Southeast Regional Airport

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Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#1 Jan 19, 2013
Are people in Versailles aware of the contentious debate in the Greensburg Topix forum over whether to expand Greensburg's existing airport, or to pursue a regional facility that combines air, high-speed rail, and the interstate at a location somewhere near New Point? The point of the latter option is to draw interest in a circle that would affect service for Decatur, Ripley, and Franklin Counties.

The following links are the (current) last two pages of that discussion....

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/greensburg-in...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/greensburg-in...
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#2 Jan 21, 2013
This thread is about building infrastructure that will stimulate economic development in southeast Indiana, which in turn, will draw more tax dollars for repair of local public projects.

If you are a young man or woman of thirty and below, this is about your city's economic welfare twenty, thirty, and forty years from now.

If you are an older man or woman, this is about committing to public improvements for your grandchildren.... Or will you have them to just be concerned over repair to the same local public projects as now? Will you tell them that what they see is what they get, and this is all there is?

People of Ripley County are encouraged to visit the TOPIX forum in Greensburg and join in the "Airport" conversation. Hopefully, your county council members will join, too.
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#3 Jan 22, 2013
The following was posted on January 13, on page 108 of the Greensburg Airport thread....
Nopo wrote:
Here's something for those against a regional transportation hub that connects air travel, high-speed rail, and the interstate. The following Erika D. Smith article is on page B1 of today's Sunday (Indianapolis) Star....

"Ads show mass transit talk finally is traveling from 'why' to 'how'"

[Quote]

If you've turned on a radio or TV in the past couple of days, you may have come across a series of new commercials that offer answers to what has become a decades-old question in Central Indiana: "Why do we need more transit options?" The answers in the commercials aren't new. But somehow, those answers have a new ring of truth to them.

You wouldn't know it from the commercials, but in many quarters, the debate has moved beyond: "Why do we need more transit options?" Now the queswtion is: "How can we add transit in a way that makes financial, political and logistical sense?"

That's a big hurdle for Central Indiana to cross. It took only 30 years. "The exciting thing is we're starting to kick off the next phase of planning," said Anna Tyszkiewicz, executive dsirector of the Indianapolis Metropolitan Planning Organization. "And this a point where we've really never been before."

Starting next month, Indy Connect, the band of public agencies pushing an expansion of buses and rail in Marion and Hamilton counties, will host a series of public hearings to get beyond the "why" to the "how" of transit.

The goal is is to collect residents' thoughts on whether light rail or bus rapid transit would be better for three corridors - one that runs east and west along Washington Street and two others that run north and south between Indianapolis and its suburbs. Indy Connect also wants opinions on whether those "rapid transit" corridors should run on new or existing lanes along city streets.

But perhaps the most interesting, and probably the most contentious, thing residents will be able to discuss is where to put their transit stops.[...] The answers will either dispel or confirm people's firmly held beliefs about what transit can and cannot do for Central Indiana.[...]

When you start thinking about stops, and more to the point, when you start debating where they should go, you start to realize that transit is about more than just moving people from Point A to Point B.[...]

Its about the possibility for attracting new development and people to neighborhoods. Its about the potential of finding new ways to explore the region - especially if a stop ends up, say, two blocks from your house. Its about knowing there's always a credible alternative to driving.

Once you start hammering out the "how" of transit, suddenly, it becomes more relevant to people's lives. And just as suddenly, the "why" starts to make more sense. That is what Indy Connect is trying to get across in its commercial;s, especially to the skeptics. Because transit, if done right, is indeed, as they say, "for all of us."

[End of quote]

The question for folks in southeast Indiana to consider is whether (Greensburg's) airport expansion at its current location is really "for all of us."
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#4 Jan 22, 2013
Consider that according to 2011 data, Ripley, Decatur and Franklin counties have a combined 77,700 residents who are co-located midway between metropolitan areas. Wouldn't it make sense to pool their resources in this endeavor?
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#6 Jan 22, 2013
Going to Florida?

Allegiant is a small airline that services various eastern cities twice a week. It hubs out of Sanford, Florida which is another airport just northeast of Orlando on Interstate 4. A drive of thirty miles east, and one can be in Daytona. Just west is the Orlando metropolitan area. From Sanford, one can also catch connecting flights to international destinations around the Caribbean.

http://www.orlandosanfordairport.com/

http://www.orlandosanfordairport.com/airlines...

Allegiant Airlines services Lexington, Kentucky and Fort Wayne, Indiana. My suggestion is that if a facility exists, small airlines can be enticed to southeast Indiana as an option in lieu of landing in Indianapolis or Covington, Kentucky. Co-locating a high-speed rail facility is for drawing others to use the facility as a destination to embark to and/or debark from other destinations.

Why New Point? Looking at the map, New Point is an area where zoning can allow for future growth in the adjoining area as the airport/train/bus facility gains usage. Greensburg's current airport is hemmed in by roadways, a city park, ball diamonds, swimming pool, bowling alley, and fairgrounds. In light of the recent crash which took four lives, then consider that the City Park lake has numerous geese that could be a hindrance to aircraft. And yes, airport expansion at its current location would chiefly serve the interests of Decatur County's wealthy who can afford surreal weekend trips to places most others can afford only once a year.

Am I wanting Ripley County to partially fund this? There isn't a free lunch. In a prior post I wrote, "Consider that according to 2011 data, Franklin, Ripley, and Decatur counties have a combined 77,700 residents who are co-located between metropolitan areas. Wouldn't it make sense to combine resources for this endeavor?"

Ripley County would get the benefit of an airport that 77,700 can afford, at a partial cost. It would require the formation of an airport authority that encompasses a tri-county area. Then toss in some federal aquisition money, and federal grants which would obligate the airport authority for the long haul.

How about maintenance and operational costs? I've suggested that a national guard or a federal reserve military unit could occupy the backside of the runway. Also consider that the military's Urban Warfare Training Center is located near Butlerville. It needs a place where troops can be landed. It has received troops in Terre Haute and transported them across the state. It isn't unusual for a civilian facility to have a shared mission with the military.

The possibilities are there for packaging.
Nopo

Greenwood, IN

#9 Jan 26, 2013
Is it really a non-issue, as it seems?

Don't people want to help themselves?

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