If a police officer asks to search yo...

If a police officer asks to search your car

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Curious

Lima, OH

#1 Feb 23, 2013
and you tell them no, what would happen?...
NOTHING

Johnstown, OH

#2 Feb 23, 2013
they got to get a warrant or arrest you or call in a k9.
Curious

Lima, OH

#3 Feb 23, 2013
then why do some people give them permission to search?

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#4 Feb 23, 2013
Curious wrote:
then why do some people give them permission to search?
They don't understand their rights nor due process. The argument, "If you have nothing to hide" is easily countered with, "Then you don't mind being recorded, do you?"
bad boy bad boy

Deshler, OH

#5 Feb 23, 2013
Curious wrote:
then why do some people give them permission to search?
A K-9 alert (real or trumped) gives police probable cause. People sometimes say yes to the search because they feel saying no is an admission that their ridin' dirty. Some even think their stuff won't be found. Surprise! Leave it at home. Carry in your car and you will get busted.

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#6 Feb 23, 2013
Just a minor afterthought, but being 100 miles from the boarder also puts us in a "constitution free zone", which is a bs claim that your constitutional rights are not guaranteed. Just have a camera ready when the situation arises. It may well upset the police, but the right to record police operating in their capacity is a constitutional right as well.

http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/fa...

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Since: May 12

screw you

#7 Feb 23, 2013
hey did you guys see in the times bulletin the celina police chief and another officer were placed on administrative leave? what's that about?
bad boy bad boy

Deshler, OH

#8 Feb 23, 2013
Celina Police Chief Dave Slusser has been put on paid administrative leave for allegations of job-related misconduct. An investigation is under way. A patrolman also has been put on paid leave for allegations of unusual behavior. Officials say the two cases are unrelated.

Hmmmmmmm

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Since: May 12

screw you

#9 Feb 23, 2013
what's considered unusual behavior? sometimes i like to make monkey sounds and run circles around my house naked to keep evil spirits away...

“raaaaar!”

Since: Feb 13

45891

#10 Feb 23, 2013
bad boy bad boy wrote:
Celina Police Chief Dave Slusser has been put on paid administrative leave for allegations of job-related misconduct. An investigation is under way. A patrolman also has been put on paid leave for allegations of unusual behavior. Officials say the two cases are unrelated.
Hmmmmmmm
IMO the allegations of unusual behavior has got to be something bizarre or really bad. I think so because they worded it so generally. Could be just because its still being investigated but I doubt it. Its because its really bad and they don't want it out there

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Since: Feb 13

45891

#11 Feb 23, 2013
the awesome hey wrote:
what's considered unusual behavior? sometimes i like to make monkey sounds and run circles around my house naked to keep evil spirits away...
depending on where you live at in VW that might actually be socially acceptable. So you might be in the clear.

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Since: May 12

screw you

#12 Feb 23, 2013
hobknobs wrote:
<quoted text> depending on where you live at in VW that might actually be socially acceptable. So you might be in the clear.
yeah that's what i thought too...
That one guy

United States

#13 Feb 23, 2013
Even if you don't have drugs in the car nor do you use drugs they still say the dog hit on it. So in theory it really don't matter if you say yes or no either way they are going to search you and the car.
bad boy bad boy

Deshler, OH

#14 Feb 23, 2013
That one guy wrote:
Even if you don't have drugs in the car nor do you use drugs they still say the dog hit on it. So in theory it really don't matter if you say yes or no either way they are going to search you and the car.
Yeah. That's why I said a trumped up hit by the dog. How would we know what a positive hit looks like?
bad boy bad boy

Deshler, OH

#15 Feb 23, 2013
the awesome hey wrote:
what's considered unusual behavior? sometimes i like to make monkey sounds and run circles around my house naked to keep evil spirits away...
I saw some more about it. It looks like the unusual behavior may have had something to do with gun shots.

“raaaaar!”

Since: Feb 13

45891

#16 Feb 23, 2013
That one guy wrote:
Even if you don't have drugs in the car nor do you use drugs they still say the dog hit on it. So in theory it really don't matter if you say yes or no either way they are going to search you and the car.
I agree with that though I think some of that may depend on the officer themself. If they've got themselves convinced there's something in the car they are gonna likely search it anyways or give a reason of why they have probable cause. Do they put the owner in the cruiser while they run the dog thru?
bad boy bad boy

Deshler, OH

#17 Feb 23, 2013
hobknobs wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with that though I think some of that may depend on the officer themself. If they've got themselves convinced there's something in the car they are gonna likely search it anyways or give a reason of why they have probable cause. Do they put the owner in the cruiser while they run the dog thru?
Usually depends on how many officers make the stop as to how they handle the subjects in the vehicle. Sometimes they cuff "for my safety and yours."

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#18 Feb 23, 2013
hobknobs wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with that though I think some of that may depend on the officer themself. If they've got themselves convinced there's something in the car they are gonna likely search it anyways or give a reason of why they have probable cause. Do they put the owner in the cruiser while they run the dog thru?
You have the right to be present and with warrant, to provide keys instead of having your property destroyed. Conversely, if they find nothing, you also have the right to make a case out of it against them. Miranda rights are legal trickery.

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#19 Feb 23, 2013
bad boy bad boy wrote:
<quoted text>
Usually depends on how many officers make the stop as to how they handle the subjects in the vehicle. Sometimes they cuff "for my safety and yours."
A police officer usually has multiple weapons. The 'for your safety and mine' argument is weak at best. If they've already frisked for weapons, which they have a right to do, they are more of a danger than you are.

“raaaaar!”

Since: Feb 13

45891

#20 Feb 23, 2013
Grrr legal trickery....there is always some kind of "fine print" in all legal issues it seems

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