“Nothing Is Free In This World”

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#102 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
Confused there is just alll kinds of stuff left out of the rewrite of Reagans mythical hsitory by republicans. Just as baby Bush is trying to rewrite his history and rejuvenate his self. It has happeneed to about every president in hitory. I do not know why but their followers want them to become more popular.
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#103 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
Now Confused donot fret as I bring you good tidings, President Clinton also put a tax on social security in 1993. Under reagan the tax was 50 percent and Clinton raised it to 85 prcent. which n=means that about 25 to 30 percent of those recieving socia security benefits are not taxed on thsoe benfits. And guess what--both of our political parties were in agreement to having S.S. taxed. And thsoe fica taxes are not tax deductible. JUST A BIT OF SOCIAL SECURITY HISTORY
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#104 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
aND FOLKS YO CAN BET YOUR AST DOLLAR THA IN SOME WAY OR FORM THSOE POLITICIANS WILL BE COMING TO GET YOU SOCIAL SECUITY BENEFITS LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO HAVE A MEANS TEST, CHANGING THE FORMULA FOR PAYMENT OF THSOE BENFITS OR OR TO FIND SOME OTHER SNEAKY WAY TO REDUCE YOUR BENFITS THAT YOU ARE RECEVING. GET READY TOBENT OVER AND SMILE IT MAY HURT A BIT. bUT YOU s.s. CHECK IS GOING TO BE SMALLER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF THSOE D.C. POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR WAY--THEY COME SEEKING MORE REVENUE. aND THERE ARE OVER 50 MILLION OF YOU FOLKS GETTING THSOE BENF=EFITS TO TAKE FROM. SAD FEELING AINT IT. sO IN THE FUTURE BE PREPARED TO LIVE ON LESS AND TIGHTEN THAT BELT UP A NOTCH OR TWO. HAVE A NICE DAY, I AM. GOD BLESS ONE AND ALL
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?
DOUGH BOY

Valliant, OK

#105 Jan 22, 2013
Reagan is not a myth ... if in the picture i saw , if it was not a sasquach or a baby squach , then it had to of been kevin bacon , but it wasnt.It was Reagan that tore down that wall , it was Reagan who sank the titainic and it was of corse Reagan that won the revilutionary war ... for his own side. but who is reagan , well hes the tiger woods of marraige , the katty anthoiny of parting , im talking nixxions levels of preidentchal behavior.... there are dissbeilves .. but we know Reagan lives on in the hearts (pacemakers) and souls (bought by diseny with spechil intrest) of our congressmen and .... congresmen. the real point of you reading this is you have half a life i do, see your still reading , what a lifeless no one. my god look at your self still going , if only you could do this to your wife. see thats a whole 20 seconds i stole from you and your family.

and yes .... kevin bacon is working with congres to change his last name too beacon.

"Kevin soon to be Beacon"
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#106 Jan 23, 2013
pappy wrote:
aND FOLKS YO CAN BET YOUR AST DOLLAR THA IN SOME WAY OR FORM THSOE POLITICIANS WILL BE COMING TO GET YOU SOCIAL SECUITY BENEFITS LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO HAVE A MEANS TEST, CHANGING THE FORMULA FOR PAYMENT OF THSOE BENFITS OR OR TO FIND SOME OTHER SNEAKY WAY TO REDUCE YOUR BENFITS THAT YOU ARE RECEVING. GET READY TOBENT OVER AND SMILE IT MAY HURT A BIT. bUT YOU s.s. CHECK IS GOING TO BE SMALLER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF THSOE D.C. POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR WAY--THEY COME SEEKING MORE REVENUE. aND THERE ARE OVER 50 MILLION OF YOU FOLKS GETTING THSOE BENF=EFITS TO TAKE FROM. SAD FEELING AINT IT. sO IN THE FUTURE BE PREPARED TO LIVE ON LESS AND TIGHTEN THAT BELT UP A NOTCH OR TWO. HAVE A NICE DAY, I AM. GOD BLESS ONE AND ALL
We have a man running our country that has never had a real job. He has coddled our enemies and spit in the face of our allies. He has divided the country with racial divide and class warfare. He is now working on controlling the weapons that we have in our homes to protect ourselves. He has spent over $6 TRILLION that we didn't have in 4 years and we know little about where the money went. For 4 years he has travelled continuously around the country campaigning for his next 4 years at taxpayer expense. He signed into law a health care bill that will give us health care that you would find in third worlds and will take 9.3 perceent of GDP. We have over 50 percent of the people on government benefits. We still have millions of people without jobs. I can't think of a single positive thing that he has done for the benefit of all Americans. You mentioned "means test." Do you know what that is? Obama has already dipped into medicare.$718 billion of medicare funds will go to obamacare. His claim that insurance rates will be lower is totally false like most everything else that comes out of his mouth. My insurance premiums increased 58 percent on January 1 over last year along with deductibles increasing. But yet you, Pappy, stand behind him all the way. You support everything he does and you vote for him. People like you and obama yell racist if you should disagree with him. He has filled those who follow him with hatred. I urge you to go to this link and read the real reason behing Benghazi where 4 Americans lost their lives.
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/30/retired...
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#107 Jan 23, 2013
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?
confused, if a budget has not been past in so many years how has all that money been spend as the congress has to approve all spending, a president has no authority to spend money without a congress has approved that spending and passed a budget. Confused you are really confused about what the constitution says about spending.Congress has to approve all budgets before money can be spent. Period--endog spending myth. Have a nice day, I am.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#108 Jan 23, 2013
Confused, Congress even desin=gnates how all money is spent by each and every president.As congress is the only part of congress to write a budge as the president can only sent the congress what he hopes to get and the way he suggest what is needed in a budget. Then from that president suggested budgetthe congress can add to that budget or taked=away from that bugetAS TO CONGRESS'S LIKING. ACCORDING TO WHAT i HAVE READ CONGRESS IS THOUGHT OF TO BE LOWER THAN A COCK ROUCH, NOW THAT IS EVEN LWER THAN A USED CAR SALESMAN.oBAMA IS RATED MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT.

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

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#109 Jan 25, 2013
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>confused, if a budget has not been past in so many years how has all that money been spend as the congress has to approve all spending, a president has no authority to spend money without a congress has approved that spending and passed a budget. Confused you are really confused about what the constitution says about spending.Congress has to approve all budgets before money can be spent. Period--endog spending myth. Have a nice day, I am.
I will try to explain this the "hick" way, since; you don't seem to understand the contrary:

I fully understand the role of Congress, however; I fully understand the role of President, too.

So, has our President accomplished one item, that he ran on 4 years ago? No! Has our President made an attempt to curb spending? No! Has our President made any concessions to bring Republicans and Democrats together, regarding fiscal policy? No! Has our President pushed for a budget? No!

To summarize my point:

The wars we're fighting are Barack Obama's wars. He has had time to rectify and remove our troops from war, yet; he has failed to accomplish, his campaign promises. Essentially, he started another conflict in Libya and we will conduct a war in Iran, within; the next 4 years.

The budget deficit is still Obama's, all the money being spent was either passed by his Congress or could be ceased by his Congress, not to mention; the various Executive Orders that have been signed on his watch. Additionally, neither; Democrats, nor; Republicans have made an attemp to create bipartisan policy that curbs spending. Expenditure over - runs are associated with entitlements or military spending, however; no effective, real, cuts have been made.

So, if our President and our Legislature was serious about creating "Hope" and "Change", they would pass a budget, that; addresses the crushing debt, the various wars, and entitlement cuts. Anything short of that is just political theatre.

However; they have you, just where; they want you. Caught up in 30 year old politics, still debating Democrat / Republican stale - mates. Each President, regardless of party, picks up, where the exiting President, left. One of these days, you might wake up and realize, that; government is the problem? The system of government we have will crush us, it's that simple. However; you're a proud Democrat, that; likes getting his rent paid by the government, I get it. However; there has never been anything of quality, for free, including; your rent.

Wake up, quit shoveling shit and smell the coffee, you mindless idiot.
pappy

Lancaster, TX

#110 Feb 7, 2013
your really confused, CONFUSED, no president can spend have money to spend unless that money has been OKed and passed by congress Tell me where and how it can happen by presidetial order in the constitution? And on what did Obama use a presidential order to spend money on other than what was in a congressional spending bill. But the people spoke and Obama was re-elected and Romney rejected
pappy

Lancaster, TX

#111 Feb 7, 2013
Confused, I am not a hick from Oklahoma nor have I ever claimed to be smart above nor beyond my 6 grade edecation. have a nvery nice day Confused as I am an GOD BLESS each and everyone. But I must admit that m grade school speling is not up to snuff, garrett that is.

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#112 Feb 7, 2013
pappy wrote:
your really confused, CONFUSED, no president can spend have money to spend unless that money has been OKed and passed by congress Tell me where and how it can happen by presidetial order in the constitution? And on what did Obama use a presidential order to spend money on other than what was in a congressional spending bill. But the people spoke and Obama was re-elected and Romney rejected
Show me where he has vetoed spending, a President can veto bills, right? Where has he vetoed anything, that; wasn't Republican? I never stated that, he spent money, I merely commented on his Executive Orders, that do cost money, when we have czars, committees and councils for complete bullshit, like fitness and nutrition.

Yeah, Barack Obama was reflected and you're swilling the Kool Aid and still dodging any question worth answering. Look at my last post, before this one and answer one question..........

Take a stance, there Pappy, instead of bawling all day about Ronald Reagan!

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#113 Feb 7, 2013
pappy wrote:
Confused, I am not a hick from Oklahoma nor have I ever claimed to be smart above nor beyond my 6 grade edecation. have a nvery nice day Confused as I am an GOD BLESS each and everyone. But I must admit that m grade school speling is not up to snuff, garrett that is.
That makes sense, since; it's apparent; you support 5th Grade politics. They really are that shallow and mindless..........

Which, is what the Democrats need, mindless sheep, thinking, they're getting something for nothing. Yeah, you have a nice day and thank Obama..........
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#114 Feb 8, 2013
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
<quoted text>
That makes sense, since; it's apparent; you support 5th Grade politics. They really are that shallow and mindless..........
Which, is what the Democrats need, mindless sheep, thinking, they're getting something for nothing. Yeah, you have a nice day and thank Obama..........
She is right, Pappy. Look around you. Notice the people that the obama and the democrats prey upon - the poor, the less educated and all who cannot or do not think for themselves. Think about this. You state that obama cannot spend unless approved by congress. What happens if the debt limit has been reached and he does something that costs $1 million? Who will stop him from spending that $1 million? Why does he keep insisting that the debt limit be raised yet again? How will we ever get the debt paid down? Is it necessary that we pay the debt down? Should we just keep paying the interest on the debt but nothing on the principal? This is what give republicans a bad name. The democrats spend us into oblivion and the people get tired of it and elect a republican. The republican has to make serious cuts and gets the blame. Who got blamed for the great depression? Who caused the depression? Do some research from original records not from some information written by a liberal.

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#115 Feb 8, 2013
Sunrise wrote:
<quoted text>She is right, Pappy. Look around you. Notice the people that the obama and the democrats prey upon - the poor, the less educated and all who cannot or do not think for themselves. Think about this. You state that obama cannot spend unless approved by congress. What happens if the debt limit has been reached and he does something that costs $1 million? Who will stop him from spending that $1 million? Why does he keep insisting that the debt limit be raised yet again? How will we ever get the debt paid down? Is it necessary that we pay the debt down? Should we just keep paying the interest on the debt but nothing on the principal? This is what give republicans a bad name. The democrats spend us into oblivion and the people get tired of it and elect a republican. The republican has to make serious cuts and gets the blame. Who got blamed for the great depression? Who caused the depression? Do some research from original records not from some information written by a liberal.
Researching topics and actually practicing, what you preach is a heavy load for Democrats.

I bet Pappy, taught his kids to save their money and spend wisely. However; his politics are quite the opposite, which; I find compelling, when talking to Democrats. They really think, money comes from a machine and has no consequence, when; it is printed endlessly. I would like to think, Pappy remembers Jimmy Carter, I don't see him touting Carter as a great President? Probably because, he couldn't get a job and interest rates were soaring, sky high. However; inflation is coming to a neighborhood near you, thanks to the Federal Reserve and Obama, economic policy.

Democrats don't want to talk about inflation, however; basic economics, foreshadow inflation in our future. But, we must keep Welfare, Obamacare and every, other entitlement program, oiled and running, to ensure the ruling class. Which, by the way; he supports lock, stock and barrel. He had rather have the comfort government affords and be servant to the government. As opposed to having comfort from his ability, skills and mind, while harnessing the power of one, instead of legislating, many.

But, that will not change, since there will always be rich people, poor people, ignorant people, intelligent people and people that, just don't give a damn..........

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

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#116 Feb 8, 2013
Barack Obama is a Demagogue. Just like Huey P. Long, he built a stellar career, pandering to the uneducated, poor, and servant class, while; appealing to popular desires and prejudices, rather than by using rational argument.

If you debate with any Democrat, simply throw the word rational, in the back yard.

They have no concept of rational judgement, unless; it references, their personal fortune or belongings. Then, Democrats seem to rescind from their politics, unless you're a Democrat of the recipient class, which; most, fall into the recipient class, category. They depend on the government, therefore; free programs, appeal to their desires, which; ultimately, becomes their way of life.

The system is designed to trap the recipient class into poverty. However; neglecting to use simple, rational thought, is what; forces them to stay in poverty, thus; dependent on the government and consistently, voting Democrat.

It wouldn't matter if the Republicans replaced the Democrat tomorrow, the recipient class would vote Republican, if they championed, "no consequence, entitlements".

Pappy likes the notion of "something for nothing", which; is what Welfare, really should be called.
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#117 Feb 8, 2013
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
<quoted text>
Researching topics and actually practicing, what you preach is a heavy load for Democrats.
I bet Pappy, taught his kids to save their money and spend wisely. However; his politics are quite the opposite, which; I find compelling, when talking to Democrats. They really think, money comes from a machine and has no consequence, when; it is printed endlessly. I would like to think, Pappy remembers Jimmy Carter, I don't see him touting Carter as a great President? Probably because, he couldn't get a job and interest rates were soaring, sky high. However; inflation is coming to a neighborhood near you, thanks to the Federal Reserve and Obama, economic policy.
Democrats don't want to talk about inflation, however; basic economics, foreshadow inflation in our future. But, we must keep Welfare, Obamacare and every, other entitlement program, oiled and running, to ensure the ruling class. Which, by the way; he supports lock, stock and barrel. He had rather have the comfort government affords and be servant to the government. As opposed to having comfort from his ability, skills and mind, while harnessing the power of one, instead of legislating, many.
But, that will not change, since there will always be rich people, poor people, ignorant people, intelligent people and people that, just don't give a damn..........
You are right. The only thing I can think of that you left out is democrats and liberals do not base the rhetoric the spew out on facts.
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#118 Feb 8, 2013
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
Barack Obama is a Demagogue. Just like Huey P. Long, he built a stellar career, pandering to the uneducated, poor, and servant class, while; appealing to popular desires and prejudices, rather than by using rational argument.
If you debate with any Democrat, simply throw the word rational, in the back yard.
They have no concept of rational judgement, unless; it references, their personal fortune or belongings. Then, Democrats seem to rescind from their politics, unless you're a Democrat of the recipient class, which; most, fall into the recipient class, category. They depend on the government, therefore; free programs, appeal to their desires, which; ultimately, becomes their way of life.
The system is designed to trap the recipient class into poverty. However; neglecting to use simple, rational thought, is what; forces them to stay in poverty, thus; dependent on the government and consistently, voting Democrat.
It wouldn't matter if the Republicans replaced the Democrat tomorrow, the recipient class would vote Republican, if they championed, "no consequence, entitlements".
Pappy likes the notion of "something for nothing", which; is what Welfare, really should be called.
I have been amused today. Obama is putting the word out on who will be hurt by forced spending cuts and it is those same people that he always uses. He is trying to blame the forced cuts on republicans as usual but I for one have not forgotten the bill stopped on his desk and he put his signature on it.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#119 Feb 8, 2013
Like the others before him ,Reagan was shot because he was doing something right.
pappy

Lancaster, TX

#120 Feb 10, 2013
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?
confused, you are truely confused about money apropriate for goverment spending as only congress can apropriate funding for goverment spending. And a president can not apropriate money of any amount for spending as it still is the congress's job to do so. Please tell me which part or amendmend allows a president the right to apropiate money for spending? Have anice day confused, as I am. God Bless
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#121 Feb 11, 2013
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>confused, you are truely confused about money apropriate for goverment spending as only congress can apropriate funding for goverment spending. And a president can not apropriate money of any amount for spending as it still is the congress's job to do so. Please tell me which part or amendmend allows a president the right to apropiate money for spending? Have anice day confused, as I am. God Bless
You are correct in your assessment of appropriations of governement spending, pappy, but you are evading the real issue. Let me give you an example in smaller terms. Let's say that your married son decides to go to college and you offer to help him with finances. You give him one of your credit cards with stipulation that he can only use it for food, books and gas to get to and from school. You receive a credit card bill and discover he has taken his family on two Hawaiian vacations and his wife went to Spain and stayed in a resort that cost $2,000 per day and she took her children and 25 friends and put all of the expenses on YOUR credit card. You were not told this was taking place nor asked permission. It has already happened and you are holding the bill in your hand and it has YOUR name on it. What are you going to do?

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