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A 'hell on Horton Road' for family of murder victim

There are 1128 comments on the Newsday.com story from Feb 14, 2006, titled A 'hell on Horton Road' for family of murder victim. In it, Newsday.com reports that:

It hardly matters anymore to Richard and Victoria Tinyes that the Golubs will be leaving Horton Road in Valley Stream." /> Long Island A 'hell on Horton Road' Pending sale of the home of their daughter's killer ...

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cool kid

Bayonne, NJ

#865 Feb 2, 2012
im trying to say that he is my GM at fridays in bayonne PAL..whos pressing buttons?
The Last Boy Scout

Appleton, WI

#866 Feb 3, 2012
Hello My Friends,

The Blog is up and running, you are welcome to post here or there.

http://blog.justice4kelly.com/

It took awhile, but it will be worth it, much more flexibility in posting. Use the comment area to post to the blog.

Thank you for your patience.

TICK

STANDBY!!

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM
The Last Boy Scout

Appleton, WI

#867 Feb 3, 2012
Hello My Friends,

This is directed to cool kid:

Thank you for posting on this forum. Don't get ruffled by anyone. If you would like to comment further, try our new blog at:

http://blog.justice4kelly.com/

One word of advice, JJ will get rid of you if he even thinks you know or are talking about his past.
Good luck!

TICK

STANDBY!!

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM
PattiAnn

United States

#868 Feb 3, 2012
Doesn't TGIF's do background checks?
melanie

Richmond Hill, NY

#869 Feb 3, 2012
OH shoot no time to read now..have to wait til Monday...thank you Last.
Aunt JoAnn

AOL

#870 Feb 3, 2012
I haven't posted in quite a while. John J is the focus of this board and I along with many other's believe he was also responsible for Kelly's death. We all want to see John J convicted.

Robert Golub I know you must read this board. Tell the truth about your brother being an accomplice. New people have been posting about your brother being a manager at TGI Friday's. His life went on and your sorry ass is sitting in a jail. I guess your comfortable where you are, but quite honestly a little thing like yourself couldn't live in the big world.

Come forward, tell us about John J, we are all ready to listen. Actually your meaningless life was taken away because of your brother. Time to payback your brother. Don't let that little squirt get away with being a manager and bossing people around.

Remember, you use to have control over him, you can have that control again if you just speak up.

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Since: Mar 11

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#871 Feb 3, 2012
Aunt Joanne: welcome back, its good to have you here again, I would like to say that this forum is about Kelly Tinyes.

Do you think that Robert reads here? I know that if I were being sodomized on a regular basis and have no freedom, I would want payback!

I'm always amazed at the new names that come here, lots of people in Jersey, I guess that work or know this guy. WELCOME ALL OF YOU!!!
I will ask all of you that are friends or co-workers, what if it was your family member that was murdered, in such a brutal subhuman manner? Wouldnt you want justice?
Next time you serve some bread at the restaurant, serve half a loaf of bread, and make the person pay for the whole loaf, see if they get mad, well on the half loaf theory, the Tinyes only got half a loaf....and Kelly is still paying the tab!

ANCONA!

Since: Mar 09

Kirkcaldy, UK

#872 Feb 4, 2012
Thankyou for linking the forum.
I was interested to hear what Aunt Joanne had to say. Lately I have wondered why Robert sits back and says nothing,myself. They apparently had a falling out about this case, is that it? Again Robert keeps it all in, they didn't exactly go out there way to protect Robert, you would think Robert Golub would see that John Jay is just living it up, without a care in the world for anything or anyone, which includes Robert. That also includes, more importantly, Kelly.
Kelly's murder was beyond any rational explanation as to 'why' and it's so far removed from our understanding off human nature and why people are motivated to kill. However we understand that John Jay was involved, and clearly, what that motivation was. It's the big secrets that baffle me. Robert cant even man up to tell the truth but could take Kelly's life in such a henious and brutal sadistic way, with additional help from others....justice, there is none. There is the truth and someday that will come out, then Justice can be served. It's taking time and time is running out.....for John Jay.
Kelly will have peace, someday, but these creeps will never know what peace off mind is, and dont deserve to know. Maybe Robert always thought that at some point he would be set free, but now reality sinks in and he knows that he will never be released, he may start talking yet.
Justice for Kelly ~
The Last Boy Scout

New York, NY

#873 Feb 4, 2012
Hello My Friends,

I want to welcome Shar001 to our forums. You run a great site at:
http://watchingrobertpickton88015.yuku.com/to...

Plenty to see and read. Please use anything you would like on your forum Shar. You are a very important part of this effort. I know the Tinyes family feels the same way. I know I cannot say that for the Golub's. Take care my friend.

TICK

STANDBY!!

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM
The Last Boy Scout

New York, NY

#874 Feb 4, 2012
Hello My Friends,

I would ask that if you post here, also copy your post and go to the new blog site, which is http://blog.justice4kelly.com and post there.
We need to get some momentum started at this site also.

The new site will include video, photographs, and other links that may be of interest to you.

Please also remember that the Reward Website: http://www.justice4kelly.com has a link to the blog site also. There you will find the 50K reward information. I know that there are people that have this information. They may have already spoken to the Nassau County District Attorneys office. Do not worry about what was said, or was not said. Contact The Last Boy Scout at any of these sites and I will help you come forward with the truth.

IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO TELL THE TRUTH, it might very well make you 50K richer. If you are a decent, good person, why carry the burden of a secret or a lie for the rest of your life.

The law provides for these situations, it’s called immunity from prosecution. What do you have to lose? You might get your dignity and self-respect back.

We are just getting started on this reward offer. As I have stated before, it is a
FIRST COME –FIRST SERVED situation. We have already received inquiries and potential leads. Let’s keep it going until we get JUSTICE FOR KELLY.

TICK

STANDBY!!

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM

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The Last Boy Scout

New York, NY

#875 Feb 6, 2012
Hello My Friends:
"Justice delayed is justice denied" is a legal maxim meaning that if legal redress is available for a party that has suffered some injury, but is not forthcoming in a timely fashion, it is effectively the same as having no redress at all. This principle is the basis for the right to a speedy trial and similar rights which are meant to expedite the legal system, because it is unfair for the injured party to have to sustain the injury with little hope for resolution. The phrase has become a rallying cry for legal reformers who view courts or governments as acting too slowly in resolving legal issues either because the existing system is too complex or overburdened, or because the issue or party in question lacks political favor.

As Chief Justice Warren E. Burger noted: "A sense of confidence in the courts is essential to maintain the fabric of ordered liberty for a free people and three things could destroy that confidence and do incalculable damage to society: that people come to believe that inefficiency and delay will drain even a just judgment of its value; that people who have long been exploited in the smaller transactions of daily life come to believe that courts cannot vindicate their legal rights from fraud and over-reaching; that people come to believe the law - in the larger sense - cannot fulfill its primary function to protect them and their families in their homes, at their work, and on the public streets.

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The Last Boy Scout

New York, NY

#876 Feb 6, 2012
Continuation:

The courts are not the problem in the Kelly Ann Tinyes homicide, it is the Nassau County, NY, District Attorney's Office, starting with Denis Dillon and on up to current DA Kathleen Rice. Would you be satisfied, as the parents of a murdered child, if only one of the known suspects was prosecuted for your child’s murder? You are never given an explanation as to why the other suspect was allowed to walk away, never setting foot in a courtroom. Maybe "suspect" is the wrong terminology, because according to the DA's office, there was only one suspect, Robert Golub.
Kelly Ann Tinyes went to the Golub house after receiving a telephone call from John J. Golub. We know that he has admitted making the call to multiple friends; this is a known fact.

My investigation indicates a conspiracy between Brothers John J. Golub and Robert Golub, to entice Kelly to their house, in the hopes of smoking pot and having sex with her. None of which Kelly would have ever considered. Her refusal is what led to the ensuing mayhem. Several days before, JJ had observed a boy and girl getting hot and heavy at one of their homes.

In JJ's mind, he thought that this would make him "cool" in the eyes of his new friends Steve Bataan and Glen McMahon; thus far, there is no indication that Bataan or McMahon had any knowledge or involvement in the conspiracy and/or murder. That part of the investigation continues. There is a strong indication that John J. Golub was given a polygraph examination and extensively interviewed by the Nassau County Homicide detectives, during the first days of the investigation. I wonder if Robert Golub's defense counsel Salvatore Marinello was aware of that before or during his trial.

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The Last Boy Scout

New York, NY

#877 Feb 6, 2012
Continuation:

What, if any deal was made for John J.'s help in convicting his brother Robert? John J. never testified during Robert's trial, the Prosecutor, Dan Cotter did not want him there.

It makes me wonder why Robert's defense counsel did not call John J. Golub; after all, Robert said he did not make the call to Kelly. It does not matter what I think about Robert Golub, what matters is that he was railroaded, guilty or not, he never stood a chance.

The DA's office and Nassau County Homicide bulldozed any obstacles that stood in their way of getting a conviction. That included a six-year-old girl, who by all civilian accounts saw Kelly in the basement of the Golub house, by the time they finished interviewing her, using so-called experts. The child's story was disjointed and confusing. The bulls totally discredited her recollection of events, why? Answer: Because it did not fit with the scenario, they were manufacturing for Robert. They only wanted the most viable candidate for trial and that was Robert Golub. It was even disappointing to Det. Wells; he stated, "Half a loaf was better than none".

There is no doubt in my mind that the Nassau County District Attorney's Office, namely Kathleen Rice does not want to deal with the skeletons and misdeeds of Denis Dillon anymore. However, whether she likes it or not, the chickens are coming home to roost. This will certainly not help her political career and future aspirations. The Justice4Kelly movement has many supporters and we have just begun to become vocal. You will hear about this cause on the radio, TV, and newspapers. Why am I so certain of this, you might ask...because everyone loves a scandal.

John J. Golub has been free since the afternoon Kelly's body was discovered in the Golub basement. Why? Simple answer; because elected and sworn public servants did not do the job that they had sworn to do. Moreover, they are still not doing it.

"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice ..."
- U.S. v. Jannotti, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (3d Cir. 1982)

THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON MURDER

TICK

STANDBY!!

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM

http://blog.justice4kelly.com
http://www.justice4kelly.com

Since: Mar 09

Kirkcaldy, UK

#878 Feb 9, 2012
To The Last Boy Scout.

Thankyou very much for you're lovely welcome. I have just read all this information, also I was amazed to see the drawing that someone did off Kelly, which was posted over on the other forum.

I cant express my gratitude in knowing that Kelly's family have trust in me as a person, that means so much to me. Kelly has many dear friends, and all off you are simply the best.
To see this highlighted from you regarding Robert and John Jay both in this together takes a weight of our minds, the Justice system have really let everyone down, especially Kelly's family. If I can do anything to help on Kelly's new website then that goes without saying, I'd be proud to help in anyway I could.

My thoughts are always with you. Ever since I read the book, and that wasn't even accurate, something told me that these two brothers did this together, and i'm no expert but I have studied this case for some time. Kelly is always in my heart, I want you all to know I'm 2 steps behind.

God Bless you all.
Shar

Justice for Kelly.
The Last Boy Scout

Montclair, NJ

#880 Feb 14, 2012
Hello My Friends:

This is directed to Kathleen Rice Nassau County District Attorney.

Quite simply...

“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice …”

- U.S. v. Jannotti, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (3d Cir. 1982)

I have much more to say on this subject also, stayed tuned.

TICK

http://blog.justice4kelly.com

http://www.justice4kelly.com

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM
The Last Boy Scout

Montclair, NJ

#881 Feb 14, 2012
Hello My Friends,

The amount of postings has dropped dramatically, what's happening? Getting too hot in the kitchen?
Is it only myself and the Tinyes family that are still outraged by this injustice?

Come out of your warm fuzzy blankets and into the shocking cold reality of injustice. It could be you next; you could suffer the same calculated indifference that has been shown to this case, first by Denis Dillon and now Kathleen Rice.

Kathleen Rice, the warm-hearted District Attorney who, after meeting with Richard Tinyes, handed him her card with her private cell phone number written on it. "Call me, if you need to talk," she said, when Richie Tinyes did need to talk, she did not answer her cell phone.

I would not be surprised if she had a dozen cell numbers that she keeps for such occasions.

In the coming days, I will be laying out for you the deceitful underhanded game that is being been played by the Nassau County District Attorney, cloaked in the cover of the Secret Grand Jury process.

The chickens are coming home to roost Ms. Rice.

“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice …”

- U.S. v. Jannotti, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (3d Cir. 1982)

I have much more to say on this subject also, stayed tuned.

TICK

http://blog.justice4kelly.com

http://www.justice4kelly.com

I will be back, and back again!!!

God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,

With All My Heart,

The Last Boy Scout

THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM

Since: Mar 09

Kirkcaldy, UK

#882 Feb 15, 2012
The Last Boy Scout wrote:
Hello My Friends,
The amount of postings has dropped dramatically, what's happening? Getting too hot in the kitchen?
Is it only myself and the Tinyes family that are still outraged by this injustice?
Come out of your warm fuzzy blankets and into the shocking cold reality of injustice. It could be you next; you could suffer the same calculated indifference that has been shown to this case, first by Denis Dillon and now Kathleen Rice.
Kathleen Rice, the warm-hearted District Attorney who, after meeting with Richard Tinyes, handed him her card with her private cell phone number written on it. "Call me, if you need to talk," she said, when Richie Tinyes did need to talk, she did not answer her cell phone.
I would not be surprised if she had a dozen cell numbers that she keeps for such occasions.
In the coming days, I will be laying out for you the deceitful underhanded game that is being been played by the Nassau County District Attorney, cloaked in the cover of the Secret Grand Jury process.
The chickens are coming home to roost Ms. Rice.
“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice …”
- U.S. v. Jannotti, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (3d Cir. 1982)
I have much more to say on this subject also, stayed tuned.
TICK
http://blog.justice4kelly.com
http://www.justice4kelly.com
I will be back, and back again!!!
God Bless Kelly Ann and the Tinyes family,
With All My Heart,
The Last Boy Scout
THE DEAD CANNOT CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE LIVING TO DO SO FOR THEM
Dear Last Boy Scout & friends,

Pease beleive me that I will never give up on this case, lately I have had a lot of internet problems and thats been all it is. This week I have been doing a story, just personal, abut Kelly, with drawings, my own take on what happened that day.
I post regularly on Facebook and on the other forum, please don't ever think that I dont , because deep down you guys know that I do. I'm sickened by the inaction too of so called "Justice for Kelly" posters who disappear of the face of the earth. How insensitive can people be? Ah well, none more than Kathleen Rice it seems. She is a SLIMEY political animal. It's nutts, the crazy thing here is that she is comitting suicide. Any opponents for the next election will use this against her like a big base ball bat accross the head.

It hurt me to read that she gave Ritchy Tinyes a card saying to ''call me'' and when he did, she didn't answer. That makes me mad!
WE are outraged at everything to do with this case, we can see Kelly's friends and family have suffered enough without rubbing salt in to the wound. I know John Jay needs to be convicted, and I'll never give up. No wonder Robert kept looking at his little brother that morning he was being questioned. It was all a game to John Jay, I guess like his poker, it's a game, I cant wait for the finals. To see him loose in more ways than one. Because this is reality.....

Always staying tuned.
GodBless you all
Shar

JUSTICE FOR KELLY ~
Sid

New York, NY

#883 Feb 15, 2012
I'm here still... thinking about the case and the tinyes family and justice. What was the results of that poly that JJ took yrs ago? I assume Richard Tinyes left a message AND was still NOT called back? That would be terrible to hear. I hope it is political suicide for Rice if she bs'd the fam to further her own career appearing as an advocate for the fam and justice. Long island politics always bugged me when I was a resident there and I figured out as I grew up there what BS it ALL was for the most part. I understand noone from the golub fam has ever gone to visit him? how about write him? anyone in the corrections officer business here from RG prison any info at all? has anyone ever written robert from here ???? Forgive me if any of this is crazy...sometimes I'm just grasping for anything...anything at all to nail this creep OR creeps

“We get what we anticipate...”

Since: Aug 09

Long Island, NY

#884 Feb 16, 2012
So many questions and no answers. When will we see some forward momentum??

And why in the world did Kathleen Rice reopen this case anyway? Did she want 'brownie points' for appearing to be responsive to the Tinyes family? We were all so heartened by her taking that step -- and so hopeful about finally uncovering what went on behind closed doors in this case. I am referring to the crime of what happened behind the closed door of the Golub house -- and just as important, the crime of what went on behind the closed doors of the Nassau County DA's office, then and NOW.

Why did Kathleen Rice even bother to make what now appears to be such a completely empty gesture?

We are all beyond frustrated. We don't care where the chips fall. We want the truth about why JJ was allowed to walk away from what happened in his basement back in March of 1989.

It's not going away. Not now and not ever.

JUSTICE FOR KELLY

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Aunt JoAnn

Parsippany, NJ

#885 Feb 16, 2012
Hi, I just read the recent posts. Thank you Ancona for the warm welcome.

I also would like to say hi to Shar and introduce myself. I'm Kelly's aunt. I would like to thank you for your concern, support and hope that John J will one day be convicted.

Kelly was a beautiful girl. The way you talk about her on the other site is truly the way she is. You show so much love for this angel in heaven. Her laughter was a delight to hear. So much fun to be around.

I think she was around six and for her birthday I took her to get her ears pierced. She was so brave. We had a good day. Just remembering all the little things. Her birthday will be here soon.

I will never forget she came with me to pick up my new car. My two little one's were in the back and Kelly was showing me how to open the sun roof. We blasted the radio when "It takes two" came on and we were laughing and having so much fun. I have so many great memories of her.

In my last post, I had said John J was the focus because he is the one we all want convicted. It is so obvious he killed her with Robert. Yes, I do think Robert reads this board. Talk up Robert, take the focus off that little brother of yours. It's your time to be the one that we focus on. Do it, John J would do it to you if it was the other way around.

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