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#21 Sep 18, 2012
@Pappy

Again, take it to the level where it belongs, the individual. If every individual would be responsible, do what is right, not expect entitlements, it would not open the doors for the greedy, corrupt individuals and corporations in this world to take advantage of all of this.

So many of our problems as a nation go back to individual responsibility.

And if we continue on with Obama, we won't have to worry about individual rights, responsibilities, we will belong totally to HIS government, not ours.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#22 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
OKLAHOMABORN, READ THIS BIT OF INFO ON FOOD STAMPS (SNAP)PROGRAM. The following is the reasons that there will be no changes in what a food stamp recipient can buy--MONEY AND LOBBYIST. SOMEof the biggest banks in the country are making a killing off the administration of the SNAP PROGRAM. J.P. MORGAN HAS A CONTRACT IN 24 STATESTO ADMISTER snap. In New York, J.p. Morgan is paid 112 million for EBT services and justgot a increase of over 14 milion dollars In california a service provider for SNAP is being paid $69 million and the list goes on and on. A few Wal Mart stores in in one state recieved more than 33 million dolllars from SNAP program. one big area of profit comes from the junk foood products such as candy,sodas,and chips. theose inustries make such huge sales on these items that they have a large lobbying group in these industries to head off any changes to put limits on these items of junk food. the snack foods industry are well organized against any changes to be made against their industry in the snack foods area of. Big Business will always be there to protect their sales and profits. One thing you might notice is the space on the shelves that goes to a certain industry, like chips and different type candies and can goods. That shelf space is usually bought and paid for by the different industries using that shelf space and it is one way the store makes a killing on their shelf space besides the items sold from that space. If an industry does not buy space they do not sale much of their product nor make a better profit. Thats the way of big business. READ IT AND WEEP. ITS YOUR TAX DOLLLARS AT WORKDO YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE YOUR SELF A NICE LOBBYIST TO REPRESENT YOU??
But yet you proclaim that Romney will cut 16.5 billion from the food stamp program.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#23 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
REally, insome residential areas there no grocery stores, but small stores that sell gas and quick foods. Now where else do they buy food at?
Pappy, that is completely unreasonable. Are you telling us that some people on food stamps are only eating "quick foods" that they buy at these small stores? I don't believe there is anyone in Oklahoma that is doing that.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#24 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
SunRise, you should be doing a lot more fact checking other thn that 36 percent item you used. how did you like the speech on the food stam recilients by Romney and what he thinks of our loer paid people. Some of those people just happen to be our military members Romney just dumped on. Agreat many of them who have family are on food stamps cause of the low. Then he is also talking about the senior citizen that are on food stamps and gets housing help in paying heir rent or medicaid recipients on medicare that are in a nursing home. This video shows the true face of Romney and the working peopele of thsi nation. And Romney is the manthat wants to be president who shipped american JOBS TO CHINA. nOW E KNOW JUST HOW rOMNEY WILL TRULY what he thinks of those he considers to be beneath him.
I regret that Romney made these statements. As usual the liberal news media has blown what he said out of context. This statement was made at a private fundraising event. The group was stratigizing how to pick up undecided votes. His statement was that those people receiving government benefits had made up thier minds and would vote of obama. In other words his strategy was to talk to those who would most likely vote for him. Keep in mind this was a private planning session about votes. He was right in the statement he made but apparently there was a sabotager in his mist.
This is sad for another reason. We have a large part of the middle east in crisis and protesting against America and our president in in Las Vegas campaigning. The liberal media and all liberals are pounding Romney every step of the way but they refuse to tell us the news that we need to hear. America is in big trouble and it is not because Romney had a planning session for his campaign. I was sickened last night as I watched part of a press conference held by Romney to try to explain the matter. The liberal press pounded him with unreasonable questions. He explained the situation but they continued to turn each answer into a badgering session.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#25 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
SunShine, the self employedare not elgible for unemployeement, so do not get counted.
Yes, that was pointed out in the article that I posted.
pappy wrote:
And I did not say a word about the fees he started charging --like $25.00 for fees to get listed on the state rolls as blind, or he fees that soemone has to pay to be certified mentally ill, and the other ees charges that were raised.
What is your point in stating all of this?
pappy wrote:
But that 16.5 billion in cuts to the food stamp program is fact in what the republicans are trying to do to the elderly, the disabled, chilldren and others who use the food stamp program.
Pappy, I have asked you where you got this information and how you know it to be a fact several times and you keep evading the question. How could you possibly know this to be a fact?
pappy wrote:
And just thing George Bush and P.Ryan wanted to invest their mone yin the wall street stock market. Wonder what would have happened if Bush and Ryan had succeeded ,how much woul have remained of the Society Fund for the people?
Where did you get this information? Where are those funds invested currently? I hope they were not invested in Solyndra.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#26 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
SunRise, you should be doing a lot more fact checking other thn that 36 percent item you used. how did you like the speech on the food stam recilients by Romney and what he thinks of our loer paid people. Some of those people just happen to be our military members Romney just dumped on. Agreat many of them who have family are on food stamps cause of the low. Then he is also talking about the senior citizen that are on food stamps and gets housing help in paying heir rent or medicaid recipients on medicare that are in a nursing home. This video shows the true face of Romney and the working peopele of thsi nation. And Romney is the manthat wants to be president who shipped american JOBS TO CHINA. nOW E KNOW JUST HOW rOMNEY WILL TRULY what he thinks of those he considers to be beneath him.
Go to this link and watch the video.
http://www.staged.com/video...
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#27 Sep 18, 2012
really wrote:
@Pappy
Again, take it to the level where it belongs, the individual. If every individual would be responsible, do what is right, not expect entitlements, it would not open the doors for the greedy, corrupt individuals and corporations in this world to take advantage of all of this.
So many of our problems as a nation go back to individual responsibility.
And if we continue on with Obama, we won't have to worry about individual rights, responsibilities, we will belong totally to HIS government, not ours.
REALLY, do you actualy know who really benefits from the foo stamp program, and reap the most profits and the origin of the food stamp program. Do a little bit of actual reasoning of why it came into existance and why. Then coem back and blame the workiing poor the elderly who worked their butts off for their entire lie and actually and also gurss who also pays no income taxes--opver 3ooo wealthy millionaires. People who enioy great wealth and are a drag on this couiers resources--money. Guess who also got welfare--Romney as boss actual;ly threatened to do a bankruptcy for Bain if he did not get his way on a reduction of debt at a bank that he owed a 30 million plus bill. Wanted to pay only 30 cents on the dollar or less or he would file bank ruptcy ---cost the goverment (FDIC) and u the the banking customers in higher insurance cost, Bain and Romney cost us $15 million in los and the bank got taken over by the FDIC. And Guess what REALLY, Bain had enough capital on hand to pay the debt but Romney said he would use that money to pay bonuses. that bonus fo course included Romney. ake a google a look for the welfare Romney/Bsin got from the different goverment entities. But of copurse corporate welfare does not count in your books but the have nots mean even less--where was the corporate responsibility at fro Bain that Romney and you talk so mch about is it a dfferent type of repsonibiliy of wlfare. Romnyu took welfare and walked away rich--that botom 47 to 50 percent will never have that opornity. they had no inheritancet kick start their lives with.
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#28 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
<quoted text> REALLY, do you actualy know who really benefits from the foo stamp program, and reap the most profits and the origin of the food stamp program. Do a little bit of actual reasoning of why it came into existance and why. Then coem back and blame the workiing poor the elderly who worked their butts off for their entire lie and actually and also gurss who also pays no income taxes--opver 3ooo wealthy millionaires.
Pappy, that statement is completely false. Millionaires use the same tax forms and tax schedule that you use.
pappy wrote:
People who enioy great wealth and are a drag on this couiers resources--money. Guess who also got welfare--Romney as boss actual;ly threatened to do a bankruptcy for Bain if he did not get his way on a reduction of debt at a bank that he owed a 30 million plus bill. Wanted to pay only 30 cents on the dollar or less or he would file bank ruptcy ---cost the goverment (FDIC) and u the the banking customers in higher insurance cost, Bain and Romney cost us $15 million in los and the bank got taken over by the FDIC. And Guess what REALLY, Bain had enough capital on hand to pay the debt but Romney said he would use that money to pay bonuses. that bonus fo course included Romney. ake a google a look for the welfare Romney/Bsin got from the different goverment entities. But of copurse corporate welfare does not count in your books but the have nots mean even less--where was the corporate responsibility at fro Bain that Romney and you talk so mch about is it a dfferent type of repsonibiliy of wlfare. Romnyu took welfare and walked away rich--that botom 47 to 50 percent will never have that opornity. they had no inheritancet kick start their lives with.
Romney has never been on welfare. I'm not able to follow all that you are saying about banks and Romney. Had you had Romney's position at Bain Capital, how would you have managed the company? As far the bottom 47-50 percent, how many people have you known that lived off government benefits that have had great success in their life? I don't know any and that is their fault. You can't climb mountains while you are sitting at the bottm with your hand out.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#29 Sep 18, 2012
SunShine, do you think wakmart is the only store that people use their food stamps at. those astamps are used in all different types of stores, to buy even many snack food type foods. Even the industry of Sanck fooods has a lobby that fights being taken off the list of foods that can be bought on food stamps card, SNAP CARD.And SunShine the volume of snack type foods sold is a high volume item for such companies as Coke and other snack sales companies. Why do you think they have lobbyist lobbying against the people that want to remove snack foods from the buying list of SNAP recipients.
Sunrise

Arlington, TX

#30 Sep 18, 2012
pappy wrote:
SunShine, do you think wakmart is the only store that people use their food stamps at. those astamps are used in all different types of stores, to buy even many snack food type foods. Even the industry of Sanck fooods has a lobby that fights being taken off the list of foods that can be bought on food stamps card, SNAP CARD.And SunShine the volume of snack type foods sold is a high volume item for such companies as Coke and other snack sales companies. Why do you think they have lobbyist lobbying against the people that want to remove snack foods from the buying list of SNAP recipients.
I agree with what you have said here but what I replied to was your post number 9 where you said "in some residential areas there no grocery stores, but small stores that sell gas and quick foods. Now where else do they buy food at?" You insinuated that the people you speak of only buy food at the small gas/quick food places and therefore live on junk food which I find hard to believe. You are also insinuating that these people have no transportation to go to a larger store where they can buy something besides junk food something else that I find hard to believe.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#31 Sep 18, 2012
Sunshine, in some areas there are no large gocery stores. only stores similar to the &-11 stores that sel very litle in the grocery line as they have a small pick in he griocery section and sell mostly snack foods and lots. A full line grocery store is not located in every neighbor hood. Even I have to drive miles to get to a full line grocery store. There is a small store that sells bread and a few grocery items cold drinks and candy along with hamburgers and hot dogs.And howabout a 2 piece fried chicken and 1 biscuit for lunch. And a little gas. Alot of these sotores are within walking distnance of a neighbor hood or apartment complexes.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#32 Sep 18, 2012
Romney sure showed his back side to the bottm 47 percenters in what he reallly thinks of "thsioe Folks" as he calls them and thinks of them. Romney probably could run for dog catcher and would probably lose. The big O and Romney gap is widening with Obama in the lead.
Sunrise

United States

#33 Sep 19, 2012
pappy wrote:
Romney sure showed his back side to the bottm 47 percenters in what he reallly thinks of "thsioe Folks" as he calls them and thinks of them. Romney probably could run for dog catcher and would probably lose. The big O and Romney gap is widening with Obama in the lead.
It is pathetic that this is all you folks have. Why don't you tell us what obama is doing while 20 mid-east countries are on fire with protests of hate toward America. Our credit rating had been downgraded again from AAA to AAA+, then AAA- and now AA. Tell us why that is happening. Tell us about our warheads being given to foreign countries so as to bring us in line with other countries. Tell us why obama will not neet with the prime minister of Isreal. Tell us about a universal health care plan that will bankrupt the nation and ruin health care for all of us. Tell us about obama's record. But all you have is to pick apart a statement that Romney made in a private fund raising meeting or Paul Ryan saying how fast he ran a mile.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#34 Sep 19, 2012
Sunrise wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, that was pointed out in the article that I posted.
<quoted text>What is your point in stating all of this?
<quoted text>Pappy, I have asked you where you got this information and how you know it to be a fact several times and you keep evading the question. How could you possibly know this to be a fact?
<quoted text>Where did you get this information? Where are those funds invested currently? I hope they were not invested in Solyndra.
SunShine, I got it from the federal goverment about the 16.5 billion cus in food stamps. But the people that will be effected by those cuts are not evan ware of the cuts and seem to be deaf and blind to the facts.
really

United States

#35 Sep 19, 2012
@Sunrise

Thank you for saying what I have been trying to put together, just not as well as you have. It is very interesting how certain individuals can try to pick apart the smaller issues while skirting around, unable to answer, or just flat ignorning the bigger issues to justify their arguments.

I would also like to know who will pay for all of the entitlements Obama is setting us up for, who is going to pay for all of the new and expanded government jobs he wants to add to our budget? If nobody is working, because of all of the entitlements, because government is bigger than the private sector, what will happen to this country?

Romney was not talking about individuals who are receiving monies they are entitled to, such as retirees, and individuals who really are unable to work. He was talking about those same folks who receive food stamps, sells them for cigarette money, etc, etc, etc. I have personally known, even some of my own relatives, people who sit on their butts and collect welfare, food stamps, even monies for college. They know how to work the system, collect for full time college, while going only the minimum hours required, and still have enough money left over after all of the grants, etc, to go on vacation. One of my own sisters went on vacation to Oregon last year after receiving her tuition money, before starting classes. She bragged about it and felt she was so smart to be able to do this. She also collects SSD, food stamps, receives medicare, she works the system like nobody's business. And by the way, she is in her 8th year of college!! If these entitlements were not so easily accessible, maybe this kind of thing would not be possible. And maybe, we as a country would not be so far in debt.

And don't tell me to report her, who listens? Because I have made inquiries to many different government offices. The individuals who authorize all of this need their jobs, too. If they did not authorize so many to do these things, there would not be a need for their jobs.
Sunrise

Fort Worth, TX

#36 Sep 19, 2012
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>SunShine, I got it from the federal goverment about the 16.5 billion cus in food stamps. But the people that will be effected by those cuts are not evan ware of the cuts and seem to be deaf and blind to the facts.
Wouldn't this have to be legislated by a bill being created and passed in the house and then passed in the senate and then signed by the president? There is a republican majority in the house, a democrat majority in the senate and the president is a democrat. If the food stamp program is cut by 16.5 billion it will take a bipartisan group to push the bill through. How can you say it is the republicans that is cutting food stamps?
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#37 Sep 25, 2012
It has already been to the senate and passed the senate and the house wants to argue bout not letting it pass because the senate did not put enough cuts in the foood stamp program ----Guess the house did not liek the Seante bill the way it was written. The GOPeers just does not liek feeding the old geezers nor hungry kids. But they may have made a bunch of people mad this time. The dems amd the repubs lkd the deal they madeand passed it. and it went to the house to be left till after election.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#38 Sep 25, 2012
There are a bunch of republicans voting along with the DEms as they also like the seante bill which means the tea baggers in the house may loose
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#39 Sep 25, 2012
BEAR, teh coment about the 47 percenters may just cost Romney alot of votes in the red states along the deep south---Mississippi, texas,Louisania, Okla, Alabama, Florida, Georgia whcih is a strong hold of the republicans. He sure started talking out of the other side of his mouth soon after that video came out in the news showing what he thought of the 47 percenters. He was talking down on about half the people in the country.

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