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Faith and Religion - Muslim Woman Barred From Georgia Courtroom...

There are 15 comments on the First Coast News Jacksonville story from Jul 1, 2007, titled Faith and Religion - Muslim Woman Barred From Georgia Courtroom.... In it, First Coast News Jacksonville reports that:

A Muslim woman seeking to contest a simple speeding ticket in this says she was denied access to a municipal courtroom last week for wearing a traditional Islamic head scarf.

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Since: May 07

Fernandina Beach

#1 Jul 1, 2007
Hmm...wonder how an American woman without a head scarf would do in a Middle Eastern court room? Which brings me to my next question...Are women allowed to drive in the Middle East?
Emma

AOL

#2 Jul 1, 2007
IT is impossible to know who you are dealing with
if you can't see the face. That could have been
anyone. So, was it just to cover her hair or face and hair? I think it is dangerous to allow
anyone in that you can't see the face. I am sure
I could not come in with a mask in my face.

Since: May 07

Fernandina Beach

#3 Jul 2, 2007
Which is probably the reason why they did not allow her in. there have already been problems with this.
dddddd

Valdosta, GA

#4 Jul 6, 2007
Emma wrote:
IT is impossible to know who you are dealing with
if you can't see the face. That could have been
anyone. So, was it just to cover her hair or face and hair? I think it is dangerous to allow
anyone in that you can't see the face. I am sure
I could not come in with a mask in my face.
hair. she was wearing a scarf...not a burka
dddddd

Valdosta, GA

#5 Jul 6, 2007
tigertuu wrote:
Hmm...wonder how an American woman without a head scarf would do in a Middle Eastern court room? Which brings me to my next question...Are women allowed to drive in the Middle East?
yes they can drive. BUT, in some places its not right to walk outside ur house without a male escort.
Dona

Niceville, FL

#6 Jul 6, 2007
when we start bending the rules for immigrants, we squash our right to defend our country. it is for the safety of her and everyone else in this building to remove her scarf. as someone else said, not being able to see her face....she could have been anyone and not the defendent. she could have also been hiding something under her garments. my point....if you break the rules in our country, you deal with the laws of our land or go back. i am not being mean, but she is in our country now.
dddddd

Valdosta, GA

#7 Jul 7, 2007
Dona wrote:
when we start bending the rules for immigrants, we squash our right to defend our country. it is for the safety of her and everyone else in this building to remove her scarf. as someone else said, not being able to see her face....she could have been anyone and not the defendent. she could have also been hiding something under her garments. my point....if you break the rules in our country, you deal with the laws of our land or go back. i am not being mean, but she is in our country now.
it wasnt bending rules. it was being afraid that she had something hidden in her hair. her race was not covered, JUST HER HAIR. It's not bending the rules.
The better way to handle this would have been to ask her into a private room and check underneath her scarf by a FEMALE officer. then t would not have been a problem for the woman or the court.

i dont understand why you southerners cant understand the difference between prtecting a person's rights and being downright stubborn (then again , I expect that from southerners). Always talk about, "well this is american..blah blah". well, in america, poeple are supposed to be treated with dignity.
it would have been extremely humiliating if she were made to take her scarf off and expose her hair in front of all those people....the same it would be humiliating if the court were to try to force u to commit adultery in front of everyone atthe courthouse

Since: Jun 07

Brunswick, GA

#9 Jul 7, 2007
Last time I checked there were people screaming all over the place (ACLU) about state and religion being separated.

This woman's religion is why she wears a scarf. She was going into a government courthouse. Take off the scarf. End of story. A man would not be allowed to wear a hat into the courtroom even if he said it was his religion.

Oh and I don't believe church and state should be separated either by the way, I'm not defending that but, this is the way the laws are so she should adhere to it. I'm tired of catering to the people who come to this country, America, and try to have us bend the rules for their certain circumstances. Either come to America and follow our laws and traditions or go back to where you came from.

You cant come to this country to embrace our FREEDOMS and not adhere to our LAWS.

Since: May 07

Fernandina Beach

#10 Jul 7, 2007
dddddd wrote:
<quoted text>
it wasnt bending rules. it was being afraid that she had something hidden in her hair. her race was not covered, JUST HER HAIR. It's not bending the rules.
The better way to handle this would have been to ask her into a private room and check underneath her scarf by a FEMALE officer. then t would not have been a problem for the woman or the court.
i dont understand why you southerners cant understand the difference between prtecting a person's rights and being downright stubborn (then again , I expect that from southerners). Always talk about, "well this is american..blah blah". well, in america, poeple are supposed to be treated with dignity.
it would have been extremely humiliating if she were made to take her scarf off and expose her hair in front of all those people....the same it would be humiliating if the court were to try to force u to commit adultery in front of everyone atthe courthouse
I thought you made sense right up until you compared the scarf with a sex act in front of people. These do not compare.
Dona

Niceville, FL

#11 Jul 7, 2007
dddddd wrote:
<quoted text>
it wasnt bending rules. it was being afraid that she had something hidden in her hair. her race was not covered, JUST HER HAIR. It's not bending the rules.
The better way to handle this would have been to ask her into a private room and check underneath her scarf by a FEMALE officer. then t would not have been a problem for the woman or the court.
i dont understand why you southerners cant understand the difference between prtecting a person's rights and being downright stubborn (then again , I expect that from southerners). Always talk about, "well this is american..blah blah". well, in america, poeple are supposed to be treated with dignity.
it would have been extremely humiliating if she were made to take her scarf off and expose her hair in front of all those people....the same it would be humiliating if the court were to try to force u to commit adultery in front of everyone atthe courthouse
what part of Georgia isnt southern? i appreciate her not wanting to show her hair for religious reasons. she had a choice, and she could have asked to remove it in seclusion, but i agree that they not allow her in....she could have been hiding anything under the scarf.
Dona

Niceville, FL

#12 Jul 7, 2007
joyleaf7 wrote:
Last time I checked there were people screaming all over the place (ACLU) about state and religion being separated.
This woman's religion is why she wears a scarf. She was going into a government courthouse. Take off the scarf. End of story. A man would not be allowed to wear a hat into the courtroom even if he said it was his religion.
Oh and I don't believe church and state should be separated either by the way, I'm not defending that but, this is the way the laws are so she should adhere to it. I'm tired of catering to the people who come to this country, America, and try to have us bend the rules for their certain circumstances. Either come to America and follow our laws and traditions or go back to where you came from.
You cant come to this country to embrace our FREEDOMS and not adhere to our LAWS.
Hear! Hear!! well said.
Cubby

Sequim, WA

#13 Jul 7, 2007
Would some of you feel the same if it was a Catholic nun and some fool demanded she take off her headdress?
As to people from the south, they are no different from the rest of the country but among the ignorant they have a bad reputation because of old steriotypes.

Since: Jun 07

Brunswick, GA

#14 Jul 7, 2007
I would definitely feel the same way if it were a Catholic Nun.
danielle

Valdosta, GA

#15 Jul 12, 2007
Dona wrote:
<quoted text>
what part of Georgia isnt southern? i appreciate her not wanting to show her hair for religious reasons. she had a choice, and she could have asked to remove it in seclusion, but i agree that they not allow her in....she could have been hiding anything under the scarf.
its not her job to ask. its the city's job to offer she be checked by female officers

Since: May 07

Fernandina Beach

#16 Jul 14, 2007
Cubby wrote:
Would some of you feel the same if it was a Catholic nun and some fool demanded she take off her headdress?
As to people from the south, they are no different from the rest of the country but among the ignorant they have a bad reputation because of old steriotypes.
I work with nuns. They will and do remove the cap or headdress as needed. I've seen them do it.

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