Corinth moves toward Fiber-to-the-Home registrations [Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, Tupelo]

Nov 17, 2013 Full story: Customer Interaction Solutions 46

Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) Nov. 17--CORINTH -- A town hall meeting scheduled for 6 p.m. Monday at the Corinth High School auditorium will give people in Corinth a chance to learn details about C Spire's launch of Fiber-to-the-Home.

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Tupelo

Tupelo, MS

#1 Nov 17, 2013
Tupelo never even tried to have high speed fiber.
Ron

Saltillo, MS

#2 Nov 21, 2013
I am just salivating over the idea of a Gigabit speed internet service.
Notfooled

Corinth, MS

#3 Dec 16, 2013
Tupelo leaders time probably was consumed it working on getting more industry with jobs to move into Lee County and didn't fall for being an advertising agent for a private own company. I had hoped the leaders would put half the effort in getting new Companies good wages as they have done trying to promote this Company which offers not one job to these areas period. It unbelievable that the areas like Corinth who has not got any new industry to even help to begin to recovery of what has been lost over the past 25 years and their Leaders fall for this heist by a private phone company. They should be embarrassed and voted out for their incompetence for letting this company us them for this fraud.
FYI

Rienzi, MS

#4 Dec 16, 2013
Don't forget that one of CSpire's employees serves on the Board of Alderman. Perhaps that had something to o with it?
Eddy

Tupelo, MS

#5 Dec 17, 2013
Look at it this way. Americans are not going to work for less than one dollar an hour to compete with China or India. So low level jobs are not even on the table. What the future holds is science and technology which require creative thinking and intelligence. These research and cutting edge jobs require a infrastructure that can handle lots of data very fast.
This is not happening with Comcast as Comcast has no competition and is a monopoly.
If you are jealous of private companies many money buy stock in them.
Better private enterprise brings the future than the government group think which is corrupt. Fiber brings opportunities it is you that can and has to take advantage of it. You need to create your own opportunities if the tools are there.
Notfooled

Corinth, MS

#6 Dec 17, 2013
Has nothing to do with me being Jealous of C-Spire I could care less about what they are doing. What I do care about is my elected Officals using their time to promote a private business, this without one guarantee of getting one job to this community. Allowing this company to use them to help make C-Spire money. If they think that C-Spire is so great then they need to go buy stock in this Company on their own time off and quite using there public office to promote C-Spire period. If this company wasn't in this for self promotion and Profit for themselves, they would come in and offer their Services to any City in the in this State. Good Companies who come in to a City bring Jobs with them and don't play Games with the Cities Elected Officals or it's Citizens .
Eddy wrote:
Look at it this way. Americans are not going to work for less than one dollar an hour to compete with China or India. So low level jobs are not even on the table. What the future holds is science and technology which require creative thinking and intelligence. These research and cutting edge jobs require a infrastructure that can handle lots of data very fast.
This is not happening with Comcast as Comcast has no competition and is a monopoly.
If you are jealous of private companies many money buy stock in them.
Better private enterprise brings the future than the government group think which is corrupt. Fiber brings opportunities it is you that can and has to take advantage of it. You need to create your own opportunities if the tools are there.
Fools

Tupelo, MS

#7 Dec 17, 2013
Every government function is to make money for private hands. The very fact that it costs money to be elected should be a clue. The government does not supply jobs either does private companies. It is up to the individual to make a living from his skills. All companies want breaks if they have openings. They get tax breaks and other regulations to their benefit. They also get regulations to stop the competition. Government is not your friend or helpful. What government does is take your buying power away and dumb down your children in school to be slaves for them.

C-Spire is also connected to the NSA that uses your private information to their benefit just like Comcast. There are no good guys just people taking advantage of your ignorance. Might as well find a way to use them to your advantage.
Yep

Pontotoc, MS

#8 Dec 17, 2013
Notfooled is on the money. This is basically a gimmick in which CSpire gets a community to bear a chunk of the cost to put in fiber infrastructure, and the whole fiasco gets CSpire a ton of free advertising and hype.

Tupelo didn't apply for several reasons. One is because of Tupelo's unfortunate franchise agreement with Comcast, it's true. But Tupelo also read the fine print, which says that the applicant community bears the cost of obtaining easements and rights-of-way wherever CSpire wants to run the fiber,plus the cost of repairing roads and other existing infrastructure that CSpire wants to run the fiber under (and don't think you won't feel those bumps when you drive over the patches). Also, CSpire demands that permit fees for the construction be waived and the permit process be "expedited" for the project.

In other words, CSpire pays for the fiber and digging up the city to run it, and the city pays for fixing everything afterwards. Let's not even talk about all the legal work and expenses required to take care of the easements and such.

Tupelo leaders weighed the good and bad, and this project looked pretty dang bad for Tupelo.

Maybe Corinth is in better fiscal shape (wouldn't be surprising, really), but between the cost to the city and the existing Comcast agreement, Tupelo wisely said no.
past bow

Corinth, MS

#9 Dec 18, 2013
Folks AT& T has had fiber here for years and found out corinth can not sign enough to make it profitable! How many family's are going to pay 80 a month when other one's are half that! another rip off by the city!.
yeeper

Tupelo, MS

#10 Dec 18, 2013
",plus the cost of repairing roads"
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They have machines that drill under roads no digging required. There are right of ways on most all property. The Tupelo leaders never even considered the proposal because they have their campaign donations from Comcast.

The price is the same as Comcast so no new taxes for the trouble. They simply do not have the will to work for the public if they do not benefit themselves and their agenda. Every bit of media news is free advertising. The local paper (DJ) only prints the propaganda that benefits the paid advertisers.
The bigger question is Tupelo Water and Light going to offer a fiber option to the public?
yeeper

Tupelo, MS

#11 Dec 18, 2013
"How many family's are going to pay 80 a month when other one's are half that! another rip off by the city!."
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It depends, you are looking at apples and corn. They are not equal by any stretch of the imagination. Comcast charges over $200 a month for a full package. The real problem is poor paying jobs due to poor infrastructure. You can not have research and technology opportunities when all people want to do is work on assembly lines and not think for a living.
Hester

United States

#12 Dec 18, 2013
Personally I think Corinth community should embrace it because those that have have benefitted from it. Research it. Kansas city and Chattanooga. lt is also going to save my family money by packaging all our services and I'll be able to travel less and work from home more which means more time with my family. I honestly doubt we'll end up getting it any time soon. People like to complain but they don't like change. Everyone wants to bitch about poor quality Internet and bad service but when a solution comes they bury their head in the sand and act like everything is fine. I've come to the conclusion people just like to complain. Only 4% of North corinth has signed up so far but I guarantee 50% have moaned and groaned about their existing options. To move forward and be competitive we need to get with the times and welcome change.
past bow

Corinth, MS

#13 Dec 18, 2013
the cheapest "internet only" is 80 bucks a month! Most homes in Corinth only have basic internet that you get from at&t for 39 bucks! Noone is going to pay the difference for 1 second faster!
Kent

Tupelo, MS

#14 Dec 18, 2013
"basic internet that you get from at&t for 39 bucks!"
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DSL is not fiber. If you do 4K you can not on DSL. Also many people would rather pay for fiber than a cell phone. The best thing is customer choice not one size fits all.

“Ain't no rest for the wicked.”

Since: Sep 13

Federal Way, WA

#15 Dec 18, 2013
past bow wrote:
the cheapest "internet only" is 80 bucks a month! Most homes in Corinth only have basic internet that you get from at&t for 39 bucks! Noone is going to pay the difference for 1 second faster!
If you're hoping to get FTTH so you can get the cheapest option they have, you really have no business getting FTTH. Stick with what is already filling your needs. FTTH provides an option for those who have higher needs than are filled by what is already available.

FTTH has bandwidth that cable and DSL can only dream of. Of course, not a single person or business in Corinth has any need whatsoever for that kind of bandwidth, even the ISPs already in Corinth, so the whole point is moot. Still, you're buying tons of bandwidth when you get FTTH, not cheap internet.

I'll be waiting for the first horror story regarding a user's 11 year old PC not being able to get full speed from their FTTH connection and being completely oblivious that an old 3C905b 10/100 NIC connected to a 10Mbps hub won't let you anywhere near 1Gbps and yet they're mad at the company. The majority of equipment in place won't support the speeds and yet those same dinobots will buy FTTH. That, or someone will be mad at the company because their child jammed a peanut butter sandwich into the DS3 (and yeah, I'm sure they'll be using DS3's) so it's the company's fault and not their unruly child's.

The entire project is unrealistic. The most demanding user in Corinth can easily be sated by a decent DSL line and yet light cables are going to be offered. Why? What's the point in offering something that nobody could fathom fully using nor could afford?
Kent

Tupelo, MS

#16 Dec 18, 2013
"Why? What's the point in offering something that nobody could fathom fully using nor could afford?"
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You have no imagination on the things you can do with it. For you stick with DSL for me o paid $300 a month and it would be a bargain for my research.

“Ain't no rest for the wicked.”

Since: Sep 13

Federal Way, WA

#17 Dec 18, 2013
I think I might have an idea on what I can do with FTTH considering I already have it. I don't live in Corinth.

My comment was for Corinth residents, in that not a single one of them could possibly hope to fully utilize it. That includes you. If you're doing research off of an internet connection you don't need anywhere near that kind of pipeline. Research does not equal large amounts of data passing through the pipe continually.

Unless, of course, your research is in trying to figure out how much you can download and then dump from your hard drives repeatedly. A gigabit line doesn't help if you don't have the hard drive to support what you're downloading. You don't have that kind of drive space sitting around and I'm really not going to care about the ensuing protest you may give that says you do. If you understand how to, do the math to figure out what kind of data you can pull down with a 1Gbps line continually active for just a single month. You don't have that kind of drive space and to insist that you do is ridiculous.

That kind of bandwidth is really only usable if you're streaming 1080p video around the clock or serving extremely popular websites, neither of which you could possibly accomplish. Otherwise, most of the pipe lays empty most of the time and you're paying for nothing.

That is the meaning of my question. What's the point in offering something nobody could fathom fully using, couldn't afford, and have no need for?

Sure, you could bittorrent your movies much quicker, but without the associated hardware to keep a large movie collection you're still wasting your money. Even then, you better be sure that there are enough other people connected to the torrent and they have the kind of bandwidth to supply you to justify the higher cost and more speed. If the torrent is slow, it's slow. Other people only have so much bandwidth to give you.

If you're doing a lot of distributed computing, the size of your pipe doesn't matter. A work unit is a work unit regardless of how fast you will get it. You still have to crunch the work unit and that requires processor power (maybe a good GPU depending on the project). Internet speed doesn't come into play.

That kind of bandwidth would require many users to start doing things with their home network (a single computer is never going to justify that kind of speed and cost) that has never been done in Corinth to date. One person might start using it more fully, but there's not enough people in Corinth that understand what you can do with a home network to actually justify the cost to the user and to the city.

That, in the end, makes the whole thing pointless and a particularly poorly constructed way to milk the city dry for no real reason. You people couldn't hope to know HOW to use to the extent of justifying having it, and yet they're about to charge you as a user and you as a taxpayer to put it in just so you can be a link in the chain to the city they do care about. They're peeing on your back and telling you that it's raining. Then they're going to charge you for the privilege of having their urine on you.
Kent

Tupelo, MS

#18 Dec 18, 2013
My production of 3D holographic high definition television and games needs a lot more bandwidth than is now present and I can not hire workers to create it without a way to transmit it. Connecting to studios in NY and CA to piece these programs together needs FTTH.
If you like living in the past and do not want cutting edge employment in MS stay with horses and a buggy. I for one will leave without the tools needed in my trade.

“Ain't no rest for the wicked.”

Since: Sep 13

Federal Way, WA

#19 Dec 18, 2013
Ahahahahahahaha, yeah, I believe that video games that are not yet in usable production quality are created in Corinth. 3D holographic games are not yet a reality. If you thought I would be bamboozled by your woefully incorrect jargon dropping attempt you were wrong.

Look, it's obvious you don't know what a 3d holographic game is in the first place.

3D? That's been done for a long time but it's only pseudo-3d. After all, there's no depth to a monitor. That's where the holographic part comes in... in order to be truly 3d an image has to be presented outside of the television/monitor.

Low end cheap holographic displays run about 40 thousand dollars.

And you, who lives in Corinth, Mississippi, a place that has an incredible lack of jobs, production capacity, or money to support either, make games that play on them even though there's not a single 3D holographic game that has gone to market yet.

Brilliant. You're full of it.

If you were to do the math on the kind of bandwidth you need for models and game data you'd realize that gigabit internet is extreme overkill to send the entire finished game package to the internet in a reasonable time. The entire game could easily be sent or received over a moderate cable or frame relay connection. A Blu Ray disk full of information can be downloaded by a reasonable cable internet connection in less than two hours. People already do that. It's call bittorrent and hacking your PS3.

Your finished product is actually larger than your source material. If you knew the very first thing about compilers you'd understand. You don't. Since you don't understand that, there's no way in hell you develop 3D holographic games.

By the way, I thought you were a research facility, not a game design studio that nobody realized existed.

You're a horrible liar and should change your tactic.
GigaWhatGigaWho

Ridgeland, MS

#20 Dec 19, 2013
Kent wrote:
My production of 3D holographic high definition television and games needs a lot more bandwidth than is now present and I can not hire workers to create it without a way to transmit it. Connecting to studios in NY and CA to piece these programs together needs FTTH.
If you like living in the past and do not want cutting edge employment in MS stay with horses and a buggy. I for one will leave without the tools needed in my trade.
You sound like a rep who doesn't know his product, or his audience. Take the first buggy out of town.

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