observer

Ottawa, OH

#1 Jun 26, 2013
Fools in van wert county just now hearing about this? Its already in place in Ohio & VW county...google it! I knew that two years sgo....its under the disguise of "Sustainability"!!! FEMA ALREADY KNOWS DON'T YOU RICKY? ANY GOVERNMENT MONEY HAS A TRAP HIDDEN...except welfare & food stamps of course!
observer

Ottawa, OH

#2 Jun 26, 2013
Note: move out of rural lands into bigger cities? Someone gonna force you to where you don't want to go? How?
observer

Ottawa, OH

#3 Jun 26, 2013
It says move citizens off PRIVATE RURAL LAND TO URBAN HIGH DENSITY HOUSING!!! KEY WORD IS PRIVATE.....HOW THEY GONNA DO THAT? REMEMBER THIS IS U.N.

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#4 Jun 26, 2013
I read up on it a couple years ago as well, but just because the city says no doesn't mean things aren't already being done. Depopulation is a good deal easier than people realize, without involving the city "government" (municipal corporation). Make birth rates fall, as they have been for decades, and ultimately, a significant reduction in birth rates will have the same effect as kicking people out of the city would. At some point, a reduction in birth rates would make the city unsustainable, within a decade. Given current life expectancies, status quo of births per thousand is 12.86 and that's just to keep up with the death rates.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005067.html

Making the cost of energy more expensive in rural areas will likely be the tactic to push their agenda along. What I see as a countermeasure in this area, should this happen is to create an automated system to manufacture our own solar panels and literally unplug from city power, except as a backup supply. Of course for what I do, I'd need 90 panels but I'd do it if only to stand in defiance of any UN driven goals.

If I were to suggest anything, it would be to study the goals of Agenda 21, and consider the possible ways each of the individual goals could be approached without involving government agencies. If you find an organization trying to implement any of the goals, follow the money trail, which will ultimately lead to ICLEI.
VW Viewer

Ada, OH

#5 Jun 26, 2013
The intent is to end private property ownership, a key component of communism. Then when everybody is stuck in government housing, threaten to deny them necessities like food and utilities, unless they follow the new dictators. Sustainability , while a reasonable goal, is just a ploy used by the one worlders. We need to throw the UN out of our country, and end our affiliation with them.

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#6 Jun 26, 2013
On the deed to your property, are you listed as the owner or a tenant? Do you own the mineral rights on "your property"? Private property ownership, even in this city, is merely an illusion. As I said to Stan after the last meeting, you wont convince the city the UN is a bad idea by showing natural rights, but rather by showing how an international organization is a direct competition with that of the city's own efforts.

I also quoted a statement made to me many years ago about change. To straighten a blade of grass, you don't just straighten it, but rather, you push it further back so that when it recoils, it straightens naturally. Whether or not even this local government will introspectively evaluate the 157 chapters of ordinances and actually begin to respect what freedom and liberty truly means remains to be seen.

“Politics. 2 cheeks of 1 ass.”

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#7 Jun 26, 2013
I should self-correct one point. There are no chapters 1-9 nor 12-29, at least publicly. It's a curious gap, but still pretty excessive.

http://www.amlegal.com/vanwert_oh/

Since: Aug 12

Union City, GA

#8 Jul 23, 2013
Agenda 21 will just be called something else and probably is by now.

High level folks in government education have already been heard saying COMMON CORE is going into place come hell or high water and by the time it gets there itll be called something else but it'll go thru no matter what.
Freethinker

Powell, OH

#9 Jul 23, 2013
observer wrote:
Fools in van wert county just now hearing about this? Its already in place in Ohio & VW county...google it! I knew that two years sgo....its under the disguise of "Sustainability"!!! FEMA ALREADY KNOWS DON'T YOU RICKY? ANY GOVERNMENT MONEY HAS A TRAP HIDDEN...except welfare & food stamps of course!
. Rampant paranoia is simply unjustified regarding this issue . Agenda 21 is a voluntary , non-binding U.N. resolution that respects sovereignty and national boundaries. Conspiracy theories abound , primarily promulgated and promoted by Glen Beck , Tea Partiers , and the John Birch Society. While the United Nations has not lived up to the expectations of most of us , it has saved millions of lives including those of U.S. soldiers. If one can spell "conspiracy theory" and "debunked" , this issue is easily shown to be a tissue of lies , exaggeration , propaganda , and media manipulation.

Since: Aug 12

Union City, GA

#10 Jul 23, 2013
Any large government or empire only lasts 250 years. The US turned 237 a few weeks ago. So freethinker, what kind of government do you think will be the next one?
Freethinker

West Salem, OH

#11 Jul 24, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Any large government or empire only lasts 250 years. The US turned 237 a few weeks ago. So freethinker, what kind of government do you think will be the next one?
. I don't know , but considering the current trend , Social Democracy possibly .

Since: Aug 12

Atlanta, GA

#12 Jul 24, 2013
Like Venezuela. Yes.... I can imagine just that. Especially with how anyone with opposing views can simply be destroyed by the IRS.

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