Vernon City Clerk placed on leave/Attacks Councilwoman

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witnesstomadness

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Dec 11, 2008
 

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Vernon City Council placed City Clerk on administrative leave pending the outcome of an ongoing investigation by FDLE.
Councilwoman Brewer brought information to the table at a City Meeting Monday night and informed city officials that while she could not elaborate on all the information she had knowledge of because of the investigation, she could tell them that because of the investigation it had been uncovered that the Clerk wasn't doing her job, there are issues with the budget, city bank accounts not being reconciled and totals not reflecting same balances given by clerk. Also it was indicated that the books are a year behind. Brewer advised city officials to contact FDLE themselves if interested in everything that had been uncovered to date.
McKeithen seemed to want to agree with Brewer,(except for the blowing sighs) according to the way he voted, but the rest of council that was onhand acted more like they wished it could all be swept under the rug, ending in a tie vote when Brewer motioned to call for an emergency audit to sort everything out and do as advised by The State Auditor's Office.
After the meeting was adjourned the Clerk turned on Brewer, snatched her by the arm and stated "you can be a f*^*^*^ b*^*^!

Brewer and McKeithen seemed to have the best interest of the city at heart according to their actions Monday night, but they were the only ones across the table from the public that did. The others came off as indecisive and at times oblivious to the information being provided to them.
The City Attorney was rude and unprofessional, even provoking to other citizens at the meeting, it was embarrassing to watch.

Action should have been immediately taken on the behavior of the clerk. She should have been arrested and fired for her attack on Brewer.
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A complaint was filed with the WCSO of the attack of a public official. City Council Officials are responsible for taking further action in this matter, city policy requires it, and the citizens of Vernon expect it to be carried out.
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Well, council took action alright, but instead of firing her the idiots brought her back and are allowing her to oversee another audit. Looks like the only city official with a brain is Brewer and she was unable to attend the special called meeting. Another audit nor bring the clerk back was on the agenda, but that didn't stop em.
Is there anybody anywhere that can get this city under some real control?
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Dec 15, 2008
 
I'm sure there is somebody somewhere that will do something about all of this, the question is when?
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Dec 16, 2008
 
The public documents are there to prove the Clerk needs to be removed permanently. Council have went against their own policies in not acting on the information and on the 4 written repremands against the Clerk. Bringing her back to oversee another audit is as ridiculous as taking her word for the last one. If Council would review the audit report they've already received, they'd know they have no choice but to let her go.
Vernon voter

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Cobb did not attack Brewer; she shook her finger in her face. Brewer did not file a complaint; who would believe her anyway after all the lies she has told to accomplish her agenda? Council has no power to sanction Cobb for an alleged act. If it was (and it wasn't) assault, only the WCSO can handle it. Vernon is a joke of the worse sort. Always has been. Always will be. I tend to agree with recent comments that suggest the city be dissolved. It's broke anyway, what with a $6 million sewer plant, which DEP required and a city hall complex with no tenants (who would want to rent from these morons - they'd sign a lease one day and four days later void it) and astronomical insurance and light bills. Not to mention pending lawsuits of every variety. If you have one in mind, a lawsuit that is, stand in line, the list of litigants is long but not very distinguished.
witnesstomadness wrote:
Vernon City Council placed City Clerk on administrative leave pending the outcome of an ongoing investigation by FDLE.
Councilwoman Brewer brought information to the table at a City Meeting Monday night and informed city officials that while she could not elaborate on all the information she had knowledge of because of the investigation, she could tell them that because of the investigation it had been uncovered that the Clerk wasn't doing her job, there are issues with the budget, city bank accounts not being reconciled and totals not reflecting same balances given by clerk. Also it was indicated that the books are a year behind. Brewer advised city officials to contact FDLE themselves if interested in everything that had been uncovered to date.
McKeithen seemed to want to agree with Brewer,(except for the blowing sighs) according to the way he voted, but the rest of council that was onhand acted more like they wished it could all be swept under the rug, ending in a tie vote when Brewer motioned to call for an emergency audit to sort everything out and do as advised by The State Auditor's Office.
After the meeting was adjourned the Clerk turned on Brewer, snatched her by the arm and stated "you can be a f*^*^*^ b*^*^!
Brewer and McKeithen seemed to have the best interest of the city at heart according to their actions Monday night, but they were the only ones across the table from the public that did. The others came off as indecisive and at times oblivious to the information being provided to them.
The City Attorney was rude and unprofessional, even provoking to other citizens at the meeting, it was embarrassing to watch.
Action should have been immediately taken on the behavior of the clerk. She should have been arrested and fired for her attack on Brewer.
Vernon voter

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No one took Cobb's word for the last audit. The document is in city hall and available for public review. Cobb did not write the audit findings, the auditor did. Get a clue out there. Get involved, all of you. Don't hide behind Topix. Go to the meetings and voice your opinions. Better yet, go to the polls and vote. Only about 100 of you do at any given election and there are a lot more voters in Vernon than that - about 80% more.
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The public documents are there to prove the Clerk needs to be removed permanently. Council have went against their own policies in not acting on the information and on the 4 written repremands against the Clerk. Bringing her back to oversee another audit is as ridiculous as taking her word for the last one. If Council would review the audit report they've already received, they'd know they have no choice but to let her go.
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The last two responses from Vernon Voter out of Enterprise Al are another smoke screen, designed to steer eyes away from the issues. Case and point... The audit report clearly states that the descrepancy was reported by the city TO the auditor, after the auditors had just finished their findings. The audit report findings do not reflect the descrepancy defined by the city office. The audit report notes the city's notification. The audit report also specifically states that accounts were not being reconciled and requested that Council do something about it.
Nobody said the Clerk wrote the audit findings.

Brewer DID file a complaint with the WCSO as any "good reporter" or interested citizen could easily check into.

The documents are in plain english and a matter of public record. Go ask for a copy of the audit report and read it for yourself, while you're there also request copies of bank statements for the year and documents as to their reconciliation, don't forget the new city hall account, and this years budget report for starters, I'd suggest ending with a request for information concerning 4 written repremands in the Clerk's permanent file.

Anyone can group big words together to make themselves and others think them important, generally ending in false delusions that only leave the writer and reader of them empty.
Plain talk is more easily understood and practical use of common sense tends to leave you more satisfied. Its not rocket science folks, its evidence in black and white that proves the clerk should be terminated.
vernon citizen

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With respect to your response vernon voter concerning a lease signing one day, and 4 days later voiding it, I believe that one, since Council sent Clerk home on Monday and then on Friday called a meeting Brewer wasn't able to attend to reinstate the Clerk. What's ridiculous is they cited that they'd been misinformed, yet never broached any of the documentation presented several times previously involving the direct need for the admin leave. Proving they didn't care what the Clerk had done, they just want to keep her. What is even worse is that citizens attended that meeting and asked that it not be handled in that way since the public wasn't notified by agenda of the actual purpose of their agenda, and they still argued their way into doing what they wanted.
Cheryl Withrow

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Don't believe everything you read, Note 12 on page 28 of the 06-07 audit is incorrect. I was in the office the day the auditor informed the clerk that there was $24,000 missing from the water/sewer fund. The clerk did not tell them. Ask Vivian Brewer or Al Mani; they were both there. Teresa from Grimsley, Cavin & Company, P.A. out of Marianna was the accountant who broke the news. Furthermore, there is an additional $16,000+ missing since the end of the audit, Sept. 30, 2007. This whole thing is ridiculous. The money is gone and that's that. I'd guess I'd have to ask, at this point, when is something going to be done about it?????
vernon voter

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Dec 17, 2008
 
So now we're being told not to believe what is printed in black and white but to believe what someone says about all this. My question is which is it? Do we believe what we hear and not what we see, or believe what we see and nothing that we hear?

Somehow this just doesn't line up.
Cheryl Withrow

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You all know me and know that what I report is true, so consider this a newspaper article. Feel free to check my witnesses. Both Vivian and Al, as well as Sherry were there when Teresa said there was a discrepancy. Everyone was speechless. Better yet, call Teresa and ask her; she discovered it NOT the city.
vernon voter wrote:
So now we're being told not to believe what is printed in black and white but to believe what someone says about all this. My question is which is it? Do we believe what we hear and not what we see, or believe what we see and nothing that we hear?
Somehow this just doesn't line up.
WTC

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I don't know you personally, seen you round town is all, and I agree with previous postings here that something about all of this stinks. I've been to these meetings and heard as well as seen some of the documents that pertain to these matters. Surely you're not trying to make anyone believe that all of the documents are mistakes?
Its irrelevent to me who found the issue, whats important is what caused it, and its obvious that the Clerk wasn't doing her job properly.
vernon voter

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Dec 18, 2008
 
Its all artificially coloring, it looks good, but has no taste and usually isn't very good for you.
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Dec 18, 2008
 
vernon voter wrote:
Its all artificially coloring, it looks good, but has no taste and usually isn't very good for you.
Excellent analysis!
Cheryl Withrow

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I am certainly not saying these documents are incorrect. They are painfully correct. For the record, in addition to the the $24K uncovered by the audit, there is an additional $16K + from the end of the audit, Sept. 30, 2007 until May 31, 2008. What is unbelievable is that nothing has been done about it. It's like no one who can do anything about it has. I realize it is irrelevant as to who found out the money was missing, I was just trying to set the record straight about the audit report, which is wrong.
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I don't know you personally, seen you round town is all, and I agree with previous postings here that something about all of this stinks. I've been to these meetings and heard as well as seen some of the documents that pertain to these matters. Surely you're not trying to make anyone believe that all of the documents are mistakes?
Its irrelevent to me who found the issue, whats important is what caused it, and its obvious that the Clerk wasn't doing her job properly.
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Dec 18, 2008
 
If the audit report is wrong then how can anyone
be sure of anything? Aren't most audits run for a year period, why sept 07 to may of 08? The above posting appears contradicting.
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Dec 19, 2008
 
Cheryl, why did you resign?
Cheryl Withrow

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Curious - Audits are done for the fiscal year, which is Oct. 1 in one year to Sept. 30 in the other. This is true for all municipalities in the state. The state of Florida's fiscal year, however, runs from July 1 in one year to June 30 in the next.
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If the audit report is wrong then how can anyone
be sure of anything? Aren't most audits run for a year period, why sept 07 to may of 08? The above posting appears contradicting.
Cheryl Withrow

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Curious too - I left because I got a fantastic offer I could not turn down. Moe and Brenda Pujol, who ran the Washington County News before Freedom Florida bought it, have purchased the Geneva County Reaper, the Samson Ledger and the Hartord News-Herald as well as the Opp News. Having worked for them before as managing editor of the WCN and most recently as editor of Advrtyz-It, they offered me the editor's job at the Geneva newspapers. With a considerable pay increase and great benefits, even with the long drive (the papers' office is in Geneva) I couldn't turn it down. Besides, the turmoil at the City proved to be just too much for my liking. As a friend of mine so aptly put it.'It's better to write the news than to be it.' Give me a call if you want to talk more about it and thanks for asking.
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Cheryl, why did you resign?

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