City water quality.
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Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#1 Jan 4, 2013
On the positive side, the TDS levels are 25 to 35 ppm cleaner than Hardin County water supplies.

On the negative, Van Wert does add Fluoride with a target of 1 PPM.

There have been no less than 2 dozen studies linking lower IQs with water fluoridation, and one study linking coronary artery disease.

The hazards of drinking fluoridated water start in the stomach, when it is mixed with stomach acids.

HCL + NaF --> HF + NaCl

This reaction was confirmed using HCl, egg shells and Sodium Fluoride in a pyrex dish, causing etching typical of an HF reaction. The dish containing only HCl and NaF rinsed clean with no etchings.

What's important to note about the resulting HF (Hydrofluoric acid) is the detrimental effects of things like Calcium in your bones.

As a side note, it may be possible to match the resonant frequency of fluorine to such a degree that the bond is broken and the remaining Na combine with water to form Sodium Hydroxide and Oxygen. If it is possible, it would obsolete Activated Alumina and serve as a way of disposing of this toxic waste before it enters the water supply.(~ 2.6 Ghz)
gin

Delphos, OH

#2 Jan 4, 2013
Maybe that explains why McDonald's fountain pop tastes so awful!

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#3 Jan 4, 2013
gin wrote:
Maybe that explains why McDonald's fountain pop tastes so awful!
Probably not. At 1 PPM (or 1 mg/liter), Sodium Fluoride is hardly noticeable in terms of taste. As for the negative effects, Absorption through the skin is another entry point, but likely a different sort of reaction. In terms of TDS, it's definitely a step up from Kenton.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#4 Jan 4, 2013
I just emailed a request to speak out on this topic in Van Wert's city council meeting. The last time I did this, Kenton was receptive, but the water department who never answered the phone for any questions nor returned any call, in the next meeting acted as if I claimed they were putting special acids in the water to enhance the effects of fluoride, of which no claim was made. HCl occurs naturally, in the stomach at a concentration of 0.5%.

My preparation notes for previous visits to city council meetings can be found at http://www.oretek.com/drugs/ and in advance, no I am not running for nor do I have any desire what-so-ever to be a government employee of any kind, any place, any time, at any level. I just see an issue that is in need of addressing and want to speak out on it.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#5 Jan 8, 2013
The City Council president just called and confirmed I'm on calender next Monday to briefly discuss Water fluoridation potentially following up with a sub-committee meeting. Personally, I like his volunteer attitude, a notable difference from Kenton council. The meeting is scheduled for Monday, January 14th at 7:30PM, at 515 E. Main Street.

After this issue is addressed to the extent it can be, and after I've completed the most current project, I'll be scheduling a visit to discuss the relaxing of city ordinances to allow people to more easily become self-sufficient in home based manufacturing.
gin

Delphos, OH

#6 Jan 8, 2013
does the phrase 'don't tase me bro' mean anything to you?

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#7 Jan 8, 2013
gin wrote:
does the phrase 'don't tase me bro' mean anything to you?
Well, depending on the locale or perspective, it could be considered free electro-convulsive therapy, or herding of people like cattle. Tasers are commonly used as instruments of torture.
swat team

Deshler, OH

#8 Jan 8, 2013
Yes. So are ping pong paddles.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#9 Jan 8, 2013
swat team wrote:
Yes. So are ping pong paddles.
The gangs that use them to herd people this way and that usually have a common uniform and claim some level of authority. I sincerely hope it's different in this town. In Kenton, some are pretty blatant about it. As for gang loyalty (That thin blue line), to those that adhere to it, it can become a cancer that eats away at the soul.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#10 Jan 9, 2013
Just an update.

I just got a call from the Mayor and the Safety director and we have an appointment at 1:30 on Friday to discuss fluoridation in detail. While it's not certain what will come of it, the fact that they set aside real time instead of the usual 5 minutes for the issue is promising.
fista cuffs

Sheridan, IL

#11 Jan 9, 2013
good job , joe!

“you like it, you like it a lot”

Since: May 12

screw you

#12 Jan 9, 2013
joe, could you maybe bring up the fact that the water tastes like poo also. thanks, much apppreciated. and if you use those exact words you'll forever be my hero.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#13 Jan 9, 2013
the awesome hey wrote:
joe, could you maybe bring up the fact that the water tastes like poo also. thanks, much apppreciated. and if you use those exact words you'll forever be my hero.
I don't yet have a 1 ppm fluoride sample for the fluoride meter but I do have a TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) meter. If you want to stop by with a container of the water I'd be happy to measure it and include that information in a quantifiable value. On N. Burt street the water quality is a step up from Kenton and you may be dealing with more of a local plumbing issue. It would be good to have honest samples from other parts in town from the cold water side.

My contact information is at the bottom of http://www.oretek.com

To those interested in why it's so important to me, I'd like to pose a question. Rather than using derogatory terms like inbreeding and drugs to define why people are not as intelligent, what if we asked WHY? That one question is the beginning of a necessary critical thought process that easily explains why people are the way they are, leaving little room to belittle others for their own intellectual challenges. Even after removal of fluoridation, it will still take months, and in some cases, years, to recover, and some may never fully recover. However, our children will have no such burdens and will likely naturally become smarter. Water enters the body 2 ways, by ingestion and absorption, and with it, all of its impurities.
fista cuffs

Sheridan, IL

#14 Jan 9, 2013
I applaud your efferts joe...other than Kirby Kelly (a noted poster here on topix) you are the only person I read about on here willing to do something positive with the community, rather than sit back and complain...and you've only been here , what , a few weeks?
kudos, and much luck to you

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#15 Jan 9, 2013
fista cuffs wrote:
I applaud your efferts joe...other than Kirby Kelly (a noted poster here on topix) you are the only person I read about on here willing to do something positive with the community, rather than sit back and complain...and you've only been here , what , a few weeks?
kudos, and much luck to you
Thanks. Parts of the motivation are my own family but this particular problem is much bigger than that. Access to technology also means first, to free the mind of anything that steals potential. My current project, http://www.oretek.com/dxf/ (Javascript required, The default drawing) is useless to people who have impaired thinking unless all they expect is a minimum wage job and to passively accept the low benefits and long hours.

The main facebook group "Ideahaus - Van Wert, Ohio" https://www.facebook.com/groups/2774864289347... if you have an idea you think can be a locally made product might be a good place to visit. Part of the Friday meeting will also cover relaxing of ordinances to allow people to become manufacturers from home and less dependent on failing government agencies, for those motivated enough to want to try.
party pooper

New York, NY

#16 Jan 9, 2013
Hate to burst your bubble joe, but the city doesn't use sodium floride. They use hydro flucilic acid. If you call or stop out there, you can get a water quality report.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#17 Jan 9, 2013
party pooper wrote:
Hate to burst your bubble joe, but the city doesn't use sodium floride. They use hydro flucilic acid. If you call or stop out there, you can get a water quality report.
Whether it's Hexafluorosilicic acid or NaF, the end result is the same, and I already spoke with the water department. They aren't trying to hide that they're fluoridating the water supply and at least one employee is aware of the research used in my argument. Their argument is that they are following EPA recommendations and that they have to. The truth is, they don't have to. The EPA is more of a political organization than a health organization, favoring corporations over people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexafluorosilici...

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#18 Jan 9, 2013
There have been no less than 2 dozen studies linking fluoride to a lowering of IQ. Here's a link to the most recent one, the Harvard study.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/flu...

Similar research on asbestos ultimately eliminated its use as well. The question that comes up for me, is why, with so much evidence that Fluoridation is hazardous to the human body, is there an insistence that its use continue?
Get With It

Butler, OH

#19 Jan 10, 2013
Why don't we get off our asses and demand that we get rid of fluoride!?
crzzzd

Ellwood City, PA

#20 Jan 10, 2013
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In my City terrible like old pipes

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