Bethlehem casino still on schedule, b...

Bethlehem casino still on schedule, but it'll cost more

There are 50 comments on the The Morning Call story from Nov 11, 2008, titled Bethlehem casino still on schedule, but it'll cost more. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Las Vegas Sands is forging ahead with its Bethlehem casino development, in which overruns appear to have pushed the cost past $900 million, even as the company scales back a $12 billion project in Macau, China.

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Chloe

Salfordville, PA

#1 Nov 11, 2008
I am so glad to hear this news. I cannot wait until the casino opens. Hopefully when the economy turns around then the balance of the project will be comleted. For all the people complaining about the casino I am sure then didn't complain when their school taxes went down.
Resident

Allentown, PA

#2 Nov 11, 2008
Since the economy is slumping, should costs go down since there is less demand? I may be rusty on my economics, but don't supply and demand factor in here?
Watchdog

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#3 Nov 11, 2008
Better for the local businesses in Bethelehem that only the casino is opening at this time since the local shops and hotels might actually get some spillover business as a result of casino visitors.

The restaurants are still being built along with the casino presumably so those restaurants will be taking away some local customers from the existing restaurants.

Under the larger plan for the mall and hotel that the Mayor wants to keep pushing, the casino complex would capture all the business on site and instead of encouraging benefits to the existing local businesses.

The Mayor needs to start thinking about the viability of his existing businesses rather than constantly pushing to create a new downtown Bethlehem on the steel site.
slots player

Silver Spring, MD

#4 Nov 11, 2008
Sands will go all out to finish this fast. Its their best opurtunity to improve results.

With Philadelphia not moving ahead, this site will be gold to them.
huh

Malvern, PA

#5 Nov 11, 2008
Where will the money come from for people to play , Atlantic city is dead compared from what it use to be ?

More crime and drugs to fuel their gambling habit since there are no jobs ? This is the lowest unemployment rate since 1967!

The last thing you need is a casino sucking up any and all of the disposable income we don't have !

Go look at the Downs TV horse track in Allentown , you will see the shady bunch that frequents the place , welcome to Bethlehem !
bleeding heart

Allentown, PA

#6 Nov 11, 2008
bleeding heart for the casino companies for the expense over-runs. when people do this, do they not have contracts to protect their price. they are as bad as government!
didnot someone tell them we pulled the plugs here for the surroundings?
ginnys

Allentown, PA

#7 Nov 11, 2008
the mayor could care less about the current business and restaurants. he prvoed that with pushing ginnys place off the map. maybe if that would have happened to a few of the high scahled places, he would have thought different.
Roger

Allentown, PA

#8 Nov 11, 2008
This project's Phase One WILL eventually be completed as planned. Many of us are happy that the commitment from the Sands is still in place. They could have simply stopped it all.

Watchdog's critique of Callahan is unfair. We ALL want the entire project, Phases one through four, to be completed someday. The local businesses already in operation WILL be blessed with more business throughout the build out. All boats will be floated. But the city needs those jobs at that new hotel and convention center. The casino portion of this project is the means to an end of a convention mecca on the east coast. It's much bigger than Main Street or even the Hotel Bethlehem. Those folks WILL benefit from the total buildout. Callahan's been right all along.

Councilman Schweder's comments in the Express Times continue to reflect his unrealistic and stubborn unwillingness to accept any variations or delays-- no matter that the nation's economy is ashambles. These are extraordinary times necessitating extraordinary measures.
Let Freedom Ring

AOL

#9 Nov 11, 2008
Mayor Callahan can't do squat when it comes to this development proceeding or slowing down. This project like all others is driven by the economy and market conditions.

And yes, Callahan has thrown all of his eggs into the casino basket at the expense of many other sectors of the community. That's because he's an opportunist and needs the casino revenue for his city budgets, and a huge economic development project like this for his resume.

City Council should receive a public update from Sands officials so that anyone who wants to hear it can attend. After all, it was the total project that local elected officials bought into.

And, now that the project apparently will not proceed as originally planned, watch the political two-step shuffle start up for local and state officials.
Taxes Down

United States

#10 Nov 11, 2008
Chloe wrote:
I am so glad to hear this news. I cannot wait until the casino opens. Hopefully when the economy turns around then the balance of the project will be comleted. For all the people complaining about the casino I am sure then didn't complain when their school taxes went down.
I am glad your taxes went down. The rest of got just enough to cover what the taxes went up.
duke of poland

Bethlehem, PA

#11 Nov 11, 2008
cowardhan wants the money to go to the general fun NOT taxes
Roger

Allentown, PA

#14 Nov 11, 2008
But, in the end, Bethlehem is gonna be all right and still be the gem of the LV cities.

We are fully aware that only Mr. Adelson and the economy has anything at all to do with the progress of this project.

Insofar as the "general fun" and taxes...that's all politics. The city's existing debt should dictate where the money should go, not the political whims and aspirations of wannabe potential future mayors. Tax relief will come with the taxes the complex pays on the real estate and the taxes the workers pay who live here. This project will help with the tax burden in the future just as Bethlehem Steel did in the past. They will be good stewards of the community. But to give Joe SixPack a cut up front is lousy management when you've got a debt the size of Bethlehem's. It may get votes, but it isn't the right thing to do at this point.

Gdub

Cambridge, MA

#15 Nov 11, 2008
Most of you are deluded about this project, and have been from the beginning.

1. Allowing the casino to control outside development will lead to sure disaster. Casinos do not want to see people come to Bethlehem to park the car, enjoy the sights, take in a meal or two at local restaurants, or shop at the Moravian bookshop. They want you to go to the casino, spend money, and eat at the casino. "Spillover", as with sports stadiums designed to do the same thing, is illusory.

2. Given the terrible financial condition of the Sands, it stands to reason that the "contribution" to local and property tax coffers is going to be a lot smaller. Does anyone actually have data on this from cities that have casinos? Is it such a great deal in the long run?

3. At least people are being honest about table games. It was complete foolishness to think that any enterprise could be built on slot machines. Now that it might be built, politicians are going to have to guarantee that the casino stays afloat financially, since the city and state are financially dependent on its revenues. Democratic control of this community will be lost.

Not only the people inside the casino become addicts, but all of us who believe this somehow will change the fundamentals of government in the valley. Too bad.
hope

Flagstaff, AZ

#16 Nov 11, 2008
I can't believe you people think "good" is going to come out of "bad". Desperate fathers will lose money gambling, their children will go hungry and become homeless, and widows will weep with sorrow. Prostitution and crime will increase. What in the world were you thinking?
anu

AOL

#17 Nov 11, 2008
11:10 and Las Vegas Sands didn't open yet on the NYSE. Whas up ? No money from China to bail them out or is it people are just not frequenting Casino's .
anu

AOL

#18 Nov 11, 2008
Even the whorehouses in vegas are taking it in the butt

“"You Can't Handle The Truth.."”

Since: May 07

Whitehall, Pa

#19 Nov 11, 2008
"Bethlehem's CHICKENS... have come home, to ROOST!!!..."
Sexy Italian Girl

Clifton, NJ

#20 Nov 11, 2008
True American wrote:
Now is the time to get TABLE GAMES approved.
Slots won't be enough to draw people.
Agreed! Bad times mean aggressive measures, table games would be perfect right now, screw the slots they have had really poor payouts in the past few years and most gamblers know that by now!
Snowman

Falls Church, VA

#21 Nov 11, 2008
Sexy Italian Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed! Bad times mean aggressive measures, table games would be perfect right now, screw the slots they have had really poor payouts in the past few years and most gamblers know that by now!
They need a sports book, too.
David J Bhaltazhar Esq

AOL

#22 Nov 11, 2008
This is a terrible shame.

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