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believe a cracker

Bedias, TX

#62 Jun 25, 2013
northern wind wrote:
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I think you misunderstood.
Semites, as a people, have the same rights as every other person.
Their religion, cultural practices, and philosophy does not have any "rights" and are open to the same kind of criticism Christianity< Buddhism, Paganism, and Islam gets.
are we talking just in general , or constitutional?
believe a cracker

Bedias, TX

#63 Jun 25, 2013
northern wind wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you misunderstood.
Semites, as a people, have the same rights as every other person.
Their religion, cultural practices, and philosophy does not have any "rights" and are open to the same kind of criticism Christianity< Buddhism, Paganism, and Islam gets.
people have the right to be ,and speak as an anti semite via the first amendment ,but the philosophy has a right to exist under the same amendment. do you agree with that?

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#64 Jun 25, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>people have the right to be ,and speak as an anti semite via the first amendment ,but the philosophy has a right to exist under the same amendment. do you agree with that?
Legally, yes. Religions are protected, and so is free speech. Yet, those are the rights of people.

I am talking about when you show or express distaste for a philosophy, mindset, religion, and etc...it is not intruding upon any "rights" of any person. All ideas are up for question.They're only conclusions, after all. At the barest, they are only brain impulses and chemical reactions until a person acts on them (suicide bombing, conspiracy, etc)

A person, who is of said lineage, said race, said nationality or origin, is naturally so and therefore they are not up for question or criticism like an IDEA such as Islam or Judaism is.

If a religion of philosophy informs the actions of a person, and said person causes harm to other people, then the idea must be questioned. Sometimes it must be changed or eradicated.

A person's race does not inform their actions, nor does their lineage or ethnic origin. Ideas must form and cause their muscles to contract to commit the act that will ultimately define the Philosophy or Religion they belong to.

This is why being racist is silly. But one can also be some form of liberally defined "anti-semite" by saying something like "The Jewish teachings consistently discard and go against nature."
And then, somehow you are a racist.
It's a fallacy.
You are not racist for opposing and idea. You are doing something perfectly natural and necessary.
Even if all the gods in every religion existed in a divine multiverse, and each ancient religion held truth, you would STILL have to question the ideas and tenets of each religion because those tenets INFORM the actions of people who can in some way effect your life and that of your community.
Calling a person a bigot for attacking a theology or philosophy is like calling cop who searches a man in a ski mask in front of a bank nosy.
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#65 Jun 27, 2013
northern wind wrote:
<quoted text>
Legally, yes. Religions are protected, and so is free speech. Yet, those are the rights of people.
I am talking about when you show or express distaste for a philosophy, mindset, religion, and etc...it is not intruding upon any "rights" of any person. All ideas are up for question.They're only conclusions, after all. At the barest, they are only brain impulses and chemical reactions until a person acts on them (suicide bombing, conspiracy, etc)
A person, who is of said lineage, said race, said nationality or origin, is naturally so and therefore they are not up for question or criticism like an IDEA such as Islam or Judaism is.
If a religion of philosophy informs the actions of a person, and said person causes harm to other people, then the idea must be questioned. Sometimes it must be changed or eradicated.
A person's race does not inform their actions, nor does their lineage or ethnic origin. Ideas must form and cause their muscles to contract to commit the act that will ultimately define the Philosophy or Religion they belong to.
This is why being racist is silly. But one can also be some form of liberally defined "anti-semite" by saying something like "The Jewish teachings consistently discard and go against nature."
And then, somehow you are a racist.
It's a fallacy.
You are not racist for opposing and idea. You are doing something perfectly natural and necessary.
Even if all the gods in every religion existed in a divine multiverse, and each ancient religion held truth, you would STILL have to question the ideas and tenets of each religion because those tenets INFORM the actions of people who can in some way effect your life and that of your community.
Calling a person a bigot for attacking a theology or philosophy is like calling cop who searches a man in a ski mask in front of a bank nosy.
i understand ,and i agree that the word racist gets thrown around too much. it cheapens dangerous racism.
i also do disagree to a point. who is going to decide which philosophy or idea will be eradicated? what if one idiotic person decides falsely that the Hebrew God told him to kill people? do we then eradicate Christianity because their "philosophy informed"?
that's the same as me suggesting that you are a Nazi sympathizer?
no idea should ever be eradicated by the actions of a few misguided individuals.....just simply eradicate those who do bad actions. what you are suggesting is very dangerous ,and unconstitutional.
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#66 Jun 27, 2013
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>i understand ,and i agree that the word racist gets thrown around too much. it cheapens dangerous racism.
i also do disagree to a point. who is going to decide which philosophy or idea will be eradicated? what if one idiotic person decides falsely that the Hebrew God told him to kill people? do we then eradicate Christianity because their "philosophy informed"?
that's the same as me suggesting that you are a Nazi sympathizer?
no idea should ever be eradicated by the actions of a few misguided individuals.....just simply eradicate those who do bad actions. what you are suggesting is very dangerous ,and unconstitutional.
who is the quantifier ? who makes these decisions? i completely understand that i am treading dangerous ground with my response ,but what else can i do.
it is very possible for everyone to live in harmony in this country under the constitution ,under any religion ,any race...ect.
it is absolutely possible, but will people like you allow it?
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#67 Jun 27, 2013
i see you! lol
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#68 Jun 27, 2013
northern wind wrote:
<quoted text>
Legally, yes. Religions are protected, and so is free speech. Yet, those are the rights of people.
I am talking about when you show or express distaste for a philosophy, mindset, religion, and etc...it is not intruding upon any "rights" of any person. All ideas are up for question.They're only conclusions, after all. At the barest, they are only brain impulses and chemical reactions until a person acts on them (suicide bombing, conspiracy, etc)
A person, who is of said lineage, said race, said nationality or origin, is naturally so and therefore they are not up for question or criticism like an IDEA such as Islam or Judaism is.
If a religion of philosophy informs the actions of a person, and said person causes harm to other people, then the idea must be questioned. Sometimes it must be changed or eradicated.
A person's race does not inform their actions, nor does their lineage or ethnic origin. Ideas must form and cause their muscles to contract to commit the act that will ultimately define the Philosophy or Religion they belong to.
This is why being racist is silly. But one can also be some form of liberally defined "anti-semite" by saying something like "The Jewish teachings consistently discard and go against nature."
And then, somehow you are a racist.
It's a fallacy.
You are not racist for opposing and idea. You are doing something perfectly natural and necessary.
Even if all the gods in every religion existed in a divine multiverse, and each ancient religion held truth, you would STILL have to question the ideas and tenets of each religion because those tenets INFORM the actions of people who can in some way effect your life and that of your community.
Calling a person a bigot for attacking a theology or philosophy is like calling cop who searches a man in a ski mask in front of a bank nosy.
dangerous times are coming for people that think like me....btw i appreciate you pointing that out publicly , it sure takes a lot of weight of my shoulders :) who has a mind to understand?

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#69 Jun 27, 2013
The idea that god would tell someone to kill someone else should be eradicated, not the Christian god himself. You see about the extremes I am talking about now?

I am saying that you cannot call someone a bigot for criticizing a religious beleif, because all beleifs are up for criticism. It is pretty simple, and does not have to be any more complicated than that.

Why does there need to be a quantifier. Why can a person not decide that an idea is unfit through objective thought without a person seeing it as an act of war?

What you want is not possible.
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#70 Jun 28, 2013
northern wind wrote:
The idea that god would tell someone to kill someone else should be eradicated, not the Christian god himself. You see about the extremes I am talking about now?
I am saying that you cannot call someone a bigot for criticizing a religious beleif, because all beleifs are up for criticism. It is pretty simple, and does not have to be any more complicated than that.
Why does there need to be a quantifier. Why can a person not decide that an idea is unfit through objective thought without a person seeing it as an act of war?
What you want is not possible.
I know it isn't possible , but I wanted you to say it, not me.
you have no idea what you just said , and how it confirms a lot of what I say on here. thanks!

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#71 Jun 28, 2013
Dude don't get all cryptic on me.
believe a cracker

Greensburg, KY

#72 Jun 28, 2013
northern wind wrote:
Dude don't get all cryptic on me.
hahaha , I like you! I actually lol, don't do that much on here.

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#73 Jun 29, 2013
Well that is not good. You shouldn't do something if it doesn't bring you at least a little mirth.

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