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Heehaw22

Springfield, MO

#1 Jan 3, 2012
what are they trying to do now?
Answer

Poplar Bluff, MO

#2 Jan 5, 2012
Just as they have been doing since they started;

The National Park Service preserves unimpaired the natural and cultural resources and values of the national park system for the enjoyment, education, and inspiration of this and future generations. The Park Service cooperates with partners to extend the benefits of natural and cultural resource conservation and outdoor recreation throughout this country and the world.
Your_an_idiot

Houston, TX

#3 Jan 5, 2012
Answer wrote:
Just as they have been doing since they started;
The National Park Service preserves unimpaired the natural and cultural resources and values of the national park system for the enjoyment, education, and inspiration of this and future generations. The Park Service cooperates with partners to extend the benefits of natural and cultural resource conservation and outdoor recreation throughout this country and the world.
You are talking about the same park service that steals land and kicks locals off the river so more tourist can float, right?
Speaking_of_idio t

Spokane, MO

#4 Jan 6, 2012
Show me where the park service stole *anyone's* land.

Come on...if it happened, it happened through the courts and I'm sure there would be newspaper articles documenting it.

As far as us 'locals' anyone who thinks this is 'our' river or that the park service is kicking us off it is the idiot.

Bunch of little cry babies is what you all are and make the rest of us look bad.
Your_an_idiot

Houston, TX

#5 Jan 6, 2012
Speaking_of_idiot wrote:
Show me where the park service stole *anyone's* land.
Come on...if it happened, it happened through the courts and I'm sure there would be newspaper articles documenting it.
As far as us 'locals' anyone who thinks this is 'our' river or that the park service is kicking us off it is the idiot.
Bunch of little cry babies is what you all are and make the rest of us look bad.
Do you have any idea of how many families were forced to give up their land in the name of Ozark National Riverways? Do your homework. If you dont think this is our river then you are not from here. Move back to the city and cry from there, dont act like you are one of us.
no fish

Ellington, MO

#6 Jan 6, 2012
The park service should really look into the lack of fish on the strip.. Its like a desert thru there , as far as aquatic life.
Speaking_of_idio t

Spokane, MO

#7 Jan 6, 2012
Your_an_idiot wrote:
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Do you have any idea of how many families were forced to give up their land in the name of Ozark National Riverways? Do your homework. If you dont think this is our river then you are not from here. Move back to the city and cry from there, dont act like you are one of us.
No idiot, it is NOT "our" river and it never was and I AM from here. Born and riased as were my parents. Just because I'm not some dumber than a rock inbred redneck hillbilly doesn't mean I'm not from here.

Our time to cry about it was 70 years ago when our parents and grandparents allowed the park to be established.

When we whine and cry like little babies, we just prove to the world they were right - we ain't nothin but a bunch of stupid, inbred hillbillies.
Your_an_idiot

Houston, TX

#8 Jan 6, 2012
Speaking_of_idiot wrote:
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No idiot, it is NOT "our" river and it never was and I AM from here. Born and riased as were my parents. Just because I'm not some dumber than a rock inbred redneck hillbilly doesn't mean I'm not from here.
Our time to cry about it was 70 years ago when our parents and grandparents allowed the park to be established.
When we whine and cry like little babies, we just prove to the world they were right - we ain't nothin but a bunch of stupid, inbred hillbillies.
The nation was formed by people who complained and then got off their ass and did something about it. Not people like you who sit there and take it and tell people to quit whining. If we want to make a differance we have to do something. Whining and crying is the first step. Squeeky wheel gets the grease. ect. How does this make anyone stupid, inbred, redneck, hillbilly?? We simply dont want the goverment to tell us what we can do and regulate how we live and our customs. If we are hurting the wildlife and fish, maybe that needs to be looked into, but not so tourist can have it all to themselves. For your information, we have some of the smartest people in the nation to come out of Van Buren. Anytime someone has an opinion that is different, you assume inbred, rednecks, maybe you are the one who is wrong.
Speaking_of_idio t

Spokane, MO

#9 Jan 7, 2012
I'm retired, and the park was established before I was born. I doubt there are very many people alive right now who lived before there was a national park.

I never "owned" any part of the river. YOU never owned any part of the river. I doubt there is anyone alive right now who owned any part of the river.

Even before the park service, I doubt anybody ever "owned" the river.

So it's not that you are a stupid, inbred, redneck, hillbilly because you disagree with me. You are stupid, inbred, redneck, hillbilly because you make stupid comments like "our river" when you don't (and never did) own it, and whine and cry like a little baby about something that happened before you were ever born.

I'll go a step further. I'd bet you don't own any property here now, never did, and neither did your parents. You just want to jump on some imaginary bandwagon and b itch about someting when you have no idea what you're talking about.
Hahaha

Spokane, MO

#10 Jan 7, 2012
Your_an_idiot wrote:
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The nation was formed by people who complained and then got off their ass and did something about it.
Hahaha.. Yeah. our forefathers would have accomplised a LOT by sitting on their fat ases in their mom's basement posting hate messages on an anonymous message board.
Tommy

Frisco, TX

#11 Jan 7, 2012
It would be funny to watch 5000 tourist fight flying carp!
kacie

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#12 Jan 7, 2012
Speaking_of_idiot wrote:
I'm retired, and the park was established before I was born. I doubt there are very many people alive right now who lived before there was a national park.
I never "owned" any part of the river. YOU never owned any part of the river. I doubt there is anyone alive right now who owned any part of the river.
Even before the park service, I doubt anybody ever "owned" the river.
So it's not that you are a stupid, inbred, redneck, hillbilly because you disagree with me. You are stupid, inbred, redneck, hillbilly because you make stupid comments like "our river" when you don't (and never did) own it, and whine and cry like a little baby about something that happened before you were ever born.
I'll go a step further. I'd bet you don't own any property here now, never did, and neither did your parents. You just want to jump on some imaginary bandwagon and b itch about someting when you have no idea what you're talking about.
I lived through those times-my parents, grandparents and other land owners of prime farmland below BIG SPRINGS made many a trip to Jefferson City, attended meetings, visited with people, and lots of letters to government representatives in a vain attempt to block this take over of their land, ahh some of those people in the City thought.."ooh lots of dollars coming our way...oh yes, we want it!"
Well, I would say.Van Burens business people-You got what you wanted and most of us thrown off OUR land either relocated or left the farm and got jobs other places...my question "where is all that money"? Oh yes and how funny that the Bedells moved in and put the corner on river/food/lodging money. Then the highway by passed the town. I watched from afar with glee at all those great plans for the millions local merchants planned to make. ha ha haaa
I would love to still live on our farm with my kinfolks around watching our cattle, hogs, chickens, etc running around and our crops being planted and harvested, instead it is a barren wasteland-overgrown with scrub trees and brush. Bears, panthers, and other wild animals running wild down there on what was once fertile productive farmland. The river has suffered from over use by drunken idiots, fish are basically gone from that stretch of river from KOA to Doniphan. Access is very limited to the river and only can be used by locals when the tourists are gone. I spent many an hour with my family enjoying Current River in the past. The few times, we have returned to those swift cold waters, it is not the same.
kaykay

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#13 Jan 7, 2012
I remember when the flow from Big Spring boiled out, exploding with force as it rose high into the air and came down with such force, you would get splashed down by the sidewalk-long before you reached the head waters.
Then the Park Service took over and now it flows out so much less. Restricted access to the water, fewer campground and even less of facilities for campers to use, no water parks nearby, no horse back riding, no roller rink, no bowling alley, no campy tourist areas like before, fewer stores with that old tyme feeling, just a real shame.
The Park service brings in all these folks who are from "NEW YORK CITY" (using this as a comic slam)
or points far removed from the cold swift flowing Current River Country.
The Rules change often and get "siller" every time.
Tater-Salad

Branson, MO

#14 Jan 7, 2012
Tommy wrote:
It would be funny to watch 5000 tourist fight flying carp!
that would be, or should I say will be awesome
native

Troy, MO

#15 Jan 22, 2012
I read all these commits about the park service, like people having their land stolen---I know my father and mother in laws owned 120 acres on the river by two rivers back in the good old days and when the NPS moved in they received 100$ per acre and told to get--thats not stealing? If you were a lawyer or a banker you could manage to keep your land just look at Mr. Joe Montgomery who owns alot of land inside the Park, who keeps hunting rights and all the good things that go with land ownership, drives their vehicles right down to the waters edge,--try that yourself somewhere sometime and see what that cost you, so it all boils down to who you are and how much pull or politics you have---right is right and wrong is wrong.--Sometimes!
Know your history

West Plains, MO

#16 Feb 23, 2012
Your_an_idiot wrote:
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Do you have any idea of how many families were forced to give up their land in the name of Ozark National Riverways? Do your homework. If you dont think this is our river then you are not from here. Move back to the city and cry from there, dont act like you are one of us.
A dam was scheduled to be built in Doniphan in 1945. If it wasn't for the Park Service, Van Buren, Big Spring and everything else you love would be under a reservoir, just like Clearwater Lake. The Park Service saved the river for you. MORE people would have lost land in the original plan, and everyone was paid. Compare what people were paid for land along the river with sales records from somewhere off the river, like Ellsinore, and you'll see they got paid well. Maybe they didn't WANT to move, and that's sad, but they were going to loose their land no matter what. Better this way - we still have the river to enjoy. Show some gratitude, the NPS saved the river, and provides about 100 good paying jobs to this town. Yes, including mine.
Know your history

West Plains, MO

#17 Feb 23, 2012
native wrote:
I read all these commits about the park service, like people having their land stolen---I know my father and mother in laws owned 120 acres on the river by two rivers back in the good old days and when the NPS moved in they received 100$ per acre and told to get--thats not stealing? If you were a lawyer or a banker you could manage to keep your land just look at Mr. Joe Montgomery who owns alot of land inside the Park, who keeps hunting rights and all the good things that go with land ownership, drives their vehicles right down to the waters edge,--try that yourself somewhere sometime and see what that cost you, so it all boils down to who you are and how much pull or politics you have---right is right and wrong is wrong.--Sometimes!
Sadly it really boiled down to who could hire a better lawyer. That's not the NPS fault, that's a deeply rooted problem with the American system: the poorer folks get the shaft. Don't blame the park service for that, it's been that way since George Washington.
concerned citizen

Branson, MO

#18 Feb 23, 2012
We hear on radio there is a important meeting at the landing in vanburn we didnt get the date and time please go to every town and post the date and time where everyone who ownes a boat can attend even Eleven Point citizens please post it on Donipon,Winona,Emenice,Alton,M t View,Birchtree ect invite everyone to show there suport.
dont worry

Hollister, MO

#20 Feb 24, 2012
Just a early Emerson campaign rally.
Bring your checkbook.
cory

United States

#21 Feb 24, 2012
Please do. Spread the word. Your local congress person will be there pandering for your votes. Making you think she really cares.

what she won't tell you is that it's her group (congress) that wrote the laws that created the riverways.

It's her group (congress) that requires the park service to do this management plan.

It's her group (congress) that requires the park service to take action to protect the river.

But she'll be right there in her $900 suit with us poor little hillbillies, telling us how she understands just what we're going through and knows just what it's like. And how dare that evil park service do this to you.

And just about everyone in the crowd will swallow that BS hook, line and sinker.

What she won't tell you is that the park service is required to obey the laws that congress wrote. What she won't tell you is that congress will have to change the law in order to stop this.

After the meeting, she might take her chauffer and half a dozen aids to a nice lunch (paid for by the tax payers), jump back in her gas guzzling SUV, have her personal makeup artist fix her all up again, put on a new $900 outfit, and head on out to her next campaign stop..er I mean her next public meeting. Secure in the knowledge that she just duped another hundred people into voting for her.

Tell you what. While you're at that meeting, ask her if she's working on changing the the laws that created the park. Ask her if she's working on writing a law so that the park service doesn't have to follow the existing laws.

The law can be amended. It was amended in 1996 to make the park protect the wild horses. It can be amended again to protect our boating rights. Ask her if she's working on that.

Watch her avoid a direct answer to the question.

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