Tectonic Shift
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#23 Dec 14, 2012
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Yea, but there is no such thing as "truth, reason and knowledge"...
So 18 young grammar school children and 8 loving adults were assassinated by a 24 year old with two gun in Newtown Connecticut.
Left wing science

Bennington, VT

#24 Dec 14, 2012
you dont need god wrote:
Name one moral or ethical action or behaviour committed or carried out by a believer that could not have been committed or carried out by an atheist.
Name one immoral or unethical action or behaviour that has been committed or carried out in the name of God.
What about the philosophical approach to life the Jesus taught. It was a sea change in thinking. We celebrate Martin Luther King for being a great philosopher and leader. Everyone including you should want to celebrate the life of Jesus because so much about how we think of civil behaviour originated with him. The first Christian movement was secular and only later became a one god based religion. You can reject the son of god part of Christianity but you cannot reject the philosophical brotherly love that Jesus taught.
philosophical approach

Claremont, NH

#25 Dec 14, 2012
Left wing science wrote:
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What about the philosophical approach to life the Jesus taught. It was a sea change in thinking. We celebrate Martin Luther King for being a great philosopher and leader. Everyone including you should want to celebrate the life of Jesus because so much about how we think of civil behaviour originated with him. The first Christian movement was secular and only later became a one god based religion. You can reject the son of god part of Christianity but you cannot reject the philosophical brotherly love that Jesus taught.
That was hardly the beginning of morality. Civil behavior did NOT begin with christianity. And christians certainly have no claim on moral superiority.

Look we don't need to believe in superstitions to know what is moral behavior. When we rely on superstition and myths for our morals we are chained to the morality of an ancient people who by today's standards would be considered inhumane monsters.

Not only that but everybody has a different and often flawed interpretation of these superstitions because we cannot ever rationally discuss or agree on irrational superstitions.

Not everything Jesus taught and did was moral either and even if it was the religious are seemingly incapable of separating Jesus from the rest of the bible, which on the whole is just awful in regard to modern morals.

What people fail to realize too is that they think that the god they believe in is the same god everyone believes in, but that could not be further from the truth. Everyone's god is a personal delusion which is at odds with everyone Else's. People will never reach a consensus and will continue to hate, shun and kill in the name of their god for as long as this destructive delusion is seen as acceptable.

We don't need god to be good and if we grew up and accepted that god is not real and that we don't live forever in the afterlife there would be a lot more people being good and moral in this one short life we have.
philosophical approach

Claremont, NH

#26 Dec 14, 2012
Name one moral or ethical action or behaviour committed or carried out by a believer that could not have been committed or carried out by an atheist.

Name one immoral or unethical action or behaviour that has been committed or carried out in the name of God.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#27 Dec 14, 2012
All garbage!
philosophical approach

Claremont, NH

#28 Dec 14, 2012
50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/...
philosophical approach

Claremont, NH

#29 Dec 14, 2012
The Enemies Of Reason - Episode 1 - Slaves to Superstition
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#30 Dec 14, 2012
who cares?
philosophical approach

Claremont, NH

#31 Dec 14, 2012
The Enemies Of Reason - Episode 2 - The Irrational Health Service
you are wrong

Claremont, NH

#32 Dec 14, 2012
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Yea, but there is no such thing as "truth, reason and knowledge"...
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Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#33 Dec 14, 2012
Why are they always feeding us the extremist on either side....

The anonymity of topix just makes it worst.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#34 Dec 14, 2012
really, you should give this a try Mike, I have a feeling it would answer a lot of your questions:
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God TooBigFor Small Minds

Newton Center, MA

#35 Dec 14, 2012
Left wing science wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the philosophical approach to life the Jesus taught. It was a sea change in thinking. We celebrate Martin Luther King for being a great philosopher and leader. Everyone including you should want to celebrate the life of Jesus because so much about how we think of civil behaviour originated with him. The first Christian movement was secular and only later became a one god based religion. You can reject the son of god part of Christianity but you cannot reject the philosophical brotherly love that Jesus taught.
"What about the philosophical approach to life the Jesus taught. It was a sea change in thinking."
-Sea change...ppfffffttt We can see ewe are all wet! That man literally WALKED on the sea. Let's see Thich Nhat Hanh or whatever guru ewe follow try that, not to mention resurrecting the dead like Lazarus was or conjuring up a whole mess of food and wine for a crowd as many at a wedding party witnessed.
funny left wingnut, a phony right winger recently made a similarly dumb statement*

"The first Christian movement was secular and only later became a one god based religion."
- OMG ewe are totally all wet!

*Just last week the Weapon of Mass Distraction MSM had another one of their damn phony 'debates', this time playing the 'Christian' side was idiot entertainer and zionist warlover Bill O'Reilly versus David Silverman of the American Atheists group, and as usual it was a sick joke. I heard part of it replayed on an intelligent radio show I listen to.
Here's a piece someone wrote about the dumbass things O'Reilly said:

'Hey O’Reilly, Jesus is not a Philosopher'
http://blogs.christianpost.com/wretched/hey-o...

^Christianity is not a philosophy

Jesus never claimed to be a philosopher, He claimed to be God. That is why they killed him.

Philosophy seeks truth but Jesus proclaimed He Himself is the truth. Jesus did not ponder what might be right, He proclaimed what was absolutely true.

Philosophy is the pursuit of rational wisdom, religion is the pursuit of supernatural wisdom.

Christianity, while rational, is a belief system.

Philosophy has no authority. One philosopher’s claims are as valid as the next. Not so in Christianity, the Bible claims that the inspired Word of God is the sole standard of truth.

Philosophy changes with the times, Christianity does not.

Philosophy typically rejects the supernatural, Christianity embraces it.

Philosophy is man-made, Christianity is God-inspired.

Philosophy does not offer forgiveness of sins and everlasting life, Christianity does.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#37 Dec 15, 2012
Science and Atheism: Natural Allies
OccupyReality

Brattleboro, VT

#39 Dec 16, 2012
reality wrote:
<quoted text>
Firstly, I am arguing the pro truth, reason and knowledge vs superstitious lies theme.
Secondly, I assure you that I am quite secure in the knowledge that there most likely is no god.
Perhaps it is easier for you to project that I am having "symptoms" of insecurity than it is for you to accept the truth that there probably is no god.
Sounds like you are the one who is having symptoms of insecurity. Which is a better position than being sure of unreasonable superstition. Good for you Mike.
No, you are arguing your truth your reason and your knowledge and not THE TRUTH, THE REASON or THE KNOWLEDGE. No one cares if you don't believe in god. Especially all the people who you don't tell. Try just letting other people believe what they want an in all likelihood they will let you believe whatever you want.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#40 Dec 16, 2012
Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.

Voltaire
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#41 Dec 16, 2012
OccupyReality wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you are arguing your truth your reason and your knowledge and not THE TRUTH, THE REASON or THE KNOWLEDGE. No one cares if you don't believe in god. Especially all the people who you don't tell. Try just letting other people believe what they want an in all likelihood they will let you believe whatever you want.
Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth.

H.L. Mencken
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#42 Dec 16, 2012
If you think about it, it's deep unresolved anger that never wants to be resolved.
sounds like

Claremont, NH

#43 Dec 16, 2012
Mike Mulligan wrote:
If you think about it, it's deep unresolved anger that never wants to be resolved.
You mean religion, right?
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#44 Dec 16, 2012
Naw, the anti god guys.

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