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In Augusta County, bath salts are today's "designer drug" and the results can be deadly.
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Concerned Parent

Staunton, VA

#1 Apr 6, 2012
Check out High Command at the Staunton Mall..nothing but trash. Should be the next site for a vigil...
Anon

Buena Vista, VA

#2 Apr 6, 2012
Great... the Westboro Baptist Church came to town... I am deeply sorry for the family's and congregation's loss, but let's not start this please. This is not the way to accomplish anything. Picketing and public "vigils" are outdated and are not a way to get results or make anyone stop doing what they're doing, much like the Westboro Baptist Church tries to do with Soldier's funerals. First, it's this, then they'll be protesting school dances for kids that have a partner of the same sex. If you want results, contact the police and let them do they're job. If the product was purchased at this establishment, get the receipt, credit card records, etc and take them to the police. They're the only ones with power in these situations.
JDinVA

Penn Laird, VA

#3 Apr 6, 2012
Anon wrote:
Great... the Westboro Baptist Church came to town... I am deeply sorry for the family's and congregation's loss, but let's not start this please. This is not the way to accomplish anything. Picketing and public "vigils" are outdated and are not a way to get results or make anyone stop doing what they're doing, much like the Westboro Baptist Church tries to do with Soldier's funerals. First, it's this, then they'll be protesting school dances for kids that have a partner of the same sex. If you want results, contact the police and let them do they're job. If the product was purchased at this establishment, get the receipt, credit card records, etc and take them to the police. They're the only ones with power in these situations.
I see what you're saying about picketing, and about letting the police do their job, but I don't think these folks compare in any way to the lunatics from Westboro.
Anon

Buena Vista, VA

#4 Apr 7, 2012
JDinVA wrote:
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I see what you're saying about picketing, and about letting the police do their job, but I don't think these folks compare in any way to the lunatics from Westboro.
I appreciate you not bashing my post and I'm sure they didn't act that way either, I'm simply implying that if we open this door, who knows where it will go.
god fearer

Farmville, VA

#5 Apr 7, 2012
EVERY community needs to find out, and stand up, to support communities free of substance abuse.

Historically BLACK churches have been doing this for years. Historically WHITE churches need to do the same. And, the churches need to learn and act together. Not only to picket for awareness, but to speak and vote that their communities have effective, evidence-based assessment and treatment programs locally.

And, NO ONE in any of those churches should SMOKE cigarettes! However many picket you have, if anyone in that church smoke, they undermine the entire purpose of the picket!: my drug is ok, but yours is not! And scientific evidence shows that nicotine addiction (i.e. cigarette smoking) "causes changes in gene regulation that enhances the brain's response to cocaine" ... in other words, smoking sets the smoker up -... and children and others who are 'second-hand smoking' because their households have smokers ... for more powerful impact from and addiction to cocaine, crack, etc.[ and perhaps further research will show something similar for other drugs, like the 'bath salts']( Nature, published online Nov 2 2011, Smoking stokes cocaine craving)

So, if a single person at that church,- or any church - still smokes cigarette - or continues to allow Virginia politicians to subsidize the cigarette industry - are known the the Holy Spirit as hypocrites. Pray that the Holy Spirit purge the church and all the faithful of smoking!

“You so dirty baby!!!!”

Since: Nov 08

Verona,VA

#6 Apr 7, 2012
Genesis 1:12 KJV And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Liberalace

Hurt, VA

#7 Apr 7, 2012
god fearer wrote:
EVERY community needs to find out, and stand up, to support communities free of substance abuse.
Historically BLACK churches have been doing this for years. Historically WHITE churches need to do the same. And, the churches need to learn and act together. Not only to picket for awareness, but to speak and vote that their communities have effective, evidence-based assessment and treatment programs locally.
And, NO ONE in any of those churches should SMOKE cigarettes! However many picket you have, if anyone in that church smoke, they undermine the entire purpose of the picket!: my drug is ok, but yours is not! And scientific evidence shows that nicotine addiction (i.e. cigarette smoking) "causes changes in gene regulation that enhances the brain's response to cocaine" ... in other words, smoking sets the smoker up -... and children and others who are 'second-hand smoking' because their households have smokers ... for more powerful impact from and addiction to cocaine, crack, etc.[ and perhaps further research will show something similar for other drugs, like the 'bath salts']( Nature, published online Nov 2 2011, Smoking stokes cocaine craving)
So, if a single person at that church,- or any church - still smokes cigarette - or continues to allow Virginia politicians to subsidize the cigarette industry - are known the the Holy Spirit as hypocrites. Pray that the Holy Spirit purge the church and all the faithful of smoking!
I see how successful the negro churches have been in standing up to substance abuse. Drugs aren't a problem at all in those communities. Try something a bit more efficacious: forbid baths at home and only allow your children to take showers. Then they will have no need to experiment with bath salts and will be free from this evil scourge.
Another thing, the next thing the man is going to outlaw will be licking the backs of frogs. We can't do anything for fun anymore!

R.I.P.: Rick James
Curious

Churchville, VA

#8 Apr 7, 2012
I wonder who owns Trinity Glass & Tobacco ? Are business licenses public info ?
Errr

Waynesboro, VA

#9 Apr 7, 2012
Liberalace wrote:
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I see how successful the negro churches have been in standing up to substance abuse. Drugs aren't a problem at all in those communities. Try something a bit more efficacious: forbid baths at home and only allow your children to take showers. Then they will have no need to experiment with bath salts and will be free from this evil scourge.
Another thing, the next thing the man is going to outlaw will be licking the backs of frogs. We can't do anything for fun anymore!
R.I.P.: Rick James
Bath salts that you use for a bath and the "bath salts" drug people use are not the same thing at all. How about researching what they actually are before posting something something so silly? Hopefully you were just being funny.
Rita

Waynesboro, VA

#10 Apr 7, 2012
as an addict of bathsalts i consider picketing the least that we as a community can do! if we dont stand up up for life than who will? its scary how fast thhis epidemmic has taken over and taken so many lives at such a fast pace! and the police...i have to shutter at that...they just sat right there and said that the bathsalts that are killing the same people they supposedly serve and protect is within legal limitations....i didnt know that there were legal limitations on my life...that legally its ok to get high because its inside legal limitations! get a grip! protesting is obviously the only way its being brought to the publics attention! im all for it and would have been right in front of trinity where i bought the legal drugs that almost killed me, a mother of 4, a daughter, a sister...etc....and protested with them!...i say protest and picket...its for life...to live life...absolutely NOTHING like westboro!
lvmy3

Waynesboro, VA

#11 Apr 7, 2012
I saw all the protesters standing on each side of Trinity Glass and Tobacco. I commend these people for doing this.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Apr 7, 2012
Anon wrote:
Great... the Westboro Baptist Church came to town... I am deeply sorry for the family's and congregation's loss, but let's not start this please. This is not the way to accomplish anything. Picketing and public "vigils" are outdated and are not a way to get results or make anyone stop doing what they're doing, much like the Westboro Baptist Church tries to do with Soldier's funerals. First, it's this, then they'll be protesting school dances for kids that have a partner of the same sex. If you want results, contact the police and let them do they're job. If the product was purchased at this establishment, get the receipt, credit card records, etc and take them to the police. They're the only ones with power in these situations.
I'll "bash your post" - the protests held by this church are not even on the same planet as those held by Westboro Baptist Church.

And pray tell; how exactly would you propose that we "get the receipt, credit card records, etc" without a lawsuit? Are you advocating that we kick down the door and take their records? Sounds a bit heavy handed to me, and I have been accused of having heavy hands.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Apr 7, 2012
Liberalace wrote:
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I see how successful the negro churches have been in standing up to substance abuse. Drugs aren't a problem at all in those communities. Try something a bit more efficacious: forbid baths at home and only allow your children to take showers. Then they will have no need to experiment with bath salts and will be free from this evil scourge.
Another thing, the next thing the man is going to outlaw will be licking the backs of frogs. We can't do anything for fun anymore!
R.I.P.: Rick James
Frog licking is an art. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
Dude

Bumpass, VA

#14 Apr 7, 2012
Rita wrote:
as an addict of bathsalts i consider picketing the least that we as a community can do! if we dont stand up up for life than who will? its scary how fast thhis epidemmic has taken over and taken so many lives at such a fast pace! and the police...i have to shutter at that...they just sat right there and said that the bathsalts that are killing the same people they supposedly serve and protect is within legal limitations....i didnt know that there were legal limitations on my life...that legally its ok to get high because its inside legal limitations! get a grip! protesting is obviously the only way its being brought to the publics attention! im all for it and would have been right in front of trinity where i bought the legal drugs that almost killed me, a mother of 4, a daughter, a sister...etc....and protested with them!...i say protest and picket...its for life...to live life...absolutely NOTHING like westboro!
So... wait...
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You snorted bath salts because they were legal? Drinking a gallon of vodka is legal, too; it'll kill you, but it's perfectly legal. Seriously, should we outlaw drinking gasoline, too? How about taking a nap with a plastic bag over your head?
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I know I sound calloused, but at some point you have to take personal responsibility for your actions.
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I'm glad you figured out that doing drugs is stupid, and that you survived it. I'm equally glad for your children, many kids lose their parents to poor decisions. Every choice you make doesn't just affect you, it affects your children as well. I don't know what would drive a mother of 4 to take drugs. I hope you get well or find the help you need; if not for your own sake, for the sake of your children.
Anon

Buena Vista, VA

#15 Apr 7, 2012
CvilleGordo wrote:
I'll "bash your post" - the protests held by this church are not even on the same planet as those held by Westboro Baptist Church.
And pray tell; how exactly would you propose that we "get the receipt, credit card records, etc" without a lawsuit? Are you advocating that we kick down the door and take their records? Sounds a bit heavy handed to me, and I have been accused of having heavy hands.
Think about it. The deceased bought the product or someone else did that knew them. They had/have a receipt copy, credit card record, etc. I'm not advocating anything. I have no clue how you took that as me advocating any sort of unlawful entry into the establishment and demanding anything. Stop picking childish fights Gordo. If you can't decipher something from a comment and make sense of it, maybe you shouldn't try to "bash" it in the first place.
citizen

Farmville, VA

#16 Apr 8, 2012
We all make choices in life as adults.

No whining.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Apr 8, 2012
Dude wrote:
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So... wait...
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You snorted bath salts because they were legal? Drinking a gallon of vodka is legal, too; it'll kill you, but it's perfectly legal. Seriously, should we outlaw drinking gasoline, too? How about taking a nap with a plastic bag over your head?
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I know I sound calloused, but at some point you have to take personal responsibility for your actions.
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I'm glad you figured out that doing drugs is stupid, and that you survived it. I'm equally glad for your children, many kids lose their parents to poor decisions. Every choice you make doesn't just affect you, it affects your children as well. I don't know what would drive a mother of 4 to take drugs. I hope you get well or find the help you need; if not for your own sake, for the sake of your children.
I think the distinction here is that a store is selling it knowing the purpose for its end use. I wouldn't take the same position with pot because that doesn't send multidudes to the ER. This personal responsibility thing has its limits.
Dude

New York, NY

#18 Apr 8, 2012
heh wrote:
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I think the distinction here is that a store is selling it knowing the purpose for its end use. I wouldn't take the same position with pot because that doesn't send multidudes to the ER. This personal responsibility thing has its limits.
When it comes to legally competent adults, I disagree.
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I don't have a problem with the protesting as long as it is done in a legal matter that respects the property rights of the owner, my objection was to the individual that insinuated that they did this drug simply because it was legal. There certainly is enough literature on these 'bath' salts readily available to know that they're dangerous.
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BTW, if you identify... Happy Easter.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Apr 8, 2012
Dude wrote:
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When it comes to legally competent adults, I disagree.
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I don't have a problem with the protesting as long as it is done in a legal matter that respects the property rights of the owner, my objection was to the individual that insinuated that they did this drug simply because it was legal. There certainly is enough literature on these 'bath' salts readily available to know that they're dangerous.
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BTW, if you identify... Happy Easter.
Thanks for the kind greeting. I don't identify any longer, but appreciate your thought in any case.
I'll go along with the responsibility onus up to a point. I think Rita's saying because its being sold like beer or cigarettes there is an implied safety to using it. Just as we care for her when she ODs, we (as a society - here I go again) should also care about protecting her from herself.
There's something wrong when it takes a church group picketing to call attention to the problem. Law enforcement is only concerned whether the substance makeup meets criteria established by politicians. We need social programs to help people to find ways to deal with life w/o drug abuse. I don't see the health care industry picketing outside the Father, Son and Holy Smokes Shop. Drug abusers are patients. They're job creators, but at the same time raise the cost of my doctor's visit, which can bring us full circle to our health care mandate differences, helping save us from our collective selves.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Apr 8, 2012
Anon wrote:
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Think about it. The deceased bought the product or someone else did that knew them. They had/have a receipt copy, credit card record, etc. I'm not advocating anything. I have no clue how you took that as me advocating any sort of unlawful entry into the establishment and demanding anything. Stop picking childish fights Gordo. If you can't decipher something from a comment and make sense of it, maybe you shouldn't try to "bash" it in the first place.
I reserve the right to bash comments and pick childish fights on the internet. So again; since you did not answer, how WOULD you obtain these items?

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