Illinois Senate approves ban on smoki...

Illinois Senate approves ban on smoking in public places

There are 69 comments on the Journal-Gazette story from Mar 30, 2007, titled Illinois Senate approves ban on smoking in public places. In it, Journal-Gazette reports that:

“We spend billions of dollars of taxpayers' money in health care”

All restaurants and bars across Illinois would have to go smoke-free under legislation approved Thursday by the state Senate. via Journal-Gazette

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Tommy

United States

#2 Apr 7, 2007
Just wondering, have our great legislators banned smoking in their workplace?

Since: Jan 07

Ohio

#3 Apr 8, 2007
Tommy wrote:
Just wondering, have our great legislators banned smoking in their workplace?
They are to busy counting the bonus money they got from the 'big foundation' behind all the no-smoke issues and laws!
Linda

United States

#5 Apr 8, 2007
Wake up smell the coffee

Greensboro, NC

#6 Apr 9, 2007
Gotta say Thank you IL for joioning OH, MI,TX, NY, DC, CA, NC, FL, WI, NJ, MD, PA and all the rest of the states for either enacting a smoking ban or seriously working towards one.
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#7 Apr 9, 2007
Wake up smell the coffee wrote:
Gotta say Thank you IL for joioning OH, MI,TX, NY, DC, CA, NC, FL, WI, NJ, MD, PA and all the rest of the states for either enacting a smoking ban or seriously working towards one.
Your welcome....from Illinois!
Tommy

United States

#8 Apr 9, 2007
What really bothers me is when my neighbors use their grills. All that smoke, and who knows what all fumes are being released with that charcoal! When the wind is right it goes right into my house. I don't want my kids getting sick from that, and it makes my house smell. I have the right to have my windows open on a nice day.

Another thing that bothers me is the smell of wine from all those alcoholics that have to drink with their dinner at restaurants. The smell of alcohol just ruins the taste of a good meal. I have the right to enjoy a meal that I paid good money for.

I don't think they should put houses near highways. It's a health hazard with all those fumes and brake dust and noise and stuff. It's bad for the kids. They're going to grow up with breathing problems and probably get cancer.

I'm going to contact my representative to see if we can ban this stuff.

Did I miss anything?

You're getting a good laugh out of that, aren't you? But if they can do it to smokers, they can do it to you too. And eventually they will. Just a heads-up for what's coming.
John_ Galesburg

Louisville, KY

#9 Apr 20, 2007
To our government officials.
Please ban this ridiculus practice. Smoking is KILLING us in the workplace.
Smokers are drug addicts. They know not what they do.
candid

AOL

#13 Apr 21, 2007
John_ Galesburg wrote:
To our government officials.
Please ban this ridiculus practice. Smoking is KILLING us in the workplace.
Smokers are drug addicts. They know not what they do.
Some smokers DO know what they are doing,they just don't care.
Linda

United States

#14 Apr 21, 2007
The public should not be allowed to dictate to the business owners how they operate as smoking or nonsmoking. Let the owner decide and the public can make the choice by which one they choose to go to.

Once the public starts to dictate legal business an dpersonal rights, what next?
Linda

United States

#15 Apr 21, 2007
There are three classes

1. Smokers, who have many non-smoking friends & family

2. Non-smokers, who have many smoking friends & family

3. Anti's, who want to control both smokers & nonsmokers along with their friends and families
Bill Hannegan

United States

#16 Apr 21, 2007
Wake up smell the coffee wrote:
Gotta say Thank you IL for joioning OH, MI,TX, NY, DC, CA, NC, FL, WI, NJ, MD, PA and all the rest of the states for either enacting a smoking ban or seriously working towards one.
Bars going out of business and kids breathing more smoke, what is not to like about a smoking ban?

Since: Mar 07

Breese, IL

#17 Apr 21, 2007
Bill Hannegan wrote:
<quoted text>
Bars going out of business and kids breathing more smoke, what is not to like about a smoking ban?
People are too busy using their tunnel vision logic to understand that this is all setting the precidence needed for other bans that will be following in the next several years. You're laughing now cause you got to gore someone elses ox. I'll bet you and all the non-smokers will be screaming from the mountain tops about your "rights" when it's your turn, and eventually it WILL be your turn.
Bill Hannegan

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Apr 22, 2007
Illinois lawmakers now know that bar and restaurant smoking bans backfire and cause the most vulnerable nonsmokers, especially young children, to breathe more secondhand smoke. This knowledge may very well kill the Illinois smoking ban.

http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/...
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications.php...
http://www.esrc.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/about/CI...
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/media/library/smokingban
Tired

Greensboro, NC

#19 Apr 22, 2007
Bill Hannegan wrote:
Illinois lawmakers now know that bar and restaurant smoking bans backfire and cause the most vulnerable nonsmokers, especially young children, to breathe more secondhand smoke. This knowledge may very well kill the Illinois smoking ban.
http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/...
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications.php...
http://www.esrc.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/about/CI...
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/media/library/smokingban
Actually, at this point, it is unlikely that any ban will be killed for a long period of time.The non-smokers outnumber the smokers and they want clean air.
Krista B

Blue Springs, MO

#23 Apr 28, 2007
Bill Hannegan wrote:
Illinois lawmakers now know that bar and restaurant smoking bans backfire and cause the most vulnerable nonsmokers, especially young children, to breathe more secondhand smoke. This knowledge may very well kill the Illinois smoking ban.
http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/...
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications.php...
http://www.esrc.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/about/CI...
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/media/library/smokingban
Bill,

I'm not sure what you're talking about.. how exactly do you think these bans will backfire? And how exactly do they cause young children to breathe more secondhand smoke? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a smoker. It's smokers like you who are selfish and care only about your "right" to smoke--not others' right to breathe clean air. In case you don't know, ANYONE who is exposed to secondhand smoke for ANY period of time is harmfully affected and exposed to much of the same health risks as smokers.

What must be recognized is that public smoking exposes second-hand smoke to others and causes them to participate in what the American Cancer Society has identified as involuntary smoking. The range of victims of involuntary smoking goes beyond the normal, average healthy adult, and may include children, pregnant women, and the elderly, who are affected more powerfully than healthy adults. The list of risks that secondhand smoke causes is really unreal and it includes lung cancer, blood clotting, heart attack, asthma, stroke, heart disease, and in pregnant women, underweight births and still births. You CANNOT argue with the FACTS. This has all been medically proven. My advise to you is to 1. GET OVER IT and 2. I know you don't care about smoking around strangers, but don't smoke around anyone you love. It really IS putting them at risk.
Krista B

Blue Springs, MO

#24 Apr 28, 2007
Tommy wrote:
What really bothers me is when my neighbors use their grills. All that smoke, and who knows what all fumes are being released with that charcoal! When the wind is right it goes right into my house. I don't want my kids getting sick from that, and it makes my house smell. I have the right to have my windows open on a nice day.
Another thing that bothers me is the smell of wine from all those alcoholics that have to drink with their dinner at restaurants. The smell of alcohol just ruins the taste of a good meal. I have the right to enjoy a meal that I paid good money for.
I don't think they should put houses near highways. It's a health hazard with all those fumes and brake dust and noise and stuff. It's bad for the kids. They're going to grow up with breathing problems and probably get cancer.
I'm going to contact my representative to see if we can ban this stuff.
Did I miss anything?
You're getting a good laugh out of that, aren't you? But if they can do it to smokers, they can do it to you too. And eventually they will. Just a heads-up for what's coming.
Just so you know:

This is not an argument about preference
or comfort--secondhand smoke is a pollutant that causes serious health risks to those exposed.

It's not about the smell or the annoyance of having someone else's cigarette smoke blowing in your face when you're trying to enjoy a drink or a meal--although that is a good argument on its own. You can't argue with the facts--secondhand smoke is dangerous for ANYONE'S health.
Johnboy

Moline, IL

#25 Apr 29, 2007
You like to smoke I can understand but the smoke is a byproduct of your pleasure. It gets in my clothes, my hair and my lungs. I like to drink. When I do, urine is the byproduct. Would you like it if I stood on a chair and pissed all over your hair and clothes and in your lungs? I mean, it's my right to pee.
Bill Hannegan

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Apr 29, 2007
Krista, any kind of smoke can be dangerous if sufficiently concentrated. But the amount of smoke one breathes working in a decently ventilated bar or restaurant isn't enough to worry about. At most it equals one cigarette per 40 hour week.

Please click on the first link of the stack I posted and tell me what you think of the research that concluded smoking bans backfire and hurt kids.
Krista B wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill,
I'm not sure what you're talking about.. how exactly do you think these bans will backfire? And how exactly do they cause young children to breathe more secondhand smoke? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a smoker. It's smokers like you who are selfish and care only about your "right" to smoke--not others' right to breathe clean air. In case you don't know, ANYONE who is exposed to secondhand smoke for ANY period of time is harmfully affected and exposed to much of the same health risks as smokers.
What must be recognized is that public smoking exposes second-hand smoke to others and causes them to participate in what the American Cancer Society has identified as involuntary smoking. The range of victims of involuntary smoking goes beyond the normal, average healthy adult, and may include children, pregnant women, and the elderly, who are affected more powerfully than healthy adults. The list of risks that secondhand smoke causes is really unreal and it includes lung cancer, blood clotting, heart attack, asthma, stroke, heart disease, and in pregnant women, underweight births and still births. You CANNOT argue with the FACTS. This has all been medically proven. My advise to you is to 1. GET OVER IT and 2. I know you don't care about smoking around strangers, but don't smoke around anyone you love. It really IS putting them at risk.
Bill Hannegan

Saint Louis, MO

#27 Apr 29, 2007
Johnboy wrote:
You like to smoke I can understand but the smoke is a byproduct of your pleasure. It gets in my clothes, my hair and my lungs. I like to drink. When I do, urine is the byproduct. Would you like it if I stood on a chair and pissed all over your hair and clothes and in your lungs? I mean, it's my right to pee.
Johnboy, aren't watersports legal on private property? I just don't go to places that tolerare them.
Sue

Macungie, PA

#28 Apr 29, 2007
Wake up smell the coffee wrote:
Gotta say Thank you IL for joioning OH, MI,TX, NY, DC, CA, NC, FL, WI, NJ, MD, PA and all the rest of the states for either enacting a smoking ban or seriously working towards one.
FYI Pa does not have a smoking ban. Philadelphia and Scranton does however.
Also, The northeastern part of the state is going very well without a state imposed smoking ban. Many businesses are making decisions on their own without the state (big brother) telling them how to run them. Quite a few in this area are going "smoke free" on their own.
That is a giant step to show other states, that it CAN be done without dictatorship, which results in the small business owner able to keep his lively hood.
There are many choices in this area. No bickering, or loss of income. Freedom of choice. This is what this country is all about. When purchasing something
in the state you reside in is legal, it is still about choice, albeit with certain limitations. Just as most things are. It just shouldn't be regulated by government when it is still considered "legal". It is about what the businesses decide in order to make a living. We as a people can then decide what business to frequent.

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