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confused

West Mansfield, OH

#21 Sep 27, 2012
Same situation for Reagan after Carter. Just saying.
Ronnie Reagan

East Liberty, OH

#22 Sep 27, 2012
Whatever wrote:
Actually Clinton is the dumbass that signed the NAFTA agreement that shoved our jobs to Mexico. Remember he was to busy gettin blow jobs on taxpayer's dime to care about reading the fine print. Nothing has been the same since. You wanna point blame at someone he's the peice of shit to point at.
Actually, the impetus for NAFTA began with Ronald Reagan, then signed by Bush senior, then signed into law by Clinton. All thee are to blame. How the hell both parties let this get through is betond me!
Tiredofit

Lodi, OH

#23 Sep 27, 2012
Any 1st shift people out there with any news on how many got it?
Union losers

Springfield, OH

#24 Sep 27, 2012
Tiredofit wrote:
Any 1st shift people out there with any news on how many got it?
Hey...why don't you do what the highly intelligent people at Teleflex (Konsberg) did and go out on strike next vote....(oh errr sorry, get LOCKED OUT by the company LOL) That was a really brilliant move, maybe the county commissions will buy the FM building and turn it into a giant indoor park...or maybe the VWC Foundation might need to expand the Wassthfukr Art Center?????? You FM folks can always get a real job and work at Eaton (or Walmart)
Ronnie Reagan

East Liberty, OH

#25 Sep 27, 2012
If it comes to a strike I'm sure the employees will strike. The big boys want to close the place and move it, let them. Who even cares any more? The place has gone to hell.
Anyone

United States

#26 Sep 27, 2012
The economy is collapsing. Neither candidate is going to save us either. Things are just going to keep getting worse. Get prepared cuz life will go on but many wont survive the culling. I give FM another year and Eaton... 5 years. Things are decaying at too quick a rate that that rebuilding will seem futile, outweighing the almighty need to profit. When Eaton finally goes under VW will become a ghost town and the naysayers will want their Mayberry back.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#27 Sep 28, 2012
Not to get snarky, but how much money would it take for the employees to buy the damn place? Approximately how many people work there anyway?

I mean if you guys are so sure of yourselves and quality of your work (I don't doubt the quality of end product).
NotAFactoryWorke r

Westlake, OH

#28 Sep 28, 2012
Anyone wrote:
The economy is collapsing. Neither candidate is going to save us either. Things are just going to keep getting worse. Get prepared cuz life will go on but many wont survive the culling. I give FM another year and Eaton... 5 years. Things are decaying at too quick a rate that that rebuilding will seem futile, outweighing the almighty need to profit. When Eaton finally goes under VW will become a ghost town and the naysayers will want their Mayberry back.
Maybe this will push some factory people into going back to school and getting a career instead of just a job. Factory work used to be the backbone of many towns, it isn't any more. There are plenty of careers outside of factory work. My husband and I both graduated from college just a few years ago, we both had multiple offers before we were even finished with our internships and had a choice of where we wanted to work. We both started jobs within days of graduating and are still being asked by recruiters to take other employment opportunities. Many employers make offers to pay off your student loans if they want you badly enough. It can be done, I'd say over half of my graduating class was comprised of people over 35.
Just

Toledo, OH

#29 Sep 28, 2012
LoL wrote:
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LoL! Maybe Mitt can buy FM and ensure their demise like he did for thousands of other American workers.
just like Obama did with gm when he bought it and closed all the dealers. Goes both ways. Btw gm didnt pay a dime in taxes last year along with ge.
old fart

West Mansfield, OH

#30 Sep 28, 2012
40 more employees are getting layed off next week. That brings the total to around 80. There are 360 employees left in the palnt. The late 90's Fm had a high of 800 employees. I don't see a good trend.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#31 Sep 28, 2012
Do employees their put money into a company pension fund or do they have their own 401Ks? Of course if there are pension funds the employees will still have the option to have their own personal 401k I realize. From my experience though, its the company pension funds that are subject to getting ripped off.

As long as people are going to talk about Bain Capital doing just that, get it right dumbasses, they don't rip off personal 401Ks. That's something democrats have in store for when they can't borrow any more money and see the light that they can't keep printing money. They've already talked about raiding personal 401ks by rolling them into social security and promises a pissant amount of return. Then just SPEND AWAY!
Yeah

Van Wert, OH

#32 Sep 28, 2012
Just wrote:
<quoted text>just like Obama did with gm when he bought it and closed all the dealers. Goes both ways. Btw gm didnt pay a dime in taxes last year along with ge.
Problem there is that Obama didn't fill his pockets. The plan also saved thousands of jobs instead of causing all of them to be lost, that is what Mitt does. You also fail to see private versus government. If Obama's former job had been to buy up businesses and then force them to close because they couldn't pay their high interest loans he gave, them you'd be crying. Mitt does that for a living and it's called "success". Why should they pay taxes? Taxes are only for the middle class.
thetruth

Van Wert, OH

#33 Sep 28, 2012
old fart wrote:
40 more employees are getting layed off next week. That brings the total to around 80. There are 360 employees left in the palnt. The late 90's Fm had a high of 800 employees. I don't see a good trend.
Little do you know, they are not going to lay off another 40 next week and currently they have 94 laid off as of yesterday. Also the news is this is going to last until January with the 1st quarter of next year looking better than the 4th of this year. The election probably does have something to do with it, who knows. Time will tell.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#34 Sep 28, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Problem there is that Obama didn't fill his pockets. The plan also saved thousands of jobs instead of causing all of them to be lost, that is what Mitt does. You also fail to see private versus government. If Obama's former job had been to buy up businesses and then force them to close because they couldn't pay their high interest loans he gave, them you'd be crying. Mitt does that for a living and it's called "success". Why should they pay taxes? Taxes are only for the middle class.
GM stock is in the $20s. It has to get over $50 per share for the tax paying 53% to break even. And now GM is in a slow glide death spiral on course to crash next year. So I fail to see the success story there.

Just like I stated about FM employees, if those workers are so confident about their work, why didn't the GM workers suck it up and buy the damn thing instead of relying on the mooching of the taxpayers? I seriously doubt FM will get the gubment bailout like GM did.

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