California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

[bboy777]

its got my vote

[RiccardoFire]

Susanna Gordon wrote:

On Principle: I have to drive to Nevada to get the kind of trans fat I use in cake frosting for my business, since the state decided it can't be sold here.
But I can get Marijuana?
Where's the logic?
There is also the fact that the police can more readily tell if a person has been consuming alcohol. With pot, just as dangerous behind the wheel, and not so easily noticed.

I'm still waiting for your answer?

[tweet_zamora]

CitizenTopix wrote:

Proposition 19 would change California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed:
- Allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use.
- Permits local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older.
- Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old.
- Maintains current prohibitions against driving while impaired.
How will you vote on November 2?

I'm going to agree with Tinamo from Glendale down below....but i believe prop 19 is on to something and should pass after we define a few more laws within the prop.....in addition, these laws would be both at the federal and state level approved....I am also surprised that the age is not 18 versus the proposed 21.....they can die (military) for us but they can't have a drink or smoke?...confused :-)

[Happy Camper]

How about this? Everyone that believes in freedom and personal responsibility, raise your left hand. Now, use your right hand to punch anyone who doesn't have their left hand up!

Thank you!

[Asian Guy]

amsterdam legalized it way back when and is now changing that policy.

do you wonder why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_t...

obviously, they have learned the lesson. illicit drugs are not good for society.

personally,I don't think we should legalize drugs. but I believe the only way for people to finally understand this is to allow it to be legalized. see the results.

amsterday learned. the usa will learn.

not as bad as alcohol? imagine double the number of dui. maybe even more...

drugs make you stupid. don't believe me? watch repo-man on tv. check out what's happening on capitol hill.

[Bruno24]

A lot of things makes human stupid, and making something illegal for that reason, can only add irresponsibility to the stupidity.

Drug does not exist. A drug is a medication made illegal so that its price is multiplied by one hundred and so that the sellers can target the kids, sell it without taxes, without any quality control, etc.

Each time a drug is prohibited, its consumption rises and you make the drug dealers happy. Prohibition is enforced by the drug dealers, and the people corrupted by it.

There has never been a drug problem, only health related problem, which can be cured rather easily, when the medication for it are legal, of course (like tabernanthe iboga, salvia divinorum).

We have to legalize all drugs, because if you exchange an atom of liberty for security, you loose both. Simply. Prohibition is anti-constitutional, really.

[mrblueman30]

MY UNCLE WAS KINNAPPED BY THE TIJUANA CARTEL AND HELD FOR RANSO, WE PAID THE 250K AND THEY STILL KILLED HIM. MORE THEN 80 PERCENT OF ALL DRUG CARTEL PROFITS COME FROM MARIJUANA, IF YOU DONT DELIEVE ME WATCH THE SHOW BORDER WARS ON NAT GEO. FOR EVERY 50 POUNDS OF COCAINE THEY FIND THEY FIND 50,000 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA. PLEASE VOTE YES ON PROP 19 IM BEGGING YOU. IF THEY DONT HAVE THE PROFIT FROM MARIJUANA THEY CANT AFFORD TO BUY GUNS AND PAY FOOT SOLDIERS TO DO THEIR BIDDING.
R.I.P UNCLE

[Asian Guy]

Bruno24 wrote:

A lot of things makes human stupid, and making something illegal for that reason, can only add irresponsibility to the stupidity.
Drug does not exist. A drug is a medication made illegal so that its price is multiplied by one hundred and so that the sellers can target the kids, sell it without taxes, without any quality control, etc.
Each time a drug is prohibited, its consumption rises and you make the drug dealers happy. Prohibition is enforced by the drug dealers, and the people corrupted by it.
There has never been a drug problem, only health related problem, which can be cured rather easily, when the medication for it are legal, of course (like tabernanthe iboga, salvia divinorum).
We have to legalize all drugs, because if you exchange an atom of liberty for security, you loose both. Simply. Prohibition is anti-constitutional, really.

the biggest myth about legalizing illicit drugs is that crime will decrease once it is legalized.

the above link in my previous post talks about this point.

read it and learn.

[Provocateur]

Asian Guy wrote:

<quoted text>
the biggest myth about legalizing illicit drugs is that crime will decrease once it is legalized.
the above link in my previous post talks about this point.
read it and learn.

Try to think outside the Fox.

COPS SAY LEGALIZE DRUGS!
ASK US WHY
After nearly four decades of fueling the U.S. policy of a war on drugs with over a trillion tax dollars and 37 million arrests for nonviolent drug offenses, our confined population has quadrupled making building prisons the fastest growing industry in the United States. More than 2.2 million of our citizens are currently incarcerated and every year we arrest an additional 1.9 million more guaranteeing those prisons will be bursting at their seams. Every year we choose to continue this war will cost U.S. taxpayers another 69 billion dollars. Despite all the lives we have destroyed and all the money so ill spent, today illicit drugs are cheaper, more potent, and far easier to get than they were 35 years ago at the beginning of the war on drugs. Meanwhile, people continue dying in our streets while drug barons and terrorists continue to grow richer than ever before. We would suggest that this scenario must be the very definition of a failed public policy. This madness must cease!

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[Billy for justice]

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[Raydot]

I think marijuana should be like vegetables in your backyard garden. Whats the big deal. It should be like fruit trees. People sell fruits and vegetables at the corner and at the farmers market. Marijuana should be right there as well, to promote good nutritious health. The marijuana seeds are very nutritious. The buds can be dried and smoked, giving you the feeling of euforia. The leaves can be used to sooth arthritis. I just bought some HEMP hand and body lotion at WalMart in the cream lotion isle. It was only five bucks. It has marijuana seed oil in it to make your hands and face feel rejuvinated and smooth. It's like Ocean Potion. It's made in the USA. I noticed after putting HEMP Lotion on my face, women turn and look at me as if WOW that guy looks and smells great. They even give me a look as if they want me in bed. But im a nice guy, so I just laugh it off. This HEMP Lotion is really great, and it really does feel good. My hands look smooth and my face younger looking. I use it for protection from the harsh sun and wind. Well I better go now so I can roll a joint. Good By, see ya later. PS...They have like eight different kinds of HEMP Lotions.

[Bird]

Asian Guy wrote:

amsterdam legalized it way back when and is now changing that policy.
do you wonder why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_t...
obviously, they have learned the lesson. illicit drugs are not good for society.
personally,I don't think we should legalize drugs. but I believe the only way for people to finally understand this is to allow it to be legalized. see the results.
amsterday learned. the usa will learn.
not as bad as alcohol? imagine double the number of dui. maybe even more...
drugs make you stupid. don't believe me? watch repo-man on tv. check out what's happening on capitol hill.

If I read this right, then most of the problems are being caused in border towns by drug trafficking into surrounding countries and all of the partiers and knuckleheads coming in from border countries to tear it up, so to speak, for a weekend. Kind of how many people pick up hookers in Las Vegas now since it is legal there and basically nowhere else. Nobody goes to Las Vegas to look at the flowers. It is party spot USA. Also, the law says it is ok to sell and smoke, but not ok to grow? Well, where in the hell do they think the pot will be coming from? It doesn't just appear out of thin air. It has to be brought in to be legal, right? So, that means if they simply allow growing, many of the problems would stop. It also means that by creating this law, they have essentially created their own black market problem with it. It's the cafe's bringing in tourists just to be able to smoke. And, to be able to smoke, they have to bring weed inside the country from other sources, they aren't allowed to grow it there according to the article. If they legalize it to be grown, owned, and smoked anywhere in the country, along with border countries, most of the problems would stop in my opinion.

Also, if you are stupid, you are stupid, but if you are bright, a little pot here and there isn't going to put the light out. Again, if you read my post above about how pot allowed my cousin's life to be saved from cancer at the age of 23, you will understand my stance on pot smoking. She is a very important person in my life, we are very close, and I couldn't imagine her not being here to be able to bring the beautiful children into the world that she has. I don't like it for myself, I would rather go fishing, for a hike in the woods, or take a trip to the Sierra Nevada Mountains to think and relax, but for some people, it works wonders and is no more harmful, in fact less harmful than alcohol or prescription sedatives. Let people be able to relax, or be healed, how they feel so long as it isn't hurting anyone else, as pot doesn't.

[Raydot]

BEWARE!! The real dangers of marijuana is the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT! Grow dope, plant a politician.

[Raydot]

President Nixon proved marijuana does not make you commit crimes.

[Raydot]

I can't play the piano or guitar for sh!t when im drunk, but after smoking a joint, I can play far more better than when im sober. I can also drive a motor vehicle better and even work better. People relate pot smoking to laziness, but if you smoke sativa, it's a more energetic high. If you smoke indica, it's a more sleepy type of high. When I rake leaves in the yard i'l smoke sativa and not only get the job done, but feel great doing it. Thank you for that. Try smoking sativa on your lunch break at work, you will make the boss happy, hell ya just may get a raise. I have smoked sativa and indica mixed and threw pots on a wheel and then painted pictures on the pots stoned on, well pot and still sell the pots for a hundred dollars a piece...PEACE**

[jazzy]

legal or not, you can still buy it at ur local park. i prever sativas rather than indicas.

[Enrico Salvatore Rizzo]

jazzy wrote:

legal or not, you can still buy it at ur local park. i prever sativas rather than indicas.

Yeah, and they don't charge sales tax.

[Raydot]

Marijuana is the largest cash crop in Alaska, Alabama, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kentucky, Maine, North Carolina and Oregon. So what does that tell ya?