Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#13874 Nov 18, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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May help explain why they are number one as well. ;-D
I certainly agree...ignorant people eat it up.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#13875 Nov 18, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
May help explain why they are number one as well. ;-D
You know, there have been a slew of musicians that have sat on the top of the charts in sales whose work really sucked, while others far more talented toiled away in relative obscurity and poverty.

Abba comes to mind. For the flip side of that equation, here's reference to two:



woof
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13876 Nov 18, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
And you were promoting it, I assume, way before that goon Beck was hawking a book about it last week, right?
. Well I've posted about agenda 21 wayyy before last week. I think the thread was."have you had enough of obama yet america" if you want to look. I saw everybody else posting links so I thought id add one. You can daydream whatever you want to about me all day honey. I don't need to prove anything that I already haven't.
Now let's move on.
Anyb ody read the washington blog?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/top-ec...
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#13877 Nov 18, 2012
titonton duvaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text>. Well I've posted about agenda 21 wayyy before last week. I think the thread was."have you had enough of obama yet america" if you want to look. I saw everybody else posting links so I thought id add one. You can daydream whatever you want to about me all day honey. I don't need to prove anything that I already haven't.
Now let's move on.
Anyb ody read the washington blog?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/top-ec...
Better stock up on duct tape and twinkies.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#13878 Nov 18, 2012
Boy, the losing side sure does feel like they are entitled to make alot of demands. I was reading how tinfoil hat boy was saying all these employees who got fired should get no benefits. Sure, and everyone who voted for Romney and was affected by the hurricane should get no FEMA disaster relief and every rightwing Conservative caught being a hypocrite and trying to talk their mistress into getting an abortion should be tried for the attempted murder of "God's precious gift of life". Every Tea Bagger crying about the tyranny of health care should have to pay every cent of their doctor and hospital bills out of pocket. Every nutball seeing socialism hiding around every corner should be denied Social Security.

I like this game. Wonder who would win?
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13879 Nov 18, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Better stock up on duct tape and twinkies.
after sandy there isn't anything wrong with a little preparedness. Both would work good on your mouth. Duct tape especially as its obvious you don't need more creme cakes hon.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#13880 Nov 18, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
Boy, the losing side sure does feel like they are entitled to make alot of demands. I was reading how tinfoil hat boy was saying all these employees who got fired should get no benefits. Sure, and everyone who voted for Romney and was affected by the hurricane should get no FEMA disaster relief and every rightwing Conservative caught being a hypocrite and trying to talk their mistress into getting an abortion should be tried for the attempted murder of "God's precious gift of life". Every Tea Bagger crying about the tyranny of health care should have to pay every cent of their doctor and hospital bills out of pocket. Every nutball seeing socialism hiding around every corner should be denied Social Security.
I like this game. Wonder who would win?
I have a better idea: everybody who wants to opt out of Commie Care, can, and leave only those who want it to pay for it all. Those of us who don't want to contribute to Social Security don't have to, and let the program be for those who want it.

I know I would be happier not paying SS and Commie Care while keeping my private insurance and handling my own retirement account. Most people would. I would be able to retire several ears earlier having higher monthly checks than SS could hand out. Plus I know it would be there when I do retire.

Since: Aug 11

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#13881 Nov 18, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a better idea: everybody who wants to opt out of Commie Care, can, and leave only those who want it to pay for it all. Those of us who don't want to contribute to Social Security don't have to, and let the program be for those who want it.
I know I would be happier not paying SS and Commie Care while keeping my private insurance and handling my own retirement account. Most people would. I would be able to retire several ears earlier having higher monthly checks than SS could hand out. Plus I know it would be there when I do retire.
are you buying private individual insurance or employer group private insurance big difference in cost.
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13882 Nov 18, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
Boy, the losing side sure does feel like they are entitled to make alot of demands. I was reading how tinfoil hat boy was saying all these employees who got fired should get no benefits. Sure, and everyone who voted for Romney and was affected by the hurricane should get no FEMA disaster relief and every rightwing Conservative caught being a hypocrite and trying to talk their mistress into getting an abortion should be tried for the attempted murder of "God's precious gift of life". Every Tea Bagger crying about the tyranny of health care should have to pay every cent of their doctor and hospital bills out of pocket. Every nutball seeing socialism hiding around every corner should be denied Social Security.
I like this game. Wonder who would win?
you're right about it being a game. The trick is there were never any "sides" for us to really take without losing. And all the sheeple love to play. That's what makes it so scary.
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13885 Nov 18, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>are you buying private individual insurance or employer group private insurance big difference in cost.
its more expensive for the same plan either way. And still it won't cover pre-existing conditions ( if it ever will for people who buy their own) untill 2016. And who knows how much more it will cost by then? Probably be like every other public run system. Always needing more funds with less and less results.
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13886 Nov 18, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
Boy, the losing side sure does feel like they are entitled to make alot of demands. I was reading how tinfoil hat boy was saying all these employees who got fired should get no benefits. Sure, and everyone who voted for Romney and was affected by the hurricane should get no FEMA disaster relief and every rightwing Conservative caught being a hypocrite and trying to talk their mistress into getting an abortion should be tried for the attempted murder of "God's precious gift of life". Every Tea Bagger crying about the tyranny of health care should have to pay every cent of their doctor and hospital bills out of pocket. Every nutball seeing socialism hiding around every corner should be denied Social Security.
I like this game. Wonder who would win?
http://blog.heartland.org/2012/11/dont-blame-...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#13887 Nov 18, 2012
titonton duvaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> its more expensive for the same plan either way. And still it won't cover pre-existing conditions ( if it ever will for people who buy their own) untill 2016. And who knows how much more it will cost by then? Probably be like every other public run system. Always needing more funds with less and less results.
employer plan the employer pays part of the cost for an individual vs an individual plan who pays 100% of the plan which I know and its expensive and your right before obamacare pre-existing conditions were not covered.
r u kidding me

United States

#13889 Nov 18, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>employer plan the employer pays part of the cost for an individual vs an individual plan who pays 100% of the plan which I know and its expensive and your right before obamacare pre-existing conditions were not covered.
its you're not your stupid.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#13890 Nov 18, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>are you buying private individual insurance or employer group private insurance big difference in cost.
It's a company plan as with most employees. 80% of insured Americans are through their employer. However, that may end because of Commie Care. They are going to have a minimum coverage that one can have, so if my employers plan does not meet their criteria, then he will either be forced to get better plans or he will drop insurance coverage altogether since we are not allowed to have that minimum coverage anyhow.

If he has to get better plans, then of course, we are going to have to make up that difference with after tax money. If he drops the plan, then we will have to buy our own individual plan and as you stated, it would be much more expensive.

Either way, Commie Care is a disaster and a real problem for most of us. The only possible savior is the fact that we Ohioans voted to exempt ourselves from Commie Care, but I don't know if we will be allowed to escape all parts of it. That hasn't been explained as of yet.
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13891 Nov 18, 2012
Yeah. So you agree they both cost more. Now go do some research. It dosent cover pre-existing conditions.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#13892 Nov 18, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>employer plan the employer pays part of the cost for an individual vs an individual plan who pays 100% of the plan which I know and its expensive and your right before obamacare pre-existing conditions were not covered.
Here in Ohio, they forced insurance companies to cover preexisting condition customers a couple of years ago. A few states have had that in place for some time now.
Loren Eberly

Bellefontaine, OH

#13893 Nov 18, 2012
Recession Recovery:

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

Workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
titonton duvaunte pants

United States

#13894 Nov 18, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Here in Ohio, they forced insurance companies to cover preexisting condition customers a couple of years ago. A few states have had that in place for some time now.
yeah that depends on a lot of guidlines. I would say it still dosent really fairly cover pre-existing conditions. I would say the ohio law unfairly redefines what a pre-existing condition even is in some cases.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3923.57

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#13895 Nov 18, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Here in Ohio, they forced insurance companies to cover preexisting condition customers a couple of years ago. A few states have had that in place for some time now.
I didnt know that but there again under the McCarran–Ferguson Act its each state to Regulate the Business of Insurance. the McCarran–Ferguson Act which exempts the business of insurance from most federal regulation, including federal antitrust laws to a limited extent. The McCarran–Ferguson Act was passed by Congress in 1945 after the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association that the federal government could regulate insurance companies under the authority of the Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran%E2%80%9...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#13896 Nov 18, 2012
titonton duvaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> yeah that depends on a lot of guidlines. I would say it still dosent really fairly cover pre-existing conditions. I would say the ohio law unfairly redefines what a pre-existing condition even is in some cases.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3923.57
I agree, there is some if ands or buts.

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