WinCo Foods eyes Vallejo Elks Lodge s...

WinCo Foods eyes Vallejo Elks Lodge site for new grocery store

There are 68 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Jun 22, 2010, titled WinCo Foods eyes Vallejo Elks Lodge site for new grocery store. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

If some folks had their druthers, Vallejo's Elks Lodge would move to Amador and Florida streets and a new WinCo Foods store would be built on the Redwood Parkway site where the Elks Lodge now stands.

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Bubba

Vallejo, CA

#1 Jun 22, 2010
Have you seen the WinCo Vacaville site? Lots and lots of parking, a huge store. No way is the Elks Lodge property big enough to handle anything remotely similar to the Vacaville store, not to mention the traffic problems it would cause.
Wanglow

Vallejo, CA

#2 Jun 22, 2010
The entire "search" for a new Elks home is the result of several local Real Estate crooks and a slimy "lawyer" conning the old-timers into voting to sell the valuable Elks club on Adm Callaghan for a song. A SECRET "buyer" was given a two-year option to buy the property (for a fraction of it's real value) for the princely sum of $500. The 6.5 acres of prime real estate was NEVER listed publicly so that fair bidding could take place, thereby denying the members and the Elks International the benefit of realizing the propertys real value. They were also told specfically that there would be no Capitol gains tax on the increase in value from the time the property was purchased in 1957 and now; A bold-face lie. These handful of self-serving charlatans have engineered this sale for their own personal benefit and gain at the expense of the local members and their families. These are familiar names locally and they have been in the business of taking unfair advantage of inexperienced and naive individuals for many years. The existing property has many valuable ammenities (huge parking lot, full banquet facilities, kitchen, dinning room and large bar, finest pool hall in Vallejo, swimming pool, fully equipped sports complex and immediate access right off I 80) and to sell it without learning it's actual value by competitive bidding is nothing short of criminal, regardless of how a tiny fraction of members were convinced to vote. The International organization should be made fully aware of the actions of these few men and of the unfair advantage they have taken of the members. Fairly the property should be listed on the open market (by an uninvolved real estate company) and all bidders should be given the chance to offer. The Elks cannot afford a "new" facility at the expense of losing millions of dollars on the old one. The story is not over and it's past time for the light to shine on these back-room dealings.
Resident Near Elks Lodge

Vallejo, CA

#3 Jun 22, 2010
WinCo? That's just great. I guess I'll have to keep driving to Fairfield, Concord and Napa to spend my money at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I'm still bitter about Vallejo driving Nugget away. And why put another grocery store in an area already served by several others? There are parts of Vallejo that barely have access to a real grocery store (unless you drive or take the bus).
Anonymous

Benicia, CA

#4 Jun 22, 2010
WinCo would have been really good for Downtown.
Downtown residents need a good place to shop.
WinCo would have provided the Downtown foot traffic.
SeanB

Downey, CA

#5 Jun 22, 2010
Resident Near Elks Lodge wrote:
WinCo? That's just great. I guess I'll have to keep driving to Fairfield, Concord and Napa to spend my money at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I'm still bitter about Vallejo driving Nugget away. And why put another grocery store in an area already served by several others? There are parts of Vallejo that barely have access to a real grocery store (unless you drive or take the bus).
I agree with you 100%, as far as the proposed location. It does not make any sense. If this project is approved for that location, traffic is going to be out of control. I used to live across the street at Village View apartments many years ago and traffic was bad then. Also it was mentioned about putting WinCo downtown or near downtown that is the most logical location. The people who live downtown are in need of a grocery store.
Jojo

United States

#6 Jun 22, 2010
Vallejo is a mistake! Hope you can absorb the losses in theft by employees and customers alike.

Then again, WinCo is not much more then a higher class of a welfare food store. One will note the user crowd during a visit.
Jojo

United States

#7 Jun 22, 2010
Resident Near Elks Lodge wrote:
WinCo? That's just great. I guess I'll have to keep driving to Fairfield, Concord and Napa to spend my money at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I'm still bitter about Vallejo driving Nugget away. And why put another grocery store in an area already served by several others? There are parts of Vallejo that barely have access to a real grocery store (unless you drive or take the bus).
Nugget is too expensive and high class for Vallejo. You and I know that! Ever been inside such a store? I have. One doesn't feel real comfortable inside unless you are upper crust. Conversely, WinCo makes one feel uncomfortable if one is not poor.
Your opinion matters

Azusa, CA

#8 Jun 22, 2010
Why don't you voice your concerns at the City meetings instead of on the comments section of the TH. That way, you can officially be heard....(just a suggestion).
cOOL

Vallejo, CA

#9 Jun 22, 2010
Good to hear of new business planning to move into Vallejo. Hope it works out
Another Reader

San Francisco, CA

#10 Jun 22, 2010
WinCo? Vallejo can't have it. WinCo and WalMart both start with W's. Not high-class enough. LOL
GEE

Anchorage, AK

#11 Jun 22, 2010
Resident Near Elks Lodge wrote:
WinCo? That's just great. I guess I'll have to keep driving to Fairfield, Concord and Napa to spend my money at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I'm still bitter about Vallejo driving Nugget away. And why put another grocery store in an area already served by several others? There are parts of Vallejo that barely have access to a real grocery store (unless you drive or take the bus).
Nugget saw the writing on the wall and split before investing their dollars in a project that was doomed from the start. Given the ultimatum that they would not come to Vallejo if Wallie-Mart could locate at the old K-Mart site fit their pull-out perfectly. Never mind, Costco the biggest of box stores, is sitting in front of their door! Since Wallie decided otherwise, Nugget could have reconsidered and opened shop on the proposed prepared location, which btw still sits vacant!

You turn your nose up on WinCo, but state that several parts of Vallejo do not have access to a real grocery,(which I agree with). Obviously they have done their homework and would be willing to come to a town every other business is fleeing.
I have never shopped at a WinCo and may never do so, but they do seem to have their followers.

I do not know how the Elks Lodge property would fit into the overall picture, but would welcome a new business (besides the snooty Trader Joe's etc. whose management seems to thumb their noses at us besides all the sucking-up we are doing!).

I am looking forward to hear from others who seem to have more info about the property and the behind the scene dealings that usually go with such projects.

Art

Vallejo, CA

#12 Jun 22, 2010
WinCo couldn't just apply for the former K-Mart property on Sonoma Blvd.? I'm sure that the Safeway on Admiral Callaghan Lane behind the Elks Club wouldn't be too happy with a WinCo right next to it! Maybe WinCo could take over the abandoned Car Dealership on the Corner of Columbus Pkwy and Admiral Callaghan Lane, eh? Or put in for the available undeveloped and proposed area behind the Toyota Used Car Dealer on Admiral Callaghan Lane. I'm sure that Kohl's would love the possibility of those Customers right across the street from them!
Kay

Vallejo, CA

#13 Jun 22, 2010
Jojo wrote:
Vallejo is a mistake! Hope you can absorb the losses in theft by employees and customers alike.
Then again, WinCo is not much more then a higher class of a welfare food store. One will note the user crowd during a visit.
As a former Vacaville resident, I take offense at your comment about Winco. It is an employee-owned company, has a lot of bulk foods, is open 24 hours and actually asks the customer to pack their own bags. Good place to shop and, as one person you may have seen there, I am not "welfare class". You are totally mistaken about Winco. I believe it would be a good fit for Vallejo, with appropriate security. Think jobs, dummy!
The Historian

Oakland, CA

#14 Jun 22, 2010
If WinCo buys in and opens a store here it will be a major winner for shoppers and for the city. However, expect city hall to make it near impossible for this piece of good news to actually happen.
The Historian

Oakland, CA

#15 Jun 22, 2010
Resident Near Elks Lodge wrote:
WinCo? That's just great. I guess I'll have to keep driving to Fairfield, Concord and Napa to spend my money at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I'm still bitter about Vallejo driving Nugget away. And why put another grocery store in an area already served by several others? There are parts of Vallejo that barely have access to a real grocery store (unless you drive or take the bus).
Get over Trader Joe's. They are not coming to Vallejo. Hopefully they will at least make it to Benicia.
Kim

Daly City, CA

#16 Jun 22, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
WinCo would have been really good for Downtown.
Downtown residents need a good place to shop.
WinCo would have provided the Downtown foot traffic.
Nobody will go downtown until prostitution and drug dealing, loitering, pimping cleaned up.
Former REZ

Berkeley, CA

#17 Jun 22, 2010
Wow these are all really good thoughts (for once). Having shopped at Winco the location does not seem like the best and would better serve Vallejo elsewhere. Pick a spot any spot, there's plenty!

However, Vallejo is already starting the red tape talk. That's how all new businesses die in this town. Businesses don't want red tape they expect the City to just "make it happen" as they very well should.

So let's hope that it gets figured out before they loose out but here's a thought ... why is it the only big stores looking to land in Vallejo always revolve around food?
Sam Kurshan

AOL

#18 Jun 22, 2010
Will they sell cheetos at a discount?
Clean Up

AOL

#19 Jun 22, 2010
Art wrote:
WinCo couldn't just apply for the former K-Mart property on Sonoma Blvd.? I'm sure that the Safeway on Admiral Callaghan Lane behind the Elks Club wouldn't be too happy with a WinCo right next to it! Maybe WinCo could take over the abandoned Car Dealership on the Corner of Columbus Pkwy and Admiral Callaghan Lane, eh? Or put in for the available undeveloped and proposed area behind the Toyota Used Car Dealer on Admiral Callaghan Lane. I'm sure that Kohl's would love the possibility of those Customers right across the street from them!
Very good ideas!
GEE

Anchorage, AK

#20 Jun 22, 2010
Former REZ wrote:
So let's hope that it gets figured out before they loose out but here's a thought ... why is it the only big stores looking to land in Vallejo always revolve around food?
....because the majority of humanity loves to eat! If we can no longer afford to feed ourselves, we are done.

Why not the old K-Mart site? For starters, Wallie still owns the property and propably will hang on to it until the cows come home. Secondly, since you bring up Safeway next to the proposed WinCo site, how about Seafood City? Do you believe they would open their arms wide to WinCo across from them and now would have serious competition to content with?

Why do some of you insist on dissing a legitimate business,(in the planning stages), especially as one blogger pointed out, is employee owned and operated? The theft and security issues are real, but probably are the same as for all Vallejo businesses.
If you feel you can not support WinCo or any other business whose businessplan you object to simply do not patronize them.....others will, it is called freedom of choice!

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