We live in a plutocracy and it's time...

We live in a plutocracy and it's time to complete the American Revolution

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Not a plutocrat

Sacramento, CA

#1 Mar 5, 2013
Following the imposition of a plutocratic Constitution on American citizens, there have been continual uprisings by enlightened elements of the working class in America because they have recognized that the nation suffers under an oppressive capitalist class.

http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
annoyed

United States

#2 Mar 6, 2013
Not a plutocrat wrote:
Following the imposition of a plutocratic Constitution on American citizens, there have been continual uprisings by enlightened elements of the working class in America because they have recognized that the nation suffers under an oppressive capitalist class.
http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
I made it through about half. It seems like a hit piece by the communist party, full of unsubstantiated statements and conjecture. By twisting it one way or another you could make it cough up anything you wish.

One has to wonder what someone hoped to accomplish with such.

I'd not reccomend it to anyone.
Oh ma -Gawd

Sacramento, CA

#3 Mar 7, 2013
annoyed wrote:
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I made it through about half. It seems like a hit piece by the communist party, full of unsubstantiated statements and conjecture. By twisting it one way or another you could make it cough up anything you wish.
One has to wonder what someone hoped to accomplish with such.
I'd not reccomend it to anyone.
I think the link draws an excellent parallel with our current political/economic direction this country is going.

As the plutocracy accumulates more wealth and power in this country it forces the rest of us to make the decision, do we wants to be slaves or socialists or have a revolution.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#4 Mar 7, 2013
Oh ma -Gawd wrote:
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I think the link draws an excellent parallel with our current political/economic direction this country is going.
As the plutocracy accumulates more wealth and power in this country it forces the rest of us to make the decision, do we wants to be slaves or socialists or have a revolution.
My, my. revolution? you are becoming a violent little leftist, heh?

The only real freedom comes with financial freedom.
When you are not dependent upon anyone financially(including the state), you are free to do what you want.

Middle class America is losing ground in the struggle to become financially independent.....and why?
Higher everyday costs, higher taxes and a huge drop in purchasing power under the auspices of the obama regime.

You claim to be an advocate for the average American, but everything you say and do enslaves middle class America more and more...just like....well......just like obama.
Tea Party Solution

United States

#5 Mar 7, 2013
Local wrote:
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The only real freedom comes with financial freedom.
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Another simpleton statement from a simpleton mind. What about our freedom to vote, our freedom of speech, our freedom to own arms?

And regarding financial freedom-- our jobs, 401K's, home values, and financial security was devastated by the Wall Street meltdown of 5 years ago. Even those who had NO money in the stock market found their lives decimated. So where was their 'financial freedom'?

To New Readers:
Local, aka Loco and Local Idiot, is a staunch rightwing nut who repeatedly lies and ignores facts. He's a typical Obama-hating rightie who's political information comes solely from the delusional rightwing bubble. He won't/ can't actually respond to points that are made. In his delusional world you are either an Obama-hater or an Obama-lover.

Local's simpleton mind has no room for nuance, facts, or honest conversation.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#6 Mar 7, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Another simpleton statement from a simpleton mind. What about our freedom to vote, our freedom of speech, our freedom to own arms?
And regarding financial freedom-- our jobs, 401K's, home values, and financial security was devastated by the Wall Street meltdown of 5 years ago. Even those who had NO money in the stock market found their lives decimated. So where was their 'financial freedom'?
Those freedoms are guaranteed by the constitution...unless you libtards get your way in the future.

The socialist who began the thread is talking about money.

Not to quick on the uptake, are you?

oh, and the foreclosure meltdown?

educate yourself:
Foreclosed: Blame Bill Clintonís Repeal of Glass-Steagall

"With the stroke of a pen, Bill Clinton ended an era that stretched back to William Jennings Bryan and Woodrow Wilson and reached fruition with FDR and Harry Truman. As he signed his name, in the whorls and dots of his pen strokes William Jefferson Clinton was also symbolically signing the death warrant of Liberal America and its core belief in the level playing field that had guided the Democratic Party. But it was the gift of the pen to Sanford Weill and its assuming an honored place on the Wall of Me that rubbed salt in the wound.In his famous First Inaugural Roosevelt pointedly asserted:
"Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men."
Not a plutocrat

Lincoln, CA

#7 Mar 8, 2013
Local wrote:
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Those freedoms are guaranteed by the constitution...unless you libtards get your way in the future.
The socialist who began the thread is talking about money.
Not to quick on the uptake, are you?
oh, and the foreclosure meltdown?
educate yourself:
Foreclosed: Blame Bill Clintonís Repeal of Glass-Steagall
"With the stroke of a pen, Bill Clinton ended an era that stretched back to William Jennings Bryan and Woodrow Wilson and reached fruition with FDR and Harry Truman. As he signed his name, in the whorls and dots of his pen strokes William Jefferson Clinton was also symbolically signing the death warrant of Liberal America and its core belief in the level playing field that had guided the Democratic Party. But it was the gift of the pen to Sanford Weill and its assuming an honored place on the Wall of Me that rubbed salt in the wound.In his famous First Inaugural Roosevelt pointedly asserted:
"Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men."
Thank you for showing everyone just how biased you are and how you don't care about the whole truth.

Only a moron would expect people who understand how our government works to accept your premise that the President can enact legislation all by himself.

Hey shitforbrains, congress initiated and sent the bill to Clinton who was being held hostage over zipper -gate was forced to sign said legislation.

You repubicans can try butt you can't change history or the facts.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#8 Mar 8, 2013
Not a plutocrat wrote:
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Thank you for showing everyone just how biased you are and how you don't care about the whole truth.
expect people who understand how our government works to accept your premise that the President can enact legislation all by himself.
.
You are a liar.

Casual readers.
This link will provide a list of obama's executive orders. There was no congressional vote on these actions/changes in policy legislation.....obama did them by presidential executive order.....there are hundreds of them.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presi...
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#9 Mar 8, 2013
The leftists want to change America in a very fundamental way.
They shout about free rides via government handouts, but beware.....someone WILL pay for all of this government taxing, spending, and borrowing.

Oh ya......America will pay.......dearly.

How'd did you like obama's payroll tax hike?
It is just the beginning. Obamacare tax hikes haven't really kicked in yet.

And the national debt?
Near $17 trillion and counting up.
The federal reserve debt balance?
Over $3 trillion (unprecedented).
Yep. Bernanke is spending $85 billion per month buying U.S. government debt.....and why?

It is an intentional effort to devalue the U.S. dollar.
Basically printing money and avoiding the process with which the constitution was designed.
There is no legislative action controlling this unprecedented printing of dollars.
It is out of anyone's control.....except perhaps the pres.........but he won't do anything.......it is probably his idea.
Oh ma -Gwd

Lincoln, CA

#10 Mar 9, 2013
Local wrote:
The leftists want to change America in a very fundamental way.
They shout about free rides via government handouts, but beware.....someone WILL pay for all of this government taxing, spending, and borrowing.
Oh ya......America will pay.......dearly.
How'd did you like obama's payroll tax hike?
It is just the beginning. Obamacare tax hikes haven't really kicked in yet.
And the national debt?
Near $17 trillion and counting up.
The federal reserve debt balance?
Over $3 trillion (unprecedented).
Yep. Bernanke is spending $85 billion per month buying U.S. government debt.....and why?
It is an intentional effort to devalue the U.S. dollar.
Basically printing money and avoiding the process with which the constitution was designed.
There is no legislative action controlling this unprecedented printing of dollars.
It is out of anyone's control.....except perhaps the pres.........but he won't do anything.......it is probably his idea.
You're so funny! The tax cuts never would have ended if the righties would have done their job.

Thanks for showing us all how ignorant you are.

Could you please show us all where in the constitution where it says the President can enact legislation without the house and senate authorizing said legislation.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#11 Mar 10, 2013
different screen names, same nonsense, same moron.

wtf happened to you. Brain damage from an accident?
TWP

Anna, TX

#12 Mar 10, 2013
Local wrote:
different screen names, same nonsense, same moron.
wtf happened to you. Brain damage from an accident?
Old "Bob the Nob" went a little "crazy in the head" when his beard/wife lost her do nothing job with the County and his Democrat Puppet Masters in Sacramento had enough of his scorched earth dirty politics and told their "Useful Idiot" to take a hike...

So for the past couple of years he literally has had nothing else to do "butt" make up imaginary screen characters like "GRANDPA NICOLAI", Tea Party Solution, Curtain Rod, DoorgunnerSoHum and Middle of the Roa d (et al...) and spread his neurotic, venomous hate around various Internet Chat forums like TOPIX...

"Butt" the most pathetic part about a grown man trying to live out his life vicariously through imaginary personas is the fact that he is a really BAD actor and he hasn't fooled ANYBODY with his pretending to be all these different people...

I mean... doesn't it just seem a LITTLE odd that every single Liberal Democrat on the Chico TOPIX forum is a Millionaire...?

And doesn't it seem odd that every single one of these "Rich" Liberal Democrat "Millionaires" are also National Socialist Radicals who hate the "Rich" and want Civil War between the Democrats and the "Repubicans" to Redistribute "THEIR" wealth to the poor, oppressed masses...?

And doesn't it seem odd that every single Liberal Democrat on the Chico TOPIX forum has a 6th. grade comprehension and spelling level and constantly misspells EXACTLY the same words over and over again and again...?

I mean... there are obviously SOME fringe/wacko Liberal Democrats out there who believe this nonsense...

"Butt" the odds of them ALL showing up on ONE Internet Chat forum just defies the odds of reality...!

No... old "Bob the Nob" accounts the vast majority of the fringe/wacko Liberal Democrat nonsense posted on the Chico TOPIX forum...

Not all... "butt" most...!

He really does seem to have lost all sense of dignity and honor...

And then hiding behind all these silly screen names and then, having to constantly deny that he does...

Old "Bob the Nob" really is one sorry excuse for a man...!

"I believe in the P.T. Barnum strategy: if you want to draw a crowd, start a fight. I love fights..."

http://www.merrystandish.com/dolanloses.html
Godfrey

Oroville, CA

#14 Mar 10, 2013
Not a plutocrat wrote:
Following the imposition of a plutocratic Constitution on American citizens, there have been continual uprisings by enlightened elements of the working class in America because they have recognized that the nation suffers under an oppressive capitalist class.
http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
I bet you eat Cheerios one at a time. Don't make me come back here.
Oh ma -Gwd

Lincoln, CA

#15 Mar 10, 2013
Godfrey wrote:
<quoted text> I bet you eat Cheerios one at a time. Don't make me come back here.
Goofy, is that you? Good to see you're out of that mental hospital.
Oh ma -Gawd

Sacramento, CA

#16 Mar 11, 2013
Local wrote:
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You are a liar.
Casual readers.
This link will provide a list of obama's executive orders. There was no congressional vote on these actions/changes in policy legislation.....obama did them by presidential executive order.....there are hundreds of them.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presi...
Thanks for showing everyone once again what an idiot you are. Now before you respond with more of your stupidity I suggest you read up on the difference between laws passed by the legislature and administering regulations by executive order.

Iíll give you a little hint ya moron: If Obama could have raised the tax rate for the top 1 -2% without the legislature agreeing to the law/change first, donít ya think heíd have done so.

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