Touro leaders back Vallejo city manager

Touro leaders back Vallejo city manager

There are 133 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Feb 27, 2009, titled Touro leaders back Vallejo city manager. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

Touro University officials threatened to pull future funding for Mare Island development and an esteemed cancer center project in response to city leaders not renewing the city manager's contract this week.

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amused

Elk Grove, CA

#1 Feb 27, 2009
Touro is lis like a snake in the grass--keep your eye on them. They've been working on a master plan for far too long and keep asking for time extensions like Triad. Sounds like they are just looking for excuses to pull the plug and walk anyway.
JadedFuzz

San Francisco, CA

#2 Feb 27, 2009
I hope you are wrong amused. Touro University so far as I'm concerned has been a good neighbor. But privately investing their own money into Vallejo & Mare Island should only encourage other development around it. I believe most private developers expand their facilities with the hope of generating more income for them. Mare Island is an ideal spot to do it in. Alot of room for expansion. It should be a win win for both. I don't understand why Touro's leader though feels Joe Tanner is the city's savior. Whatever my personal feelings are towards Tanner, what has he done overall for the city? Wasn't Touro University here already before Tanner arrived? I read someplace that Touro officials were also worried about security with the lack of police services. Don't they have their own campus security force? With Touro's big plans why not invest some money into their own private security force. I hope they don't think like the schools Vallej has to provide a full time police officer to their facilities as well.
Shalom Yall

Redwood City, CA

#3 Feb 27, 2009
I like how Davis phrased his response. I think Gomes made a practical statement as well. Touro's letter, "not meant to be leaked to the public" was amateur, with grammatical errors and lots of exclamation marks! This is atypical in business correspondence from alleged "professionals".
I believe they have found a convenient political situation to abandon this project. Shalom Touro, shalom.
ShowMeTheMoney

Napa, CA

#4 Feb 27, 2009
Jaded Fuzz,you read about the issue of this so called "lack of police services" came from a ps apologist. Touro has never made that statement in public or in any official capacity. Any business would naturally have concerns regarding security, but that is not the issue before the city. Maybe Touro is concerned about the lack of leadership facing Vallejo based on a series of bad decisions that have recently been made. Or maybe the lack of clear direction the city officials have been displaying by voting to take the city into bankruptcy court to undo employee contracts that the city could not afford. They then turn right around and sign new contract that contain many of the same provisions that brought them to bankruptcy to begin with. It could be that the mayor's lack of ethics in his quest to bring in his corrupt buddies like Grigsby, to buy up the city's debt in return for giving up control of MI? Or the fact that after he had his hands slapped for implementing the "strong mayor" type of government before the people had a chance to vote on changing the City's Charter, and trying to give direction to the city's employees as if they worked for him. Then you have the conflicted funded stooges that appear to be even more confused about the issues and more than willing to support the man who would be king.

Now those factors alone would give any new venture, cause to pause.
ShowUsTheMoney

Redwood City, CA

#5 Feb 27, 2009
Touro has only said they have the money, the partner, and the power to develop this project, downsized and changed from the original research/campus/retail with that outrageous obelisk in the quad.
Why they did not address council on the Tanner issue when they had the podium is odd as well.
Thanks Mayor Davis for your well framed response to this nonsense. Our city does not revolve around one person.
ShowMeTheMoney

Napa, CA

#6 Feb 27, 2009
Shalom Yall wrote:
I like how Davis phrased his response. I think Gomes made a practical statement as well. Touro's letter, "not meant to be leaked to the public" was amateur, with grammatical errors and lots of exclamation marks! This is atypical in business correspondence from alleged "professionals".
I believe they have found a convenient political situation to abandon this project. Shalom Touro, shalom.
Oh scooter, and we all know how astute you are. It must be tiring to spend your entire day finding new names to post under and trying to divert the issues in the typical PSU smoke and mirrors style. Being the faithful PSU lap dog, you must be looking forward to that pat on your head, in return for pooping in Touro's yard.

The only negative comments regarding Touro's intent have come from people who have an axe to grind with Tanner. The attempt to raise doubt for Touro's funding ability is based on more lies these same people have made about a supposed "bail out" by a major partner when the facts indicated that the partner pulled out of all US projects. The psu and their puppets have been yelling about the lack of new revenues and jobs, and now are trying to smear the only viable project that the city has going. The root to all of this hypocrisy is in their hatred of Tanner. Plain and simple.
GetOutWhileYouCa n

Redwood City, CA

#7 Feb 27, 2009
ShowMeTheMoney wrote:
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Oh scooter, and we all know how astute you are. It must be tiring to spend your entire day finding new names to post under and trying to divert the issues in the typical PSU smoke and mirrors style. Being the faithful PSU lap dog, you must be looking forward to that pat on your head, in return for pooping in Touro's yard.
The only negative comments regarding Touro's intent have come from people who have an axe to grind with Tanner. The attempt to raise doubt for Touro's funding ability is based on more lies these same people have made about a supposed "bail out" by a major partner when the facts indicated that the partner pulled out of all US projects. The psu and their puppets have been yelling about the lack of new revenues and jobs, and now are trying to smear the only viable project that the city has going. The root to all of this hypocrisy is in their hatred of Tanner. Plain and simple.
I have realized that I really get under your skin in a variety of ways. You believe everything Touro tells you, I do not.
Shalom.
VHS

San Mateo, CA

#8 Feb 27, 2009
ShowMeTheMoney wrote:
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Oh scooter, and we all know how astute you are. It must be tiring to spend your entire day finding new names to post under and trying to divert the issues in the typical PSU smoke and mirrors style. Being the faithful PSU lap dog, you must be looking forward to that pat on your head, in return for pooping in Touro's yard.
The only negative comments regarding Touro's intent have come from people who have an axe to grind with Tanner. The attempt to raise doubt for Touro's funding ability is based on more lies these same people have made about a supposed "bail out" by a major partner when the facts indicated that the partner pulled out of all US projects. The psu and their puppets have been yelling about the lack of new revenues and jobs, and now are trying to smear the only viable project that the city has going. The root to all of this hypocrisy is in their hatred of Tanner. Plain and simple.
You are wrong. There are some of us who look at the situation objectively. The world in a financial collapse, the country is in a depression, the state is bankrupt, Vallejo is bankrupt, Lennar is bankrupt, credit has dried up. If you add this up it doesn't surprise me that Touro is having financial difficulties. I don't care what Touro's front men say, we've all been around the block once or twice, I think the reality of the situation speaks for itself. Vallejo holds the cards here, we have a large tract of prime California water front land that we will consider selling for a dollar if a job producing industry will move in a build. Let's do a little advertising and see if there are any other interests out there that might want to set up shop here.
Easy Being Green

Redwood City, CA

#10 Feb 27, 2009
VHS wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong. There are some of us who look at the situation objectively. The world in a financial collapse, the country is in a depression, the state is bankrupt, Vallejo is bankrupt, Lennar is bankrupt, credit has dried up. If you add this up it doesn't surprise me that Touro is having financial difficulties. I don't care what Touro's front men say, we've all been around the block once or twice, I think the reality of the situation speaks for itself. Vallejo holds the cards here, we have a large tract of prime California water front land that we will consider selling for a dollar if a job producing industry will move in a build. Let's do a little advertising and see if there are any other interests out there that might want to set up shop here.
Good point, friend. I wonder if this could change the dynamics of the Tesla Group's search if they knew this MAY be available. There would sure be a lot more jobs suited to locals and ARRA funding for clean tech and especially hybrid autos, not to mention huge tracts of CEQA exempt land for solar farm/s.
Silas Barnabe

Vallejo, CA

#11 Feb 27, 2009
VHS wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong. There are some of us who look at the situation objectively. The world in a financial collapse, the country is in a depression, the state is bankrupt, Vallejo is bankrupt, Lennar is bankrupt, credit has dried up. If you add this up it doesn't surprise me that Touro is having financial difficulties. I don't care what Touro's front men say, we've all been around the block once or twice, I think the reality of the situation speaks for itself. Vallejo holds the cards here, we have a large tract of prime California water front land that we will consider selling for a dollar if a job producing industry will move in a build. Let's do a little advertising and see if there are any other interests out there that might want to set up shop here.
Your two statements don't go well together. One the one hand you say the economy is in the dumps, and then pn the other you Vallejo has "prime" waterfront land. The land is only prime if it is a commodity in demand, how could there be demand when the "world is in a financial collapse".
Here Comes CleanTech

Fairfield, CA

#12 Feb 27, 2009
Dear Mayor,
Please request Touro make a decision today. If NO, direct Tanner to put forth the same dedicated effort to secure Clean Tech partners for the North end. This will not be difficult. They are out there looking for sites, especially brownfield sites. This will produce more jobs quickly for the community and they can power themselves with with a variety of solar applications or build the North Housing site 6 mw plant as has been discussed with staff.
The Tesla brownfield search is still not decided either as far as I know.
This is no time for politics. Vallejo must be saved with firm commitment to the future. Clean tech is what the critics of MI reuse wanted instead of industry and it is on our doorstep!
ShowMeTheMoney

Napa, CA

#13 Feb 27, 2009
ShowUsTheMoney wrote:
Our city does not revolve around one person.
Absolutely! It does not center around the mayor. The charter has not been changed. We do not have a strong mayor city. The oz is not king, nor does he have the right to kill the only deal that is moving forward at this time.

The PS apologist have more personalities than Sybil. One day they hate the mayor and call for his removal, the next day they sit at his feet. They yell for more revenues and jobs, and then besmirch the only project Vallejo has to bring in those revenues and jobs. The PSU and their puppets are on a clear mission to destroy Vallejo and are the true haters of this city.
john

Vacaville, CA

#14 Feb 27, 2009
...what about support for the OTHER money pit known as Salerno!
i heard that

Redwood City, CA

#15 Feb 27, 2009
Here Comes CleanTech wrote:
Dear Mayor,
Please request Touro make a decision today. If NO, direct Tanner to put forth the same dedicated effort to secure Clean Tech partners for the North end. This will not be difficult. They are out there looking for sites, especially brownfield sites. This will produce more jobs quickly for the community and they can power themselves with with a variety of solar applications or build the North Housing site 6 mw plant as has been discussed with staff.
The Tesla brownfield search is still not decided either as far as I know.
This is no time for politics. Vallejo must be saved with firm commitment to the future. Clean tech is what the critics of MI reuse wanted instead of industry and it is on our doorstep!
yes! take that touro hostage note, and all their nice "frank lloyd wright style" drawings, tear them in half, and let them pout (like they will anyway).
bring us jobs now!!(like there will be any for us when this megazapper is built. plus, as i understand it, there is no where to "plug it in"?)
ShowMeTheMoney

Napa, CA

#16 Feb 27, 2009
GetOutWhileYouCan wrote:
<quoted text>I have realized that I really get under your skin in a variety of ways. You believe everything Touro tells you, I do not.
Shalom.
You are like the daily funnies and an easy mark. Just like discovering the missing letter in a crosswood puzzle. A way to pass the time while enjoying my Latte and a scone.(And let me help you out scooter. That's coffee with half and half and a pastry.)
CheckThisOut

Redwood City, CA

#17 Feb 27, 2009
(Funny)that the PSU critics always include a blast at the Chamber of Commerce GOB's and GOG's in town, yet when two of them stand at the podium on behalf of Touro, it's "different".
Like the man sez: wads up wid dat?
JBH

United States

#19 Feb 27, 2009
A bird in the hand!!!!!!!
A man with a brain!!!!!!!
We may lose both!!!!!!!!!
ShowMeTheMoney

Napa, CA

#20 Feb 27, 2009
VHS wrote:
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You are wrong. There are some of us who look at the situation objectively. The world in a financial collapse, the country is in a depression, the state is bankrupt, Vallejo is bankrupt, Lennar is bankrupt, credit has dried up. If you add this up it doesn't surprise me that Touro is having financial difficulties. I don't care what Touro's front men say, we've all been around the block once or twice, I think the reality of the situation speaks for itself. Vallejo holds the cards here, we have a large tract of prime California water front land that we will consider selling for a dollar if a job producing industry will move in a build. Let's do a little advertising and see if there are any other interests out there that might want to set up shop here.
For someone that has said that the city needs to stop driving businesses away, you seem conflicted. Are we to believe now that you too feel the need to question Touro's land use like others question walmart's location and land use?

The down sizing of the project doesn't change it's viability. So why now are you intent on putting the only game in town in a negative light?
Casual Observer

Benicia, CA

#22 Feb 27, 2009
If Touro took into consideration the stability of Vallejo in any capacity, it would NOT have come here in the first place.

They came because Vallejo is cheap. It sells its assets cheap, especially to city council members. Cheap, cheap, cheap. Even then, most businesses will not relocate here. Cheap comes with its consequences and now Touro has been thrown into the cesspool of Vallejo politics, Vallejo life.
Casual Observer

Benicia, CA

#23 Feb 27, 2009
Silas Barnabe wrote:
<quoted text>Your two statements don't go well together. One the one hand you say the economy is in the dumps, and then pn the other you Vallejo has "prime" waterfront land. The land is only prime if it is a commodity in demand, how could there be demand when the "world is in a financial collapse".
He qualified one of the statements by stating Vallejo is willing to sell for $1. Vallejo is one sorry city. How much did State Farm pay to develop that "ugly" on our prime waterfront?

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