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While reading the Reformer's splendid editorial "Reaching for the Stars" , I shared their sense of "awe and wonder" at putting humans into space.
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Scott

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Dec 9, 2010
 
estanson wrote:
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I used hippie to describe the anti-VY pro-legal pot crew...
even though i support both of those and don't consider myself a hippie...
I also think the decision in the fairly recent CA medical marijuana case, essentially that 2 old ladies who grow weed in their back yard is interstate commerce based upon the cumulative effect of homegrown on the illegal interstate market...
its a VERY dnagerous precedent especially given the recent legislation on food...
yes the fed currently has authority over what you grow only for your own consumption in your own back yard!
I believe the FED cannot reach inside the state at all...but they sure as heck cant reach into my own property under a clause granting them a right to regulate "commerce amongst the states".
What? someone who is unprofessionally growing a dozen or so scraggly plants which would likely yield less than a pound of plain smokeable bud final product is no 'cumulative' or bad effect at all on anything!-except that if the two women growers do it for their own smoke every year then it means the local small time pot dealer gets less business. The marijuana tax act of 1938 is no more Constitutional than the prohibition amendment was, which was overturned with another amendment cuz the first was ruled as UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Lincoln said that a prohibition is wrong and makes criminals out of good people. What Washington did to the Whiskey Rebellion guys was rather fascist/tyrannical, and in 1993 we saw the unconstitutionally existing and acting "BATF" and "FBI" murder almost 90 people in Waco Texas. Watch the Academy Award nominee "Waco The Rules of Engagement" on youtube or googlevideo
No the govt. can't tell you not to grow a garden in your yard!(of food as you were saying)!!! What got snuck in to a bigger bill and passed the other day (Senate 510) is more regulation on those who Transport food, generally big producers but we gotta make sure they don't go too far as with anything the govt does. The govt. which has too much undue influence from big agra IS helping them steal the family farms and the way it used to be. The New World Order isn't just about the banksters who own the "Federal" reserve and are second to China in owning our treasury notes etc., it's about food control as the UN officials and people like Kissinger have admitted they want. Don't be stinkin thinkin like sheeple, that we are 'losing our rights', they are being infringed yes, but we DO have the absolute right o take them back, with force if neccesary -the reason the founders enumerated the Second Amendment.

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S. Londonderry VT

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Dec 10, 2010
 
Scott wrote:
As for a "power grab?", has the fed NRC etc. tried to claim it has overrule ability, as if they can absolutely deny Vermont it's right to stop VY from legally operating here? I haven't heard that the chessboard moves have got there yet unless someone points out different?
Slight misunderstanding.

I happen to agree & have long said that Feds having authority over VT is simply untrue to Entergy supporters, pronuclear claque & employees who have claimed from jumpstreet that PSB has no jurisdiction & that VT cannot overide NRCs sole authority, w/one employee recently claiming it will be in court 20-40 years.

Chairman Jaczko stated when in VT for the meeting w/critics last summer said NRC would not attempt to overide VTs legislative decision(s) & that he did not see VT as violating NRCs turf or purview which is solely theirs, safety.

CLF made clear it sees Entergy as having signed off on agreeing to VT legislative authority in mou as well as sale.

VT also has Act 160 which further clarifies legislative authority, so a fools errand to mess with it, but that has never stopped them so who knows what they will do.

Act 189 is another layer of legislation.

The 'power grab' is the executive branch attempting to force agenda on states such as Arizona & claim border enforecment not up to state, this is but one of several recent actions.

Executive branch then tried to use DOJ & Supreme Court as arms for its actions showing the lengths they will go to overide the states if not marching in lockstep to their regime.
estanson

Bellows Falls, VT

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Dec 10, 2010
 
Scott wrote:
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No the govt. can't tell you not to grow a garden in your yard!(of food as you were saying)!!!.
From what i have read its an open question about the reach of that statute...of course the crazie lib reps of ours swear it cant ...

but my point was that if what you grow in your garden has a cumulative effect on the interstate weed market ), arguably, your home veggie garden is also reachable...
not that the goverment HAS done that, but they clearly CAN.
What you produce in your yard for your own consumption is interstate commerce!(read the SCOTUS case Raich v Ashcroft relying on Wickard v Filburn).

Like i said, all it will take is some federal gun laws and we will have some more talk about succession...
Scott

Bellows Falls, VT

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Dec 10, 2010
 
estanson wrote:
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From what i have read its an open question about the reach of that statute...of course the crazie lib reps of ours swear it cant ...
but my point was that if what you grow in your garden has a cumulative effect on the interstate weed market ), arguably, your home veggie garden is also reachable...
not that the goverment HAS done that, but they clearly CAN.
What you produce in your yard for your own consumption is interstate commerce!(read the SCOTUS case Raich v Ashcroft relying on Wickard v Filburn).
Like i said, all it will take is some federal gun laws and we will have some more talk about succession...
-also making the point that the feds are out of control, this article on Raich v Ashcroft etc-> http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503d.asp
"not that the goverment HAS done that, but they clearly CAN."
- No they CAN'T! Here is the difference between POWER and Authority, and when tyrants don't have the authority they tend to try to do what they want anyway- using (unauthorized) Power, acting under the Color of Law which is a crime and the worst that we can let our public SERVANTS get away with. It's our right and duty to stand up to tyranny and bad laws. Do so now or wake up soon in a 1984 New World Order that you won't be able to put down.
Police State and anti-individual freedom proponent senator upChuck Schumer has constantly tried to get his anti-Second Amendment bill passed but he can't get enough fellow scum tyrants to go along with it. But even if he did and it passed- that WOULD NOT mean we no longer have that as an individual right!!! The Second Amendment IS a law, one we wrote that criminals like Schumer might soon need us to exercise on them by us.
As I understand it, the famous cases of Miranda v Arizona and Marbury v Madison basically stated that just because a law is passed doesn't mean it's written in stone from God- they said an unconstitutional law is null & void from its inception- meaning that if can show and know it violates your rights, you can ignore it! And we must draw the line and enforce it not being crossed or else abdicate our rights like worthless pathetic sheep)
*Listen to Alex Jones and his great guests for all this patriot/freedom talk at www.infowars.com www.prisonplanet.com

"arguably, your home veggie garden is also reachable..."
-any fed or other on my property reaching for my vegetable plant might find themselves blown up by my boobytrap, then me and my militia buddies will look in his wallet for his home address and pay a visit to that fed's family and turn them all into an overcooked stew as the feds did to those innocent women and children at Waco. That's not a 'threat' to would be tyrants but a promise.
You have NO rights UNLESS you:
1- know them all, 2- know where they come from (they're NOT FROM the Constitution!) and 3- are willing to enforce them to the death if neccesary.
The 'Wizard of Oz Prerequisites' needed by nonsheeple patriots are having a Brain (figure it out) a Heart (shivagit) and Courage (take a stand).

"all it will take is some federal gun laws and we will have some more talk about succession"
-you mean secession, and that talk can be found at www.vtcommons.org y'all
talk is cheap though,'Lock & Load' and 'Don't shoot until you see the black of their SWAT vests' is more like the kind of talk real patriots will be saying when they try to completely undue our individual right of bearing arms.
estanson

Bellows Falls, VT

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Dec 10, 2010
 
Scott wrote:
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-also making the point that the feds are out of control, this article on Raich v Ashcroft etc-> http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503d.asp
"not that the goverment HAS done that, but they clearly CAN."
- No they CAN'T! Here is the difference between POWER and Authority, and when tyrants don't have the authority they tend to try to do what they want anyway- using (unauthorized) Power, acting under the Color of Law -you mean secession, and that talk can be found at www.vtcommons.org y'all
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great sites and information.

I hope you caught that I am on your side and I agree they can't but WILL try...

where were you when the Brown's needed your help....

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