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Lets fix it

Douglasville, GA

#1 Sep 7, 2013
Fixing the problems at the Police Department:
(In case the citizens didn't know, it has the highest turnover rate in GA, unconfirmed)
-New chief
-Raise Salary
-Fix insurance
-Take home cars (cost effective for the taxpayers)
-New chief
-Stop the nitpicking on reports
-Stop discriminating against the employees who don't look like a "Ken" doll
-Upper management stop brow beating employees
-Promote those who deserve it, not the 2 year rookie who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground or your buddies
-Hire the qualified applicants as opposed to the "good looking" ones
-New chief
-Quit spending money on equipment that will never be used
-Quit micromanaging
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
Another idea

Carrollton, GA

#2 Sep 7, 2013
Lets fix it wrote:
Fixing the problems at the Police Department:
(In case the citizens didn't know, it has the highest turnover rate in GA, unconfirmed)
-New chief
-Raise Salary
-Fix insurance
-Take home cars (cost effective for the taxpayers)
-New chief
-Stop the nitpicking on reports
-Stop discriminating against the employees who don't look like a "Ken" doll
-Upper management stop brow beating employees
-Promote those who deserve it, not the 2 year rookie who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground or your buddies
-Hire the qualified applicants as opposed to the "good looking" ones
-New chief
-Quit spending money on equipment that will never be used
-Quit micromanaging
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
-New chief
or you could exercise your freedom to look for a new job. Perhaps you could prepare yourself to become chief one day since you have all the answers. Be an example.a leader-not just a complainer
Insideout

United States

#4 Sep 8, 2013
Another idea wrote:
<quoted text>or you could exercise your freedom to look for a new job. Perhaps you could prepare yourself to become chief one day since you have all the answers. Be an example.a leader-not just a complainer
More than half the people are looking for other jobs. Four have quit since may and at least five will be gone within the next few months. One problem is the public, like you, don't care or are ignorant of the fact that every time another cop walks out the door that's $25,000 of hiring, outfitting, and training costs going with him or her.$100,000 of your tax dollars has been wasted since May. 80 people have left in the last 8 years so you do the math. That's $2,000,000 in tax dollars down the drain. Don't whine about wasted tax dollars and then turn your back on the local cops. It should also make you more comfortable to know that when you call for help a rookie officer is going to show up almost every time.
Lets fix it

Douglasville, GA

#5 Sep 8, 2013
^^^^^^^^^^

Exactly. That's the problem. People are exercising their right to find a new job and are being successful. I don't have all the answers, but I have these. I am an example, you dont have to take this lying down you can use these mediums to state your position in complete anonymity. Maybe, one day after this evil admin retires, I may be chief. I'm not complaining, I'm stating facts. Big difference.

Now, if chief knew who I was, he'd fire me in an instant because he is unreasonable, narcissistic and holds a grudge like you wouldn't believe. I need my job so I won't say who I am. Sounds like I'm a victim of terrorism, doesn't it? I sound like a battered spouse, a bullied child, a person without a voice. That's because I am. There is no equality in this "family" there is no justice for those of opposing opinions. It's like being thrown in the gulag for being Christian. Total dictatorship. Only way to change this is a complete reordering of staff Nd placing the people able, capable and willing to the right thing in place.

The current chief is not a good man or cop. Never was, never will be. He is, at best, a mall security or parking enforcement officer.

Done.
Shorty

Atlanta, GA

#6 Sep 9, 2013
I wish we did have someone like Joe Whisenant again as the chief. Joe was not about the glitz. He was a peoples police officer. A good man. Joe never put himself on a pedestal.
taxed

Marietta, GA

#7 Sep 9, 2013
What worries me is there is this kind of nonsense in a police department. Grow up or get out.

A lot of people have sucky jobs with sucky bosses, we suck it up and do the best we can. Nobody likes a whiny bxxxx.

If the rate of turnover is high compared to other agencies, there is some problem and it should be resolved, I don't see how topix can be a part of a serious solution. And if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

I am disappointed for and along with the officers that have to work in a crappy environment and deal with immature adults that aren't about doing their personal best. If there is any place that needs to work as a team, it is law enforcement.

As a tax payer, I suggest you all work together to get it together.
insideout

Macon, GA

#10 Sep 11, 2013
What is the purpose of an FTO program when training officers recommend remedial training or termination and are ignored and those officers are put on the street? Tax payers don't care about officer retention, low morale, low pay and crappy benefits because it doesn't affect them but they will care once the squared away officers leave and there are nothing but lazy and incompetent people are left. They will reap the benefits of creating a Clayton County type of community by their laissez-faire attitude toward the way the agency has slid downhill as a result of failures in leadership and employee investment. Those that choose to sit by the wayside or remain idle as this slowly takes place deserve to live in Clayton County.
Concerned Citizen

Plano, TX

#11 Sep 11, 2013
I agree with Let's Fix It. There is definitely something wrong when a 2-yr rookie gets the promotion over a veteran officer.
Retired NY LEO

Douglasville, GA

#12 Sep 11, 2013
I'm a citizen of Douglasville. I'm a retired detective of 20 years from New York and 7 year veteran of the USMC.
If this is true and a 2 year rookie is a supervisor, there is something seriously wrong. There is no way that this wet behind the ears officer has been involved in enough situations where they can make an informed, logical, legal decision. I can guarantee that this officer still does not have a grasp of what law enforcement is all about as they are still learning the basics.
If you do the math, the academy is approximately 4 months long and field training is approximately 2 or 3 months long. So you are left with an individual that has approximately 16 or 17 months on his/her own now supervising seasoned veteran officers who have a whole lot more experience, training and knowledge than this rookie.
As many in law enforcement know, you do not even start to become a "good" officer until about 3 years in the field. This rookie isn't even a good officer yet, he/she is still a baby in this career.
I cannot comprehend why anyone would promote an officer who has not worked in more than just patrol.

This is very poor decision making by the administrators and poor management of your most valuable assets, the veterans.
For the sake of this community, I hope this allegation is wrong.

Sgt. Dombrowski (retired)
Reality

United States

#13 Sep 12, 2013
Retired NY LEO wrote:
I'm a citizen of Douglasville. I'm a retired detective of 20 years from New York and 7 year veteran of the USMC.
If this is true and a 2 year rookie is a supervisor, there is something seriously wrong. There is no way that this wet behind the ears officer has been involved in enough situations where they can make an informed, logical, legal decision. I can guarantee that this officer still does not have a grasp of what law enforcement is all about as they are still learning the basics.
If you do the math, the academy is approximately 4 months long and field training is approximately 2 or 3 months long. So you are left with an individual that has approximately 16 or 17 months on his/her own now supervising seasoned veteran officers who have a whole lot more experience, training and knowledge than this rookie.
As many in law enforcement know, you do not even start to become a "good" officer until about 3 years in the field. This rookie isn't even a good officer yet, he/she is still a baby in this career.
I cannot comprehend why anyone would promote an officer who has not worked in more than just patrol.
This is very poor decision making by the administrators and poor management of your most valuable assets, the veterans.
For the sake of this community, I hope this allegation is wrong.
Sgt. Dombrowski (retired)
The reality is police officers can put up with disarray in their department when the pay and benefits are good but that is not the case anymore. The elected officials turned their backs on the employees several years ago and the current mayor and council have made it clear they have little or no concern about employee investment. They are fully aware that the police department is constantly hiring just to try to keep up with officers leaving. Four have left since May. Accompanied by poor salaries, officers with families are paying $550 out of pocket each month for insurance.

The flip side of that is the unhappiness due to the culture at the department and that, along with poor benefits provided by city hall, has created a perfect storm. The culture of constant negativity from the top along with the do as I say, not as I do attitude has soured the attitudes of officers.
Observer

Tucker, GA

#14 Sep 13, 2013
Pretty clear it's time to clean house up there.
DVILLE

United States

#15 Sep 15, 2013
Observer wrote:
Pretty clear it's time to clean house up there.
There is no salvaging the department with the current leaders. They've lost all respect of the rest.
DvillCit

United States

#16 Sep 17, 2013
DVILLE wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no salvaging the department with the current leaders. They've lost all respect of the rest.
Says who?
DvillCit

United States

#17 Sep 17, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>
The reality is police officers can put up with disarray in their department when the pay and benefits are good but that is not the case anymore. The elected officials turned their backs on the employees several years ago and the current mayor and council have made it clear they have little or no concern about employee investment. They are fully aware that the police department is constantly hiring just to try to keep up with officers leaving. Four have left since May. Accompanied by poor salaries, officers with families are paying $550 out of pocket each month for insurance.
The flip side of that is the unhappiness due to the culture at the department and that, along with poor benefits provided by city hall, has created a perfect storm. The culture of constant negativity from the top along with the do as I say, not as I do attitude has soured the attitudes of officers.
What "culture of negativity " are you talking about? Chris Womack is a great inspiration to his officers. Ever since he has been chief, their cruisers look sharp and so does their building. I understand they are getting new uniforms at some point!
Lets fix it

Douglasville, GA

#19 Sep 18, 2013
DvillCit wrote:
<quoted text>
What "culture of negativity " are you talking about? Chris Womack is a great inspiration to his officers. Ever since he has been chief, their cruisers look sharp and so does their building. I understand they are getting new uniforms at some point!
You obviously don't work at the pd and have no clue what you are talking about. You can take that "great inspiration" crap and tell it to someone else.
Are you basing his leadership on the appearance of vehicles? Are you giving him credit for the building? Getting the officers new uniforms is what makes him a "great inspiration"? You are as dilusional as he is.
DvillCit

United States

#20 Sep 18, 2013
Chris does an outstanding job. I hope he runs for Sheriff, since I don't live in the city limits.
Lets fix it

Douglasville, GA

#21 Sep 18, 2013
He's done a great job of running this department... straight to the ground. He's done a great job of getting drunk and...never mind, I can't argue with you because you're arguing from a standpoint of ignorance. You don't know what you're talking about and have no basis for your argument so all you're gonna do is repeat that he's a good guy in as many different ways as possible.

You and very few others think he's a good man. I hope he runs, too. He will his butt handed to him.
DvillCit

United States

#22 Sep 18, 2013
whether or not a man IN ANY. profession chooses to drink in his own time I don't think tarnishes his character. If you are so unhappy there, go to another department. Geeze.
Lets fix it

Douglasville, GA

#23 Sep 18, 2013
I did leave, more are too.
DVILLE

United States

#24 Sep 18, 2013
DvillCit wrote:
whether or not a man IN ANY. profession chooses to drink in his own time I don't think tarnishes his character. If you are so unhappy there, go to another department. Geeze.
Great reply Chris.

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