Feds indict 4 in peanut butter salmonella outbreak
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#1 Feb 21, 2013
And business owners, corporations and repubicans in general whine about to many regulations. Without regulations there would be one hell of a lot more deaths in the U.S. caused by scum like those charged in this suit.
#2 Feb 21, 2013
Using your dumb logic....all democratic politicians must be lying cheating, stealing morons,
Jesse Jackson Jr. going to jail for felony
By agreeing to plead guilty to a single felony count, Jackson could serve up to five years in prison. The judge, however, may decide to sentence him with probation instead of jail time. The former congressman has also agreed to repay hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign funds, misspent over four years on things like redecorating his home and a $40,000 Rolex he bought for a female friend.
As part of the agreement, the government demanded that Jackson give up his congressional seat, which he did in November, just a little more than two weeks after easily winning re-election.
and btw, where were those highly paid government inspectors leading up to the outbreak???
Having donuts and coffee?
#3 Feb 26, 2013
Let me try this one more time! You repubicans don't like rules, regulations or laws, unless they apply to democrats only.
My point is that without rules, regulations or laws more people would be dead from faulty products and less people would be in jail for transgressions against the pubic at large.
Where were the inspectors, the fed, due to budget cuts had contracted out the inspections to the state.
Don't like taxes, you don't get what you don't pay for.
#5 Feb 28, 2013
What you say about corporate filth is 100% true. Without inspections and laws it would be another china right here at home where feeding things like melamine to our children and pets is just another part of doing business.
Don't think that applies here??? Remember, not that long ago, when Ford Motor executives decided it would be OK if a few pintos burned up and incinerated their occupants, as long as ford made the most profit??
But, although corporate profits were involved, I don't know these were all republicans. It isn't just your political party that counts but what kind of a person you are inside and how far your pain, grief, greed and fear has taken you from the path you know is true.
#6 Feb 28, 2013
No it isn't just repubicans. And yes I do use a broad brush. I'm 67 years old and it's been my life experience that the majority of farmers, corporate executives and business owners are righties. Not all, butt a majority.
On my moms side, I come from a central Caulifornia farming family and they're ALL repubicans.
#7 Mar 1, 2013
It sounds as though you are a mean, lonely old fool who cannot stomach most of America, inlcuding your own family.
Lots of luck with that.
#8 Mar 1, 2013
Thank gawd there are rules/regulations! Without them repubicans would have you eating manure mixed in with your ground beef.
Horsemeat found in Taco Bell UK beef in latest tests.
#9 Mar 1, 2013
The "righties" you mention are people who have dedicated their lives to the goal of becoming successful and have well developed instincts for gravitating toward ideas which advance their chances of success and avoiding impediments. The choice of a political party is a no-brainer for such a person, providing this person is unwilling or unable to view or consider a "larger" picture outside the bounds of his or her's money making/income track. This reflects on the reasons to insist on liberal arts requirements in universities.
The almost unqualified support of the business model by republicans wasn't always the case, they used to be called the party of the people; how people and fortunes change:(
#10 Mar 1, 2013
They've dedicated their lives to the perpetuation of the transfer/consolidation of wealth into the hands of a few in this country. If they truly gave a crap they'd be a 501-C3.
#11 Mar 2, 2013
Upon reflection one can see how the cutthroat capitalist was a necessity and boon to a growing country in compitition with other expanding states. But in modern times one can see how the capitalist, now operating on an international scale, sees little profit in promoting a single country's progress (such as the U.S.) when more money may be made by promoting say....China, or India, or South Korea, etc. This, I believe, is the road map to the diminuation of our country drawn by business and political leaders.
These "leaders" still see the U.S. as some huge competitive business/war corporation type machine when it's LONG past the time when we should have reformed the U.S. back into "the land of the free and home of the brave" it was meant to be; homes, benefits, and the good life...not just for the 1%.
I see nothing wrong with some people ammasing millions or billions, but I do object when their out of control greed (class warfare) begins diminishing the lives and futures of everyone else. This objection doesn't make me a democrat or republican but instead makes me just as angry as anyone feels when they're being cheated, as we all are. Unfortunatly for us, the republican party and their wealthy donors felt backed into a corner by the people and their unions so decided to buy politicians. And, of course, the dems have their own "favorite" politicians (and if the SUPREME court of the land isn't a sad joke, I don't know what else to call it).
It's time we stopped being the country of "stupid."
#12 Mar 2, 2013
Whatever happened to "an honest days pay for an honest days work"?
And I ask: why does every other industrial country in the world (and some 2nd and 3rd world countries) have single payer healthcare?
#14 Mar 4, 2013
You are too stupid to understand most of what you are talking about.
The "load" or cost of an employee is typically 50% or more than they make......not including benefits.(i.e. health insurance/ company pension
If a worker makes $25.00 per hour, it costs the employer nearly $40.00 per hour due to added governmental mandates.
If you add in health insurance and a company pension, the "load" easily doubles.
Workers in the U.S. continue to give an "honest days work", and the employers are paying out an honest days pay, but somehow, much of the honest days pay has been distributed away from their paychecks.
Why do you think that is so?
#15 Mar 4, 2013
Oh, ya. Here is the link that backs up my last statement.
I was being very conservative in my estimate.
"The costs to this point (basic salary, employment taxes and benefits) are typically in the 1.25 to 1.4 times base salary range- e.g. the cost range for a $50,000/year employee might $62,500 to $70,000."
#17 Mar 4, 2013
Hiring employees is a significant investment that must be justified by confidence in the future business environment.
Due to inept federal management of the economy, the confidence is simply not there. Too many unknowns......too many reasons to "sit tight" and wait to see what happens next......what will be the next federal crisis be.........how will it be handled.......whom will get whacked...and how badly will they be penalized by incompetent federal spending.
The obama whitehouse has set the stage for skepticism and doubt in the business world........and they wonder why businesses are not hiring?....and then the liberals demand that businesses hire?
It's not gonna happen as there are NO guarantees of making a buck when you are in business........it is simply not worth the risk in this economy......they would sooner move to a more stable business environment.....but that's another subject/thread.
#19 Mar 4, 2013
The possibility of becoming financially independent is the REASON why people go into business. If you remove that possibility, why would anyone risk all that they have? Small businesses are folding up everywhere as they are the most vulnerable to over regulation and high taxation/fees. They simply do not have the resources(wealth) to weather this storm......and liberals wonder why the unemployment rate is stuck so high?
Jeez......this isn't rocket science....it is common sense.
#21 Mar 4, 2013
Well, the trolls have invaded this site so it's now time to move on.
#22 Mar 4, 2013
When faced with common sense and logic, you head for the hills with your tail between your legs. CYA
run forrest, run!!
#23 Mar 4, 2013
Isn't it a shame that old Road Toa d can't tell us anything about his Fathers lineage...
Well... I guess one would have to know who there Father WAS before they could know anything about him...
"Butt" old Road Toa d doesn't have any idea who his Father was...
Poor old Road Toa d...
Such a sorry pathetic bastard...!
#24 Mar 4, 2013
Now isn't that an interesting coincidence...
Who else is 67 years old and hates "Repubicans"...
Isn't it funny how all these "coincidences" seem to keep popping up...?
Right Road Toa d...?
#25 Mar 4, 2013
Wow...you really do have his number.
The ole socialist pos has gone from a state leadership position to lying on topix threads.
Mens room walls?
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