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Engel
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"including several in minority neighborhoods"
How does that justify the race-baiting headline when the Tribune doesn't include the full list of store closings? Is this the new strategy of the Tribune to sell more newspapers?
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mmichaels
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"For Starbucks to look at all the communities that are already suffering, and then to close the stores that they are closing is really kind of hypocritical.[They] started the store knowing what the community was all about. You come here so you can uplift the community."
Bull! You come here to MAKE MONEY. If people don't want stores to close, they should SHOP THERE. Pure and simple. It's called capitalism. If you don't like the fact that they are closing, OPEN YOUR OWN coffee shop. Sit there in your coffee shop, you can lose money, but rest easy in knowing you're uplifting the community. Maybe you can ask the government to bail you out in the end.
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KansasGirl
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You cannot force success, much to socialists chagrin. I also wonder, was it safe to work there?
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A Pair of Brass Ones
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Starbucks is a victim of its own success. They thought they could sell their product at any price to anyone anywhere. Typical overexpansion mentality that ultimately comes back to bite.
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ABS
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So, they are closing a bunch of stores, "including several in minority neighborhoods that had counted on the green-and-white medallion to signal rebirth."
This is a PC way of saying that these stores are in downtrodden areas. I am familiar with some of the stores on the closure list, and many are surrounded by empty lots or vacant stores. It seems that these "community activist" types looked to Starbucks to bring in other business. If that hasn't happened, and the coffee shop isn't making any money, then I don't see how it's a race issue. It's a business issue.
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Skep Tackle
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Engel wrote: "including several in minority neighborhoods"
How does that justify the race-baiting headline when the Tribune doesn't include the full list of store closings? Is this the new strategy of the Tribune to sell more newspapers? Read further my friend, there is a list and a map. But I agree, once again the Trib is showing it's racist slant. Ignorance prevails again!!
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nancy
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It's tough to make a call when we don't know what the arrangement was when they put the stores in that location. Did Starbucks agree on a time frame before they would shutter them? Did they get some kind of big tax breaks on those locations to put them there?
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joe
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$5.00 coffee in da ghetto ? And ya wonder why they closed ? I'm surprised the gang bangers weren't waitin for the customers outside the door everyday
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johnnylaw
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Once upon a time, long, long ago there was an ancient machine called a coffee maker that sat on your kitchen counter. The native would *gasp* make the coffee in the morning and have some and then the coffee phenomenon was over for the day, unless of course you had a little at work to pick you up in the afternoon.
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coffee joe
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Hey- it's business driven not race driven. A store is not producing, close it. Frankly I can't remember the last time I purchased a Starchucks product. I hope my and thousands of others lack of patronage to this over-rated, over-priced, over roasted coffee chain contributed to its latest move to shut down the gluttony of stores.
Make it at home and save a buck or two…
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Business sense
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Engel wrote: "including several in minority neighborhoods"
How does that justify the race-baiting headline when the Tribune doesn't include the full list of store closings? Is this the new strategy of the Tribune to sell more newspapers? There is a list of closings attached to the story but your point is well made. The headline could easily have said "...most of which are in moderate to high income areas." All race all the time - even in the business section!
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Amy
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coffee joe wrote: Hey- it's business driven not race driven. A store is not producing, close it. Frankly I can't remember the last time I purchased a Starchucks product. I hope my and thousands of others lack of patronage to this over-rated, over-priced, over roasted coffee chain contributed to its latest move to shut down the gluttony of stores.
Make it at home and save a buck or two… Exactly! I'm sure Starbucks didn't purposely close the minority neighborhood stores, they are closing the least profitable ones. With many people concerned about the economy, they don't feel right plunking down 4-5 bucks for a cup of coffee. I don't remember the last time I drank Starbucks because their coffee isn't even very good! If you do get a good cup of coffee, you can bet it will taste completely different next time if a different person makes it. I'm not paying 4 bucks to get a coffee that MIGHT taste good if I can make it the way I like it at home.
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Doc K
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KansasGirl wrote: You cannot force success, much to socialists chagrin. I also wonder, was it safe to work there? What... safe to work there? What does that mean? Let me tell you something hayseed,several of these areas are middle-class, integrated and guickly gentrifying communities. Second, there are a great number of us "safe Negroes" that don't rob, steal, and have real jobs that enjoy having a good beverage (BTW Starbuck's coffee sucks, their other drinks are so much better). Why don't you go back to the cornfield and leave the city talk to use "city folk." K?
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Spector
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I agree -- this is really bad. Honestly, we don't need anymore Starbucks on the north side.(Walgreens, this means you too!). The poorer areas of the city need these coffee shops far more -- they mean jobs and more business in those communities. Like one poster said, you know a bad area is going to start changing and improving if Starbucks thinks enough of it to start building stores. Now those stores are being pulled out! Terrible for the employees -- and their communities!
The city bends over backwards to attract and keep certain businesses, but Daley couldn't have tried to save a few Starbucks in these areas? Oh well, I guess desolation and urban blight is better.
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Doc K
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Nice photo wrote: They can't drink starbucks in these neighborhoods. When they swallow the coffee, it just comes pouring out thru the bullet holes! Have you ever been to these neighborhoods?
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Spector
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johnnylaw wrote: Once upon a time, long, long ago there was an ancient machine called a coffee maker that sat on your kitchen counter. The native would *gasp* make the coffee in the morning and have some and then the coffee phenomenon was over for the day, unless of course you had a little at work to pick you up in the afternoon. Yeah but generally the brown dishwater that poured out of Mr. Coffee tasted like it was brewed through a horse. And back then, the after-work pick-up of choice was generally scotch and a pack of Lucky Strikes. Still may be, actually....
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TWA
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"Starbucks became symbolic of a community that was changing and in transition," said Earnest Gates, executive director of the Near West Side Community Development Corp. "To take that away, it's a blow to a community."
Give me a break. Starbucks is NOT symbolic of a community that was changing. Getting rid of crime, keeping kids safe, and improving local schools are signs of REAL change.
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Paul Radoy
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For those of us who live in North Lawndale it is extremly difficult to see any business shutter its doors, especially when it was hardly given a chance (1 year and a few months). Lawndale has to work harder then most communities to attract good businesses, so a loss like this is painful and a bit frustrating. The worst part is we need more jobs here not less. I encourage people to go to the Starbucks web site and e-mail them directly, respectufully asking them to reconsider. They have an opportunity to be community builders and a few of their stores should be left open in communities that are economically distressed. To whom much is given much is expected.
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vjs
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They just built a new Starbucks in Waukegan, so they are building new stores. Of course, it hasn't opened yet...
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Roy
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Many Starbucks in minority areas really didn't adjust or market their stores to appeal to minority communities(music,accessories, coffee selections,etc). However, those in South Central L.A.(owned by Magic Johnson)are doing well since they have made adjustments to appeal to the area clientele. In my opinion, most Regular Starbucks in minority areas really don't appeal to minorities. FYI, there is money to be spent in those communities, all are not gang infested and ghetto like some of you ignorant posters think.
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