Investigators bust 'mid-to-upper-leve...

Investigators bust 'mid-to-upper-level' drug operation

There are 7 comments on the Douglas County Sentinel story from Apr 13, 2013, titled Investigators bust 'mid-to-upper-level' drug operation. In it, Douglas County Sentinel reports that:

Local law enforcement investigators have taken down a 20-year-old Douglasville man accused of being a "mid-to-upper" level drug dealer, arresting 12 other suspects in the process and there could be more to come.

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“Yet another average white man.”

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#1 Apr 14, 2013
Gotta love this quote:

"I understand, but I had been calling to see if there were any warrants for me," Beltran said. "They kept telling me there wasn't. If there had been, I would have turned myself in."

I suppose if you call the police station to ask about warrants against you the expectation is that they are just another government office and they'll tell you all you need to know? Really now? I wonder if he really called. And if he did, isn't it possible that is exactly what put him on the radar to begin with?

Why are our crooks SO stupid around here?
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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#2 Apr 16, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
Gotta love this quote:
"I understand, but I had been calling to see if there were any warrants for me," Beltran said. "They kept telling me there wasn't. If there had been, I would have turned myself in."
I suppose if you call the police station to ask about warrants against you the expectation is that they are just another government office and they'll tell you all you need to know? Really now? I wonder if he really called. And if he did, isn't it possible that is exactly what put him on the radar to begin with?
Why are our crooks SO stupid around here?
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Actually they usually will cause the people who call are the people who will turn themselves in, they don't want to come get you and you would rather walk in, works out better for everyone involved.

“Yet another average white man.”

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#3 Apr 17, 2013
Robert wrote:
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Actually they usually will cause the people who call are the people who will turn themselves in, they don't want to come get you and you would rather walk in, works out better for everyone involved.

Doesn't matter what they "want". If you're a wanted criminal it's their job to go out and get you when they find out where you are. Calling in to ask IF you're wanted is a sure sign that if you aren't wanted now, you will be soon enough. I mean really, what kind of moron calls to see if their crimes have been realized yet? He's clearly admitting that he's been up to no good.

Another thing that's disgusting about this whole thing is how many young girls they had involved in it. One girl is 17 and has RICO charges. Who will ever give her a job? I know restaurants who won't go near anyone with organized crime charges.
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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#4 Apr 17, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
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Doesn't matter what they "want". If you're a wanted criminal it's their job to go out and get you when they find out where you are. Calling in to ask IF you're wanted is a sure sign that if you aren't wanted now, you will be soon enough. I mean really, what kind of moron calls to see if their crimes have been realized yet? He's clearly admitting that he's been up to no good.
Another thing that's disgusting about this whole thing is how many young girls they had involved in it. One girl is 17 and has RICO charges. Who will ever give her a job? I know restaurants who won't go near anyone with organized crime charges.
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It has to be that way, they need to charge her despite her age so they can force her to testify against the others.

Is a shame, another casualty of the war against drugs. Now we have to pay for her, she won't get a job and it is hard for a single person to get public assistance but when she has some kids she ought to be able to get section 8 housing and a snap debit card for us to pay for that is after we pay about 45,000 a year to house her while she is locked up. I am sure this will solve the drug problem, just because we have had a war against drugs for the last 40 years and it has not worked that is no reason to believe it won't work now is it. She should have moved to Colorado I guess.

I am sick of it I wish they would change the laws and worry about something else.

“Yet another average white man.”

Since: Jun 11

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#5 Apr 17, 2013
Robert wrote:
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It has to be that way, they need to charge her despite her age so they can force her to testify against the others.
Is a shame, another casualty of the war against drugs. Now we have to pay for her, she won't get a job and it is hard for a single person to get public assistance but when she has some kids she ought to be able to get section 8 housing and a snap debit card for us to pay for that is after we pay about 45,000 a year to house her while she is locked up. I am sure this will solve the drug problem, just because we have had a war against drugs for the last 40 years and it has not worked that is no reason to believe it won't work now is it. She should have moved to Colorado I guess.
I am sick of it I wish they would change the laws and worry about something else.

Agreed, the war on drugs is a failure. Elected officials who fail to deal with it should not be reelected. If the issue was actually put to a vote, I wonder how it would really go?
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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#6 Apr 17, 2013
Grob Hahn wrote:
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Agreed, the war on drugs is a failure. Elected officials who fail to deal with it should not be reelected. If the issue was actually put to a vote, I wonder how it would really go?
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It will eventually be that way, some states are starting to head that directions and some countries have done it as well. Spain for example, they have removed the penalties not just for smoking pot but for hard drugs as well. They say it is cheaper and better for society to treat it like a medical problem. I am sure doing drugs over there can still screw up someone life, they probably have employer drug testing just like we do in many places but should someone with a drug problem try to straiten themselves out they have a chance to.

“Yet another average white man.”

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#7 Apr 17, 2013
Robert wrote:
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It will eventually be that way, some states are starting to head that directions and some countries have done it as well. Spain for example, they have removed the penalties not just for smoking pot but for hard drugs as well. They say it is cheaper and better for society to treat it like a medical problem. I am sure doing drugs over there can still screw up someone life, they probably have employer drug testing just like we do in many places but should someone with a drug problem try to straiten themselves out they have a chance to.

That's the problem with our thinking on the issue. Yes, some people become addicts. lose control and become societal problems. But that isn't the case with everyone who uses drugs. Many addicts mind their own business and keep their habit entirely to themselves. Others can use drugs on occasion and put it down without it becoming an obsession. However, our current system treats everyone like they are hard core, out of control addicts.

It's similar to my gripe about retailers treating ALL people who walk through the door as a potential shoplifter even though MOST people don't steal. It's a powerful indication of how we have strayed in our faith in people overall. If MOST people really were thieves, who'd be able to keep a store open at all? On some Caribbean islands you see stores with bars on the doors and windows and customers have to make their purchases while standing outside, even when it's raining. That's not because everyone is a thief there, but a higher percentage of the population is lawless than what we have here. Such is most of the 3rd world as well.

In a 1st world nation we should not be going down this road. Telling me that I can't smoke pot (if I wanted it) shouldn't be the government's business. And that's exactly what they have made it, a business. One gripe I have heard about legalizing pot is that we'll have to lay off cops. If that's true, we're in serious trouble already. Because such a system actually gives the police incentive, something they aren't supposed to have in their capacity.

I tried pot when I was younger. It made me shiftless and lazy. I was also forgetting things. Maybe it doesn't affect everyone that way, but I can't live like that. I had a friend who never put it down and eventually went on to use heroin. He's dead now. I'm not saying pot was his gateway, only that he was an addict who didn't get the help he needed because we have turned our drug policy over to an army of thugs instead of a team of doctors.
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