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First it was Gérard Depardieu, a very good actor, leaving France because of the insane tax rate imposed by the Leftist Hollande imposed a 75% tax on the wealthy in France. Now former French President Sarkozy is leaving France as well. The former president is now taking up residence in London due to the excessive taxation in France. Good job Lefties.
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First it was Gérard Depardieu, a very good actor, leaving France because of the insane tax rate imposed by the Leftist Hollande imposed a 75% tax on the wealthy in France. Now former French President Sarkozy is leaving France as well. The former president is now taking up residence in London due to the excessive taxation in France. Good job Lefties.
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Even at 75% the French tax rates on the well-to-do are considerably lower than they were in the US at a time when the US economy was expanding at a blistering rate, the American middle class and our infrastructure became the envy of the world...

Your sycophantic post will no doubt bring a smile to the faces of the poor Koch brothers and bring much needed joy to the Trumps of the world,...

Even HERE IS ONE and I are touched by your burning desire to keep our taxes low....

We play while well trained people like you toil from sun up to sun down and sacrifice your progeny's future just so those of us who can afford to pay higher taxes do not have to do so, leaving it up to concerned and kindly individuals like you to pay for our roads,bridges, schools, national parks and everything else that makes America great.....

Nice people like you SAM bring tears of joy to our eyes....

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Sam Lowree wrote:
First it was Gérard Depardieu, a very good actor, leaving France because of the insane tax rate imposed by the Leftist Hollande imposed a 75% tax on the wealthy in France. Now former French President Sarkozy is leaving France as well. The former president is now taking up residence in London due to the excessive taxation in France. Good job Lefties.
We saw Apple move high profit sectors of the company out of California to avoid taxes........

Gates moved a large portion of research for Microsoft here in Mexico to shift profits to and avoid taxes.......

These are the liberal giants escaping liberal taxes.......

Gates
Jobs
Buffett
Oprah
Ellis
Seible
Rubenstein

All have shifted billions of dollars here to avoid moron/liberal taxes......

As taxes go up revenue falls.........

But moron/liberals are so stupid they dont even care about revenue........For them taxes is nothing but punishing people for being more successful than them.....

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Even at 75% the French tax rates on the well-to-do are considerably lower than they were in the US at a time when the US economy was expanding at a blistering rate, the American middle class and our infrastructure became the envy of the world...
Your sycophantic post will no doubt bring a smile to the faces of the poor Koch brothers and bring much needed joy to the Trumps of the world,...
Even HERE IS ONE and I are touched by your burning desire to keep our taxes low....
We play while well trained people like you toil from sun up to sun down and sacrifice your progeny's future just so those of us who can afford to pay higher taxes do not have to do so, leaving it up to concerned and kindly individuals like you to pay for our roads,bridges, schools, national parks and everything else that makes America great.....
Nice people like you SAM bring tears of joy to our eyes....
Grumpy you have been schooled on your stupidity 100s of times and you still dont get it.....

Yes there was a time when the USA had higher taxes.........
There was also a time when the USA had slaves

Today neither is a option.....

When taxes were high there was no other option for US business.........They were not moving to China or Germany.....

Today is a global market.......the USA must compete for the jobs and investments......

Canada lowered its taxes on business and unemployment went down......

Here in Mexico they count every unemployed person unlike the USA
Real unemployment in the USA is around 23%
Real unemployment here is around 5%

If you are willing to create enough jobs Mexico will allow you up to 20 years tax free like California gave Amazon 1 year tax free to keep the jobs....

Morons/liberals dont understand that if the USA is going to have jobs and investments they must be competitive......

Revenue to the IRS has fallen every year that oslama the economy slayer has been in office......
No matter how much they raise taxes the revenue will continue to fall....

The USA is doomed until oslama leaves office.....
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Grumpy you have been schooled on your stupidity 100s of times and you still dont get it.....
Yes there was a time when the USA had higher taxes.........
There was also a time when the USA had slaves
Today neither is a option.....
When taxes were high there was no other option for US business.........They were not moving to China or Germany.....
Today is a global market.......the USA must compete for the jobs and investments......
Canada lowered its taxes on business and unemployment went down......
Here in Mexico they count every unemployed person unlike the USA
Real unemployment in the USA is around 23%
Real unemployment here is around 5%
If you are willing to create enough jobs Mexico will allow you up to 20 years tax free like California gave Amazon 1 year tax free to keep the jobs....
Morons/liberals dont understand that if the USA is going to have jobs and investments they must be competitive......
Revenue to the IRS has fallen every year that oslama the economy slayer has been in office......
No matter how much they raise taxes the revenue will continue to fall....
The USA is doomed until oslama leaves office.....
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You are the one who has been schooled on your stupidity and will continue to be schooled by life even in spite of yourself...

Just as I told you a year or two ago, more and more civilized countries around the world are starting to crack down on tax cheats from the US, be they multinationals trying to eke a tax advantage or private individuals, Great Britain and Australia are the latest examples...

The workers around the world are starting to wise up and are organizing and fighting for higher wages, benefits and safer working conditions...

It is getting to the point to where many US companies no longer have much of a competitive advantage by operating in countries like China

Most Mexicans don't have the life style of Puerto Vallartans and the time is rapidly approaching where most Mexicans will get tired of living like Mexicans and will start demanding decent wages and better opportunities for their kids, and then we will see what will happen to the rich Mexican's taxes....LMAO

Income taxes in the US are the lowest they have been in 60 years, the only reason the IRS collected less money since President OBAMA has been in office is Because Bush.w tanked the US economy into the deepest ditch since THE GREAT DEPRESSION....

Watch as the IRS receipts rise sky high during the next 4 years....LMAO

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You are the one who has been schooled on your stupidity and will continue to be schooled by life even in spite of yourself...
Just as I told you a year or two ago, more and more civilized countries around the world are starting to crack down on tax cheats from the US, be they multinationals trying to eke a tax advantage or private individuals, Great Britain and Australia are the latest examples...
The workers around the world are starting to wise up and are organizing and fighting for higher wages, benefits and safer working conditions...
It is getting to the point to where many US companies no longer have much of a competitive advantage by operating in countries like China
Most Mexicans don't have the life style of Puerto Vallartans and the time is rapidly approaching where most Mexicans will get tired of living like Mexicans and will start demanding decent wages and better opportunities for their kids, and then we will see what will happen to the rich Mexican's taxes....LMAO
Income taxes in the US are the lowest they have been in 60 years, the only reason the IRS collected less money since President OBAMA has been in office is Because Bush.w tanked the US economy into the deepest ditch since THE GREAT DEPRESSION....
Watch as the IRS receipts rise sky high during the next 4 years....LMAO
spin spin spin..........LOL

Are you that stupid you dont understand that taking after tax money and investing it overseas like oslama does is not tax cheating???

The revenue has fell every year..........The revenue has been falling in California for many years.....

The revenue will continue to fall for the next four years.........
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spin spin spin..........LOL
Are you that stupid you dont understand that taking after tax money and investing it overseas like oslama does is not tax cheating???
The revenue has fell every year..........The revenue has been falling in California for many years.....
The revenue will continue to fall for the next four years.........
And the beat goes on....more need for tax revenue.....less tax revenue generated......higher taxes........less jobs, less revenue generated...more need for tax revenue....higher taxes.....less jobs, less revenue generated........more need for tax revenue..........higher taxes..........

The former U.S.S.R. went through the same process, and then their system evenutally collapsed.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money"

They just don't get it.

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And the beat goes on....more need for tax revenue.....less tax revenue generated......higher taxes........less jobs, less revenue generated...more need for tax revenue....higher taxes.....less jobs, less revenue generated........more need for tax revenue..........higher taxes..........
The former U.S.S.R. went through the same process, and then their system evenutally collapsed.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money"
They just don't get it.
Greece, Spain, France all did the same.......

More proof that only the stupid and poor vote liberal/moron

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Even at 75% the French tax rates on the well-to-do are considerably lower than they were in the US at a time when the US economy was expanding at a blistering rate, the American middle class and our infrastructure became the envy of the world...
I guess you are one of those old dogs that cannot be taught anything new. I showed you previously that even though we higher taxes the effective tax rate was much lower than the tax rate. In other words, when there was a 90% tax rate NOBODY paid 90% income tax. There were a myriad of deductions that the wealthy used to lower their tax rate. No one in their right mind would sit still and pay 90% of their earnings to the government, that is the definition of insanity. If you really believe that you are thicker than I thought you were previously. Don't just listen to MSNBC, do some actual reading. A good place to start would be the IRS.

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We saw Apple move high profit sectors of the company out of California to avoid taxes........
Gates moved a large portion of research for Microsoft here in Mexico to shift profits to and avoid taxes.......
These are the liberal giants escaping liberal taxes.......
Gates
Jobs
Buffett
Oprah
Ellis
Seible
Rubenstein
All have shifted billions of dollars here to avoid moron/liberal taxes......
As taxes go up revenue falls.........
But moron/liberals are so stupid they dont even care about revenue........For them taxes is nothing but punishing people for being more successful than them.....
Yes of course. All the wealthy libs use all the tax deductions that are available and they move themselves or their money where they need to. It seems only the "useful idiots" like Comrade and TP believe the Liberal elites and their talking points.

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<quoted text>Yes of course. All the wealthy libs use all the tax deductions that are available and they move themselves or their money where they need to. It seems only the "useful idiots" like Comrade and TP believe the Liberal elites and their talking points.
They are people with no money....
So of course the want 90 percent tax on everyone with more money than them
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spin spin spin..........LOL
Are you that stupid you dont understand that taking after tax money and investing it overseas like oslama does is not tax cheating???
The revenue has fell every year..........The revenue has been falling in California for many years.....
The revenue will continue to fall for the next four years.........
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You are going to have to explain your theory to all those countries who are cracking down on those who are "investing it overseas..."

You better save this post of yours because pretty soon you will be saying "I never said the revenue will continue to fall for the next four years..." ROTFLMAO
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I guess you are one of those old dogs that cannot be taught anything new. I showed you previously that even though we higher taxes the effective tax rate was much lower than the tax rate. In other words, when there was a 90% tax rate NOBODY paid 90% income tax. There were a myriad of deductions that the wealthy used to lower their tax rate. No one in their right mind would sit still and pay 90% of their earnings to the government, that is the definition of insanity. If you really believe that you are thicker than I thought you were previously. Don't just listen to MSNBC, do some actual reading. A good place to start would be the IRS.
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Many people also showed you that whenever tax rates on the wealthy were high the economy grew at an unprecedented rate which has been unequaled since, and the middle class flourished and grew like weeds...

If what you say is true than why are you all objecting so much to restoring our tax system to the pre Reagan era deductions and rates....???

Speaking of the IRS, your "thick twin" HERE IS ONE claims that when tax rates on the wealthy are high IRS receipts go low, but he has never been able to produce IRS figures reflecting that for the golden decades when marginal rates on the wealthy were 90+%....

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You are going to have to explain your theory to all those countries who are cracking down on those who are "investing it overseas..."

You better save this post of yours because pretty soon you will be saying "I never said the revenue will continue to fall for the next four years..." ROTFLMAO
Oslama is invested overseas........

How about Bank of America???

They are not going to invest overseas??

Microsoft will not be allowed to keep expanding here???

Americans will not be allowed to buy foreign stocks???

Zenith is not going to be able to build a new plant in China??

Are you really that stupid??

Please save that post..........because I am saving this post..........ROTFLMAO
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Yes of course. All the wealthy libs use all the tax deductions that are available and they move themselves or their money where they need to. It seems only the "useful idiots" like Comrade and TP believe the Liberal elites and their talking points.
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Right!

You just keep on believing that the only reason companies and individuals relocate from one locale to another or to some resort is just on account of taxes....

Many wealthy people have houses and villas in resorts all over the world, what the hell does that have to do with taxes other than someone managed to plan that idea in the vacuum between your ears....?

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Many people also showed you that whenever tax rates on the wealthy were high the economy grew at an unprecedented rate which has been unequaled since, and the middle class flourished and grew like weeds...

If what you say is true than why are you all objecting so much to restoring our tax system to the pre Reagan era deductions and rates....???

Speaking of the IRS, your "thick twin" HERE IS ONE claims that when tax rates on the wealthy are high IRS receipts go low, but he has never been able to produce IRS figures reflecting that for the golden decades when marginal rates on the wealthy were 90+%....
Are you really that stupid that you don't understand that many different things effect the economy and giving credit for swings on one specific factor is moronic??
Factors like no jobs were being exported..........
No dollars were being spent in China?

Yes the IRS data did show tax revenues from conception to the date of the report..........LOL
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Oslama is invested overseas........
How about Bank of America???
They are not going to invest overseas??
Microsoft will not be allowed to keep expanding here???
Americans will not be allowed to buy foreign stocks???
Zenith is not going to be able to build a new plant in China??
Are you really that stupid??
Please save that post..........because I am saving this post..........ROTFLMAO
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Yes, you better save this post....ROTFLMAO

because it shows you are so stupid you do not know the difference between someone who invests in foreign or international funds versus crooked companies and individuals who attempt to game several tax systems to cheat countries out of their due taxes...

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Right!

You just keep on believing that the only reason companies and individuals relocate from one locale to another or to some resort is just on account of taxes....

Many wealthy people have houses and villas in resorts all over the world, what the hell does that have to do with taxes other than someone managed to plan that idea in the vacuum between your ears....?
Apple proudly admitted in their annual report that moving to Nevada would save them billions in taxes......

Villas??
Gates was one of the investors in Punta De Mita
They own boutique hotels and 100,000 sgf rental properties that they sell and build a new one
Golf courses
Shopping centers
Schools
Air ports
Resorts
A dam
Farms
And manufacturing plants

Why do you open your mouth and say things like this??
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Are you really that stupid that you don't understand that many different things effect the economy and giving credit for swings on one specific factor is moronic??
Factors like no jobs were being exported..........
No dollars were being spent in China?
Yes the IRS data did show tax revenues from conception to the date of the report..........LOL
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Talk about giving credit to one specific factor, aren't you guys the morons who are constantly intoning the mantra that lowering taxes on the wealthy will generate jobs in the USA....??? LMAO

But you never posted the data just for the decades in question .... LOL
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Apple proudly admitted in their annual report that moving to Nevada would save them billions in taxes......
Villas??
Gates was one of the investors in Punta De Mita
They own boutique hotels and 100,000 sgf rental properties that they sell and build a new one
Golf courses
Shopping centers
Schools
Air ports
Resorts
A dam
Farms
And manufacturing plants
Why do you open your mouth and say things like this??
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That is a good question, why do you open your mouth and say things like this...?

Are you trying to tell us that Gates invested in Punta De Mita or that Mac Donald's open stores in China and Russia or Ophra bought a villa somewhere in Mexico that they all do it just because of taxes...????? LMAO

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