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Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#57 Mar 15, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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It's so stupid of you to continue this argument about the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
The dem Clinton signed this bill-- which was brought to him by repub congressmen. It had little dem support in congress. It was a repub bill. The repubs owned the congress at the time and they threatened to override his veto.
Still, I'll give mutual blame to both-- the repubs and to the dem, Clinton.
But you can't do that. You want to blame only Clinton, conveniently ignoring the fact that a president can't sign a bill unless ist's presented to him.
That is why Clinton had a veto. Most bills will not ever get to the pres. if there is a chance of a veto. The fact is, that Clinton actually triangulated/brokered the deal....he actually lobbied FOR the bill.

Clinton was (singularly) the one and only individual who had the power to stop that bill.......but he didn't, and the worlds's economy was brought to its knees.

So you can go ahead and blame other individuals who might have stepped up to the plate, but the facts are killing you, aren't they? None of them had the power of the veto.

Clinton (the most powerful man in the world at the time) screwed the pooch and signed the bill into law.
Deal with it.

I feel NO obligation to address all of your points, as they are mostly off topic, obtuse and wander away from the subject matter..... just like this one did. If you want honest conversation, stop inserting ideological cheap shots into your rants and stay on topic.

You are becoming a legend in your own mind.

wise up.

To new readers;
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Anyone reading his posts should check and verify any of his so called facts. The fact that he uses the term “tea party” in his name exemplifies his patently dishonest nature and his disingenuous persona.
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Tea Party Solution

United States

#58 Mar 15, 2013
Local wrote:
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That is why Clinton had a veto. Most bills will not ever get to the pres. if there is a chance of a veto. The fact is, that Clinton actually triangulated/brokered the deal....he actually lobbied FOR the bill.
Clinton was (singularly) the one and only individual who had the power to stop that bill.......Deal with it.
It takes two to tango, even in your dreams. No bill sent to Clinton, no bill to sign. The dems were largely against the bill. Repubs passed it. You CAN'T deal with it, for some reason that I can't explain.

BTW, you must hate those repubs who are trying to get rid of the new regulations the dems passed to stop another meltdown from happening again. You must be FOR laws to keep us from another financial catastrophe, right? Just like you loved Glass/Steagall... right?

BTW. the original Glass/Steagall bill came from the dems, when that commie FDR was president. So you love dems and commies?

What a hypocrite you are. Funny thing is that you can't even get it.

To New Readers:
Local, aka Loco and Local Idiot, is a staunch rightwing nut who repeatedly lies and ignores facts. He's a typical Obama-hating rightie who's political information comes solely from the delusional rightwing bubble. He won't/ can't actually respond to points that are made. In his delusional world you are either an Obama-hater or an Obama-lover.

Local's simpleton mind has no room for nuance, facts, or honest conversation.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#60 Mar 17, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
What brought down Europe is the same thing that brought down the U.S.-- the de-regulated, high-stakes gambling on sub-prime loans on Wall Street. This bubble collapse began the fall of the world's economy.
Each European nation has a different story, but sure there was much wasteful spending, corporate cronyism, etc., etc., going on which made the collapse even worst.
Interestingly, it's the democratic/ socialist nations such as Sweden and the Netherlands which have done much better through the Great Recession. These are smart, mature countries where the political parties work together, and plan things in advance.
But austerity is what's now going on in Europe--NOT Keynesian economics. "All in all, between January 2010 and January 2013, pensions and public Economists can argue about the specific policies that may have hurt more than helped-- especially the across-the-board tax increases on EVERYONE, not just on the super-rich. But Greece IS cutting their spending dramatically, including pensions and public employees losing 20%, and their unemployment has soared.
Yup...Greece practice keynesian economics until they ran out of other people's money.........and now, the remainder of the Euro-block is lending them money to keep them afloat....because they must......not because they think it is economically prudent.

Germany warns of 'bottomless pit' in Greece
http://www.thelocal.de/money/20120215-40755.h...

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

lolol

Forgive, I do not enjoy beating you up with facts......but you asked for it.......because you actually do "get it",.... you are simply a manipulative liar.

Have a nice day.

To new readers;
The poster named “Tea Party Solution” is not a member of the tea party. He has been proven to be a liar and a coward who will spin information to fit his true ideology…..a radical left wing progressive.
Anyone reading his posts should check and verify any of his so called facts. The fact that he uses the term “tea party” in his name exemplifies his patently dishonest nature and his disingenuous persona.
Readers beware of any information provided by the poster “Tea Party Solution”.
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#61 Mar 17, 2013
Local wrote:
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Yup...Greece practice keynesian economics until they ran out of other people's money...
You throw around terms such as 'keynesian economics' without even knowing what it means.

Keynes said in 1937, during the Great Depression, "“The boom, not the slump, is the right time for austerity at the Treasury.” Keynes' economic theory emphasized how we should act during recessions and depressions.
During the booms we should have more austerity, NOT during the recessions.

Most euro countries, including Greece, did NOT become more austere during the booming early 2000's.

And the Bush administration during that time period did NOT become more austere-- just the opposite.

So, few countries practiced keynesian economics then-- and none are practicing keynesian economics NOW, during this recession.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#62 Mar 17, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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You throw around terms such as 'keynesian economics' without even knowing what it means.
So, few countries practiced keynesian economics then-- and none are practicing keynesian economics NOW, during this recession.
You're a liar, yet again....but don't take my word for it.

Obama and Keynesian Economics
Although several G-20 member countries dissented from Obama’s Keynesian fervor, the Obama administration pushed ahead, raising government expenditures from an average of 19%-20% during the Bush era to an average of 25% in 2009-2010, and the federal deficit from an average 2%-3% to 10%-13%.
http://economicscafe.wordpress.com/2011/02/17...

or
Barack Obama’s Keynesian Mistake
Unfortunately, President Obama has proposed no long-run fiscal reforms, It is not clear whether his Keynesian beliefs or political factors are the main driver for the ongoing stimulus plan. But as Harvard University’s Robert Barro noted in disapproval of the stimulus plan, just because the economy is in crisis, it does “not invalidate everything we have learned about macroeconomics since 1936.”

or

Obamanomics: The Final Nail In the Discredited Keynesian Coffin

Keynesian economics is the false vision of human action which says the way to promote economic recovery and renewed growth is through increased government spending, deficits and debt. If that sounds nuts, that’s because it is.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...

Do you wake up a total moron, or does your moronic condition worsen as the day wears on?

To new readers;
The poster named “Tea Party Solution” is not a member of the tea party. He has been proven to be a liar and a coward who will spin information to fit his true ideology…..a radical left wing progressive.
Anyone reading his posts should check and verify any of his so called facts. The fact that he uses the term “tea party” in his name exemplifies his patently dishonest nature and his disingenuous persona.
Readers beware of any information provided by the poster “Tea Party Solution”.
JerkOFFmexiCreep RadiOnes

United States

#63 Mar 18, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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That is typical for liberals.........
Starve people at home and blow money elsewhere..........
Bush gave IRAQ A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS in war support/expenditures plus BILLIONS per year there after to REBUILD THEIR SOCIETY! You know, something Repubs are very against like in Yugoslavia!

Then of course there is AFGANISTAN where BUSH spent another TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS and tied us to BILLIONS in Society REBUILDING free Money.

And of course let us not forget that BUSH BORROWED IT ALL from CHINA! Can you say RUNAWAY DEFICITS? Yeah we can and do attribute them to BUSH!

Let US NOT ALSO FORGET the DEATH OF THOUSANDS of our military HEROES and the MAIMING, both physically and MENTALLY of TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE whos healthcare and support we are RIGHTFULLY paying for or NOT!

Any questions TeaBagger Repubs?
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#65 Mar 19, 2013
Our country has performed MUCH better economically under Democratic administrations over the last 80 years. But our rightwingers of today ignore the facts.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/...

"Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents

Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)

Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)

Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents

The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations."

Bush Jr. grew our debt the most-- by far-- of any of our presidents over the last 30 years. His two terms is responsible for at least 42% of our debt. In fact, repub administrations are responsible for 2/3rds of our total debt.

Which president grew our debt the least, actually leaving the next president a deficit surplus? Bill Clinton.

“Facts”

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#66 Mar 19, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
Our country has performed MUCH better economically under Democratic administrations over the last 80 years. But our rightwingers of today ignore the facts.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/...
"Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations."
Bush Jr. grew our debt the most-- by far-- of any of our presidents over the last 30 years. His two terms is responsible for at least 42% of our debt. In fact, repub administrations are responsible for 2/3rds of our total debt.
Which president grew our debt the least, actually leaving the next president a deficit surplus? Bill Clinton.
Caught in another lie........

oslama is responsable for almost 50% of the total debt..........
Here is One Mexi Fup

United States

#67 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Caught in another lie........
oslama is responsable for almost 50% of the total debt..........
ALL Real AMERICANS thank you MEXI-f-up for self deporting. You, PERSONALLY have save US, REAL AMERICANS, Multiple MILLIONS of DOLLARS in your needed MENTAL HEALTHCARE and INCARCERATION COSTS!
WE are ALL truly thankful to you MexiFuc-UP.

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