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# Has Couple Found Formula To Win Lottery?

A double-lottery-winning couple in Dane County doubled their winnings again. Verlyn and Judith Adamson of Mount Horeb each claimed a \$350,000 jackpot this week for having the winning numbers in the state ... Full Story
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4cryingoutloud
#1 Aug 22, 2008
They have a system, huh? If I'm reading this article correctly, they won one lottery game. "...with the same numbers, and for the same drawing." Frankly, the article seems confusing.
Buzz
#2 Aug 22, 2008
"But Steven Post, a mathematics professor at Edgewood College in Madison, said there is no way to devise a strategy for finding the winning numbers in a game that uses randomly generated numbers to determine the winning combination"

Did you ever hear of the law of averages moron? You look at the
history of draw numbers. This will lower your odds remarkably.
That's called a strategy.

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mar
#3 Aug 22, 2008
ih hope Steven Post never invests in the stock market because he's sure to loose
Thomas
#4 Aug 22, 2008
Anything to get your name in the paper.
TLS

United States

#5 Aug 22, 2008
Dumb luck. Lightning struck the same place 4 times. The only puzzle is how many people can this accountant sucker into buying his lottery formula.
bobby

United States

#6 Aug 22, 2008
Seems like an inside job, no way they get to keep the money, my money says they bypassed the rules. Had to be greedy and buy 4 tickets, one and nobody cares, 4 you are cheating.
Math guy
#7 Aug 22, 2008
"Did you ever hear of the law of averages moron? You look at the
history of draw numbers. This will lower your odds remarkably.
That's called a strategy."

Um...wrong. Well I guess it is a strategy, but it's not effective. And come on, moron?

This is called the gambler's fallacy. The law of averages is the effect of lots of random happenings. If you flip 100 heads in a row on a fair coin flip, the odds of getting tails on the next one are 50-50.

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ynot4tony2

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#8 Aug 22, 2008
Anyone who thinks there is a "formula" for predicting winning lottery numbers is a fool.

Future numbers are independent of past numbers.
Roger B
#9 Aug 22, 2008
If the numbers are indeed generated "randomly" by a computer algorithm and the algorithm is known, and the initial "seed" used to generate the first "random" number is known, then all subsequent "random" numbers can be easily derived. The term "random" in computer terminology is actually a misnomer, in that the numbers that are calculated are done so in a mathematical formula are actually not "random" at all. It is not like pulling out a number from a hat, as many may believe.
Salamogens
#10 Aug 22, 2008
When it cannot be done, stay out of the way of the person doing it.
ynot4tony2

United States

#11 Aug 22, 2008
Buzz said, "Did you ever hear of the law of averages moron? You look at the
history of draw numbers. This will lower your odds remarkably.
That's called a strategy. "

Do you even know what the law of averages is, "moron"? Obviously not. Don't insult the intelligence of people smarter than you.
Philip
#12 Aug 22, 2008
I would have thought that a formula for winning the lottery would have been figured out already by a savant or some computer program.
Math guy
#13 Aug 22, 2008
Roger is correct to a degree, but true randomness can be created using human input or white noise to create the seed.
Math guy
#14 Aug 22, 2008
Salamogens, that is a wonderful pithy saying and all, but really. I'm all for Tony Robbins philosophy and all, but without cheating there is no way to break it. It's dumb luck.
David Vida

#15 Aug 22, 2008
Its a scam, they just got lucky. good for them
TC_Boulder
#16 Aug 22, 2008
I would not be taking any classes from Steven Post, a mathematics professor at Edgewood College in Madison.... he should know you do not have to "buy all the tickets" as he states, you just have to buy ever combination of numbers, and others have calculated this startegy as well and at what point it would pay to do so.
Teddy Pendergraff

#17 Aug 22, 2008
I also won, but Obama made me give \$1 to 350,000 poor people struggling to afford a mortgage they couldn't really afford in the first place. I wasn't really happy about that, but what do you do, ehh Comrads??? I probably would have done something stupid like buy a second house when some people have a hard time affording the one they paid too much money for in the first place that was too expensive for their budget.
Larry Golden
#18 Aug 22, 2008
Professor Steven Post is just to arrogant to face the fact that laypeople are smarter than him. Nay sayers have been around forever. Man will never fly, the Earth is flat, we will never go into space....
This couple went a few brains cells further than Professor Steven Post, that's all.
George

United States

#19 Aug 22, 2008
Buzz wrote:
"But Steven Post, a mathematics professor at Edgewood College in Madison, said there is no way to devise a strategy for finding the winning numbers in a game that uses randomly generated numbers to determine the winning combination"
Did you ever hear of the law of averages moron? You look at the
history of draw numbers. This will lower your odds remarkably.
That's called a strategy.
Ah...the infamous "Law of Averages"..the battle cry of wishful thinkers and losing strategy of gamblers....There's a reason that they can build \$1B casino's!

If I flip a coin and it comes up tails 99 times in a row, the odds that it will come up heads on the 100th flip is 50/50..like every other flip. The coin has no memory and no programming that says it has to come up heads 50 times and tails 50 times.

If these things could be predicted, there would be a ton of millionaire math teachers and a lot of busted Casino's!
Roger B
#20 Aug 22, 2008
Math guy: I am not right to a degree. I am totally correct. But yes, the results of a random number stream can be altered during the process by changing the seed of the number. But that has to be done through a controlled mathematical process. Nothing in computer calculations is random my friend. There is nothing called white noise in a computer algorithm, only the ability to simulate white noise, but that is also calculated.

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