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Vallejo, CA

Mare Island next for 'mothball'?

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#69
Jul 24, 2008
 
Hmmmmm, Sam can sure say he was instrumental in this if/when he runs for council. Got my vote.
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#71
Jul 24, 2008
 
Sam Kurshan wrote:
This is practically a done deal.
I spent most of Tuesday evening introducing Rick Boden of Clean Harbors Environmental Services (the company Allied will be working with to create and maintain state of the art environmental containment and mitigation measures) to Mayor Davis, Council Member Bartee and City Manager Tanner.
Wednesday morning I met with Erin Hannigan for an hour, at Panama Red's at the ferry terminal. We spoke about Allieds efforts to do business at the Mare Island dry docks.
ALL of the city officials I just mentioned are ENTHUSIASTICALLY in favor of Allied's plans.
Allied will be putting together a public presentation which will be put on an agenda of a City Council meeting in August.
At that presentation, all questions and concerns relating to their environmental plan as well as their financial ability to implement and see this endeavor through will be addressed and answered.
At the end of the presentation, even those most skeptical of this plan will be enlightened to its merits.
Lennar is participating in ongoing negotiations with Allied and is in favor of this plan.
Allied is hoping to sign a lease as soon as September.
When this occurs Allied will bring 300 jobs to Vallejo. They will be hiring former Mare Island employees, citizens of Vallejo and will be creating an apprenticeship training program.
This along with Touro University's cancer center and university village will forever change the image of Vallejo into one of an environmental (Touro's buildings will be LEEDS certified) model to follow, one of science and research and one of state of the art ship building and dismantling.
It will pave the way for the Battleship IOWA to be permanently birthed at Mare Island, creating an new tourist industry.
It goes without saying, that this represents the economic rebirth of Vallejo.
Bravo Zulu for your dedication to this, and keeping those that are interested informed. So what if we have to dismantle a few wrecks first. it's win/win all around.
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#72
Jul 24, 2008
 
Thanks to Mr. Kurshan, XMI, and all the others writing here in support of MI.
Good job! I believe that Lennar will bend in favor of the drydock use to prevent being tossed out of the game.

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#74
Jul 24, 2008
 
Sam Kurshan wrote:
My pleasure.
I only wish more people would come to City Council meetings and express themselves there.
I would also suggest using the email address links found on the City of Vallejo's web site, to contact City Council members, the Mayor and the City Manager with your thoughts.
I already have sent e-mails to city council members. Guess who has not responded to my e-mail? Only two have not responded and I can give you a clue, both have been on TV

I have also been to many council meetings. They are boring. And I love it when Gomes rolls her eyes and turns her head when she does not want to hear anymore.

Sam, you are a good man, but some of the people you support are not doing the right thing for Vallejo.
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#75
Jul 24, 2008
 
Sam Kurshan wrote:
Never lose hope, never give up, when things get harder, fight harder.
Do not allow your frustration to cause you to quit.
Sam - propose we meet tomorrow around 1130 at Sardine Can to discuss MISY
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#76
Jul 24, 2008
 
Knowledgeable wrote:
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Sam - propose we meet tomorrow around 1130 at Sardine Can to discuss MISY
Additionally who is XMI - he/she appears to have considerable knowledge only know to a few
For those who care to contact us my secret e-mail is marinesmcgary@yahoo.com
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#77
Jul 24, 2008
 
This is great news for Vallejo, finally! There is still a lot of ex-shipyard talent available that had their careers interrupted by the closure. Man, I hope they will blow the whistle again at start work in the morning. It was the sound of life for Vallejo, quiet too many years now.
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#78
Jul 24, 2008
 
GEE wrote:
Thanks to Mr. Kurshan, XMI, and all the others writing here in support of MI.
Good job! I believe that Lennar will bend in favor of the drydock use to prevent being tossed out of the game.
I think that Lennar will recognize that this is going to reflect favorably on their public perception. I believe that there is plenty of opportunity on MI for our shipbuilding heritage, commerce, Touro/Seimens project, and housing development once it gets out of the slump. For that matter, with 3 or 4 hundred new employees in the Allied project, some of them may even buy a house over there.
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#79
Jul 24, 2008
 
I think Vallejo will get a lot of help from both the Federal and State governments when the drydocks are finally put back into service. The least the Feds can do is put up some dough for ship channel dredging if MI is going to take some of those heaps off their hands from Suisun. I think the State will expedite all the permitting as well, as indicated a couple weeks ago in the granting of the permit from the Water Board.
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#80
Jul 24, 2008
 
HUH wrote:
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I am not very familiar with LMI holding the keys to the treasure trove that is Mare Island.
How does one go about getting them to "let go" of the island being that they're also in the process of bankruptcy?
Is there any clause in the lease/purchase contract/whatever it is that LMI is holding that would pave the way for the city to re-take the property? What grounds? Non-performance of agreed to developments?
I don't know. Can someone shed a light on the matter please.
Our understanding is that the drydock area from Nimitz Ave to the waterfront in from the building ways to pier 25 was scheduled for turnover to the city sometime in 2008 under LMI's contract with the city. Issues to be resolved apparently relate to progress of remediation. Ultimately this area will be titled to the State Lands Commission with the city as trustee.
The US Navy currently retains title to the submerged lands complicating use issues and the dredging processes. Ultimately the submerged lands title will reside with the State Lands Commission once the BCT (Base Cleanup Team) completes all of their studies and environmental cleanup actions. To date no study of the submerged lands sediments has been accomplished and published by the Government. The only sampling I know of was accomplished by the US Army Reserve to dredge between piers 21 and 22.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Werner Hoyt wrote:
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Our understanding is that the drydock area from Nimitz Ave to the waterfront in from the building ways to pier 25 was scheduled for turnover to the city sometime in 2008 under LMI's contract with the city. Issues to be resolved apparently relate to progress of remediation. Ultimately this area will be titled to the State Lands Commission with the city as trustee.
The US Navy currently retains title to the submerged lands complicating use issues and the dredging processes. Ultimately the submerged lands title will reside with the State Lands Commission once the BCT (Base Cleanup Team) completes all of their studies and environmental cleanup actions. To date no study of the submerged lands sediments has been accomplished and published by the Government. The only sampling I know of was accomplished by the US Army Reserve to dredge between piers 21 and 22.
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Here is a link to the State Water Resources Board website and map that shows all of the remediation sites on Mare Island:

http://geotracker.swrcb.ca.gov/map/...

It appears that the two sites right next to the four dry docks have been successfully cleaned up and their cases closed. The one remaining site close to the dry docks is along railroad ave. at 17th street. I’m actually surprised to see that the dock area had very few areas that needed to be cleaned up.
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#82
Jul 25, 2008
 
Bill wrote:
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Here is a link to the State Water Resources Board website and map that shows all of the remediation sites on Mare Island:
http://geotracker.swrcb.ca.gov/map/...
It appears that the two sites right next to the four dry docks have been successfully cleaned up and their cases closed. The one remaining site close to the dry docks is along railroad ave. at 17th street. I’m actually surprised to see that the dock area had very few areas that needed to be cleaned up.
The drydocks have never had any "contamination" problems from work processes outside of normal housekeeping tasks during and after a use. They were always certified as "clean" as a prerequisite to the next flooding evolution. There are probably some unresolved issues at the location of the original Paint Shop just East of drydock 2, but the drydocks are ready to use, and Allied is bringing the shipyard back to life.
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