Vallejo backs Lowe's conceptual plans

Vallejo backs Lowe's conceptual plans

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WAZ UP WID DAT

Vacaville, CA

#1 Jul 24, 2009
We will never be able to replace the jobs that Mare Island generated, and therefore should look at other successfull cites to see what kind of retail they have. It would be a perfect world to have only mom and pop shops and quaint eateries, but that is a long gone era, before computers, before mass transit, before a lot of things. We have to move forward, and Lowes would generate a good tax base for Vallejo, as well as provide good jobs. The folks that worked at the now closed Yard Birds can find jobs at Lowes, much preferred for their customer service and knowledgeable staff than Home Depot.
V Luv

Hercules, CA

#2 Jul 24, 2009
Hey Joe Feller, maybe you can run Florence Douglas for mayor next time, too.
Larry

Benicia, CA

#3 Jul 24, 2009
I think Joe Feller needs to take his anti-growth bull*** someplace else. We have no growth in Vallejo now, stores are closing left and right and when a major chain like Lowe's wishes to build here, I think we should welcome them. We need the tax revenue and the jobs.
Linda

United States

#4 Jul 24, 2009
Lowe's doesn't allow illegals to hang out in their parking lot. That would be a plus for me.
Gran Torino

Vallejo, CA

#5 Jul 24, 2009
Joe Feller, anti-everything.
V I B

Orinda, CA

#6 Jul 24, 2009
Lowe's is a good store, but don't hold your breath on them opening soon. We have heard this story before.

Remember? Touro and the cancer center. GONE

Vallejo Waterfront development. GONE

Walmart super store GONE

Frozen Food Factory in Vallejo GONE

Car Manufacture on Mare Island GONE

Development of MI, homes, condos GONE
businesses

Instead, Vallejo spends millions on
Empress to show OLD movies to city
council members and VIB and so they have
a place to drink martinis.

Instead, Vallejo is building a cement
parking structure on Santa Clara Street
far away from the Ferry Building and in
a High Crime area.

Yeah, I'd say Vallejo is on the right path alright
Vallejoan

Vallejo, CA

#7 Jul 24, 2009
Dear Mr. Feller:

Where do you or anyone else for that matter start telling private business and us the citizens of Vallejo that since there are enough hardware stores we don't need any more.

"I think we have adequate hardware stores..."

You are plain wrong on the facts however. Vallejo presently has Home Depot, O'Connor Lumber and Foster Lumber. For a city the size of Vallejo that number is in sufficient to generate competition that allows for choice from the consumer to choose where they wish to purchase.

At one time Vallejo had one hardware store on Springs Road, one on Broadway and one on Tennessee Street. Orchard Supply was also located here. They went out of business presumably because of Home Depot coming to Vallejo but then there was also Home Base. They closed shortly after opening probably due to proximity/competition to Home Depot.

The choice of Lowe's to locate so close to Home Depot might or might not be a wise choice but that's up to competition to evaluate.

Mr. Feller please let the Fairground situation work it's way through as well.

My guess is you are a recent resident to Vallejo. Not that there is anything wrong with that but to start telling us what's good for us is a tad too presumptuous for my taste.
Mr Green

Napa, CA

#8 Jul 24, 2009
But why occupy the failed autorow? Lowe's should be on Sonoma. You've got the old K-Mart site, Mervyn's, Bill Lang's Mazda Cadillac site, the old Wal Mart site. Why does Vallejo keep putting business in bad locations? That autorow is a FAILURE. Not to mention all the tax giveaways they got. Someone's gotta be getting kicked down some bread for this "deal"! When is this backdoor b.s. going to end?
vallejo stinks

San Bruno, CA

#9 Jul 24, 2009
Finally the paper does a story on this. Yes we want Lowes but where they are going is stupid. They have done everything behind the backs of Vallejoans so far and that in it self is WRONG. Sonoma Blvd is a much better and needed site. But our leaders just throw the citizens under the bus and ram rod a project with no input from us. We are one stupid group of citizens that will never have a nice town.
J C Bose

Suisun City, CA

#10 Jul 24, 2009
That's great, just what we need so that Ace and Foster lumber can go out of business. It's great that soon we won't be able to tell Vallejo, Fairfield, Vacaville apart. It's great the people here are mindless materialistic sheep. More power to China.
Why Shoot the Messenger

United States

#11 Jul 24, 2009
It is completely irrelevant to jump on Joe Feller for the incompetency that is the City of Vallejo. Are you mad that someone is pointing out the failures of this city? Was this really a secret until Mr. Feller spoke to the Times-Herald? Direct your comments and frustrations to the people responsible for failed development after failed development after failed development etc. in Vallejo. The people entrusted to run this city are constantly approving horribly flawed plans that will never see the light of day, and that is the issue that should be addressed.
OCD

Benicia, CA

#12 Jul 24, 2009
Joe Says:
"I'm opposed to it, but I haven't put much effort into it, and as far as I know, no organization is fighting it," said Joe Feller of Vallejo, a member of Vallejoans For Responsible Growth. That's the group that spearheaded the fight against the proposed Vallejo Wal-Mart Supercenter that was subsequently never built.

I say:
Hey Joe, in case you haven't noticed there has been NO growth in a while! Could you and the rest of the VJO anti-growth cronies please let this one go through so we can get some of our citizens working..Why not go and protest some of the more seedier establishments in VJO.
GregoryZephyr

Vallejo, CA

#13 Jul 24, 2009
Sonoma is not a good place for a super-regional retailer like Lowes. They need to draw traffic from across the region and the I-80 corridor is the best fit. It's not a place most people go every week like a grocery store so they need customers from Fairfield, Benicia, even Richmond.

If this goes through, they ought to consider reworking that big autorow sign they have. They should include all the big box retailers on that sign (Target, Costco, Best Buy, Kohls, etc. plus all the restaurants and movie theater) to help elevate the awareness of those stores as a means of getting more people to get off the freeway and shop in Vallejo. Except for Target, unless you know where you are going, you'd never see all those stores are there.
citizen

Vacaville, CA

#14 Jul 24, 2009
To close to the home depot. Why not use the old walmart building by food 4 less.
OCD

Benicia, CA

#15 Jul 24, 2009
GregoryZephyr wrote:
Sonoma is not a good place for a super-regional retailer like Lowes. They need to draw traffic from across the region and the I-80 corridor is the best fit. It's not a place most people go every week like a grocery store so they need customers from Fairfield, Benicia, even Richmond.
If this goes through, they ought to consider reworking that big autorow sign they have. They should include all the big box retailers on that sign (Target, Costco, Best Buy, Kohls, etc. plus all the restaurants and movie theater) to help elevate the awareness of those stores as a means of getting more people to get off the freeway and shop in Vallejo. Except for Target, unless you know where you are going, you'd never see all those stores are there.
Great Comments Gregory! Perhaps you should run for a City position...
Vallejoan

Vallejo, CA

#16 Jul 24, 2009
I think some of you are missing the point. In a perfect world Lowe's should be located in a place that draws from a new customer base which doesn't take customers from existing business and adds a new dimension to the community.

But in the final analysis it's up to Lowe's where they want to go as long as it fits into the area.

If they want to go head to head with Home Depot that's their business. If we try and micro manage this it too will go away and we'll all be looking at each other wondering what happened.

I would rather that they tried and failed than not to have tried at all.
Married in the Bay

United States

#17 Jul 24, 2009
vallejo stinks wrote:
Finally the paper does a story on this. Yes we want Lowes but where they are going is stupid. They have done everything behind the backs of Vallejoans so far and that in it self is WRONG. Sonoma Blvd is a much better and needed site. But our leaders just throw the citizens under the bus and ram rod a project with no input from us. We are one stupid group of citizens that will never have a nice town.
When you shell out the money for a site, you can determine where you want it to be. Why should Lowe's have to go where some residents think is best for them. Wouldn't you want to decide your marketplace rather than put it up for common opinion?
Anonymous

Benicia, CA

#18 Jul 24, 2009
Vallejoan wrote:
I think some of you are missing the point. In a perfect world Lowe's should be located in a place that draws from a new customer base which doesn't take customers from existing business and adds a new dimension to the community.
But in the final analysis it's up to Lowe's where they want to go as long as it fits into the area.
If they want to go head to head with Home Depot that's their business. If we try and micro manage this it too will go away and we'll all be looking at each other wondering what happened.
I would rather that they tried and failed than not to have tried at all.
If Lowes goes in so close to Home Depot, it could simply draw the Home Depot customer base and its a sum zero gain for Vallejo's sales tax base. Could even force HD out and then we have another empyu behemoth building? How smart is that? Although a Lowes could force HD to go forward with their stalled plans to put in a store where the vacant WalMart on Sonoma.
Marley

San Ramon, CA

#19 Jul 24, 2009
Lowe's has been stalled by a group of old mossbacks in Sonora for the past five years. Sonora could use all the jobs created. I hope Vallejo acts more prudently!
dave1021

United States

#20 Jul 24, 2009
"Sonoma is not a good place for a super-regional retailer like Lowes. They need to draw traffic from across the region and the I-80 corridor is the best fit. It's not a place most people go every week like a grocery store so they need customers from Fairfield, Benicia, even Richmond."

Fairfield and Richmond already have Lowes. If you're driving from Benicia, you just stay on 780 as it turns into Curtola and then Sonoma Blvd.

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