorance. Communities become loser when people like you judge other people and push your ignorant beliefs on them and divide the community. Your "morals" are just your opinion of what is right and there is absolutely no evidence that they are the correct way to live other than your own bias.
How about instead of attacking your fellow community members beliefs and opinions you mind your own business and focus on being a good person and let the rest sort itself out. The world would be a much better place if we didn't have people like you sticking their nose in everyone else's shit telling them how to live.
i suppose you have never gave anyone one bit of constructive advice....EVER? if you did,was you sticking your nose in their business? could you be guilty of what you just preached a long "sermon" about?
Bubalouie

Evansville, IN

#35 Mar 8, 2013
wooden teeth wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it does affect other people, because the more people that do it, the looser that the community becomes, and the more chances of contracting some disease, besides the fact of it being immoral to begin with.
and its wrong to let children see such a dysfunctional home and relationship. it is not a stable enviroment for them either, when one of their parents is able at will to move in another adult they have not previously known. so yes, the effects are detrimental to other people, and usually in a negative way.
Awe Dad, why don't you see if anyone can divorce for any reason what does it matter?
Blah

Elizabethtown, KY

#36 Mar 8, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>im trying to find the logic behind the anger most of you have toward wooden teeth. how is "preaching morals" less offensive than omitting them? why is it ok for you to be offended by what he says,but your comments are normal? who or what gave you the authority to say what is right or wrong,or decide he is an idiot?
????? Do you think I give two flying turds what you think? My authority is my own. You are not my boss and until there is a law against living together before marriage I will be my own authority on my adult decisions and will also encourage my poor immoral children to live with someone before they decide to marry. Like I said get over it. You have no say so in my life and have no authority in my life. Good night, sir.
Logic Bomb

Elizabethtown, KY

#37 Mar 9, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>i suppose you have never gave anyone one bit of constructive advice....EVER? if you did,was you sticking your nose in their business? could you be guilty of what you just preached a long "sermon" about?
Giving someone constructive advice when asked to do so is different than getting on a public forum and judging everyone when not asked to do. So no I'm not guilty by your faulty logic. I'm not judging anyone. Just telling them to mind their own business.
Logic Bomb

Elizabethtown, KY

#38 Mar 9, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>so no one is allowed to have an opinion unless it agrees with your beliefs? your belief of no belief isnt ignorant? who judged that? in not about forcing someone to share my beliefs,but arent you "judging " wooden teeth by sharing your opinion? why does this only work in one direction?
No where did I say everyone's beliefs should align with mine. Come back at me when you have some reading comprehension.
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#39 Mar 9, 2013
Logic Bomb wrote:
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No where did I say everyone's beliefs should align with mine. Come back at me when you have some reading comprehension.
you are still trying to convince me of how your lack of morals are better than wooden teeth's morals, why are yours better? you said, "i gave myself the authority". why is yours special?
when you scolded wooden teeth for giving his moral authority, you did in fact say it didnt and should align with yours!
if you think you are dropping some "logic bomb",you have lost your mind. it sounds like the same regurgitated line to me!
believe a cracker

Elizabethtown, KY

#40 Mar 9, 2013
Blah wrote:
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????? Do you think I give two flying turds what you think? My authority is my own. You are not my boss and until there is a law against living together before marriage I will be my own authority on my adult decisions and will also encourage my poor immoral children to live with someone before they decide to marry. Like I said get over it. You have no say so in my life and have no authority in my life. Good night, sir.
that is not the point i am trying too make. i dont think it should be against the law.
wooden teeth gave his opinion.....why cant he do that? he gave his opinion of what he sees as morals, you guys gave your opinion back saying you are the judge of your own morals. why is your idea of morals ok to communicate,but his offensive?
im not trying too be a dic$ im just asking questions. i would never take away your constitutional right to do what you want,and neither would God.

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