Defense of Marriage Law on Trial

Defense of Marriage Law on Trial

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My Conclusion

Hickory, NC

#1 Mar 27, 2013
Itís not about religion itís not open to interpretation it is not up for men to decide it is GODís Word.
I could list verses in the Old and New Testament where GOD calls Homosexuality an abomination but homosexuals just twist the meaning to meet their needs.
I could list verses on marriage between a man and a woman and their commitment and responsibly to one another (no mention of how two husbands are supposed to treat each other). The Ten Commandments talk of adultery and coveting another manís wife (no mention of another manís husband) obviously the marriage of two men or two women was not and is not an option.

Hollywood has sold us a false perception of homosexuals and they are trying to legitimize their relationships through TV and movies. Now they want the US government to recognize two men or two women living together in sin as a marriage. It may not happen this week but it will happen.

Isaiah 5
20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.
LOL

Lincolnton, NC

#2 Mar 29, 2013
Another crazy cult member babbling about crap - no surprise
who cares

United States

#3 Mar 29, 2013
I am not gay but I could care less if they marry. Why not let them experience the same misery and divorce bs as everyone else. Seriously why would I care unless I thought deep down inside that I could be gay and that would just make it easier for me. If it is some big sin then that's between them and God and last I checked no one is a member of the God Police Department so screw off and mind your own business. If you are living right by your beliefs then you have no problem, if not then I guess it makes sense to want to put the heat on someone else.
Just Wondering

Asheville, NC

#4 Mar 29, 2013
Nobody said that they can't be gay, but that's what they always try to say that is being done to them. That's just propaganda being used to sway the uneducated to their way of thinking. This is about not being recognized as legally married they can't file married tax returns or make medical decisions for their partner or any of the other things associated with being legally married. All this Supreme Court business is just trying to make an end run around the will of the people that have voted it down in the state elections. At least have a clue what you are talking about before posting. No one is trying to outlaw being gay.
who cares

United States

#5 Mar 29, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
Nobody said that they can't be gay, but that's what they always try to say that is being done to them. That's just propaganda being used to sway the uneducated to their way of thinking. This is about not being recognized as legally married they can't file married tax returns or make medical decisions for their partner or any of the other things associated with being legally married. All this Supreme Court business is just trying to make an end run around the will of the people that have voted it down in the state elections. At least have a clue what you are talking about before posting. No one is trying to outlaw being gay.
why don't you get a clue about life in general and take care of your own. I know its not about outlawing gays but let's be truthful you would be all for it and so would probably the majority. That is against what our country was founded on. Slavery was favored by the majority even when it was made illegal. Segregation was favored by the majority when it was struck down. Why shouldn't they be allowed to file taxes as couples and make legal decisions. Who the hell cares and how does it affect you. Not one single gay person I have ever met has tried to convert me, where the hell do you people get this stuff. They have no interest in you or your life style. You are the one on here trying to convince other uneducated small minded people to think your way.
Just Wondering

Asheville, NC

#6 Mar 29, 2013
who cares wrote:
<quoted text>why don't you get a clue about life in general and take care of your own. I know its not about outlawing gays but let's be truthful you would be all for it and so would probably the majority. That is against what our country was founded on. Slavery was favored by the majority even when it was made illegal. Segregation was favored by the majority when it was struck down. Why shouldn't they be allowed to file taxes as couples and make legal decisions. Who the hell cares and how does it affect you. Not one single gay person I have ever met has tried to convert me, where the hell do you people get this stuff. They have no interest in you or your life style. You are the one on here trying to convince other uneducated small minded people to think your way.
Look MoRoN like I posted NO ONE said or is trying to stop them from being GaY. It's IdIoT's like yOu that have to try to make this SuPrEmE CoUrT ruling some kind of all inclusive all or nothing kind of DeAl. Have you even read or studied (or in your case had anyone read it to you or explained it to you)??? I am minding my own, it's my country too simpleton not just yours and unless I missed something, When you have an election in a democracy the majority rules. If you don't like what the voters have to say it's really simple, either campaign for your views and hope to sway enough votes to win the NeXt eLeCtIoN or move your dumb whining like a baby ass somewhere else. I don't like the fact that Obama was elected president but I can't go to the Supreme Court and whine like broke dick dog and expect them to appoint Mitt Romney because I don't like what the voters had to say. Your attempts at bullying me will get you nowhere jackass because whining MoRoN's like you that can't even read a post and try to understand what it means without going into a raging sissy fit are nothing but a waste of oxygen to start with.
oh stfu

Lenoir, NC

#7 Mar 29, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Look MoRoN like I posted NO ONE said or is trying to stop them from being GaY. It's IdIoT's like yOu that have to try to make this SuPrEmE CoUrT ruling some kind of all inclusive all or nothing kind of DeAl. Have you even read or studied (or in your case had anyone read it to you or explained it to you)??? I am minding my own, it's my country too simpleton not just yours and unless I missed something, When you have an election in a democracy the majority rules. If you don't like what the voters have to say it's really simple, either campaign for your views and hope to sway enough votes to win the NeXt eLeCtIoN or move your dumb whining like a baby ass somewhere else. I don't like the fact that Obama was elected president but I can't go to the Supreme Court and whine like broke dick dog and expect them to appoint Mitt Romney because I don't like what the voters had to say. Your attempts at bullying me will get you nowhere jackass because whining MoRoN's like you that can't even read a post and try to understand what it means without going into a raging sissy fit are nothing but a waste of oxygen to start with.
Listen you raging simple minded neanderthal you have a lot of room to talk about education and further more you cant even type correctly. They clearly stated that they know it wasn't about making being gay illegal, now who cant read you a$$hat. You are too stupid to even reason with and therefor have no business voting or having any say over what anyone else can do, I think you are getting so butt hurt because the other poster has outwitted you on every post which isn't hard to understand being such as half wit as yourself. You constantly time and time again refuse to answer HOW gays being married effects you in any way shape or form. You have yet to respond to anything with an intelligent response.

This is a case of equal rights. Under the way this nation was set up by our forefathers and all it stands for the majority rule has no bearing on cases of equal rights. That would be a classic case of tyranny of majority, the same example the other person offered such as slavery and segregation fall under situations of equal rights and therefor the majority vote is null and void.

You can cry all you want but its going to happen and you can get the heck over it. It does not effect you or deprive you of any rights so again get over it or cry more, either way I dont care as I will laugh at you to your face and dare you to do anything about it. I know plenty of gays that you wouldn't spew your vile garbage to but feel free to run that ignorant trap behind a screen.
Just Wondering

Asheville, NC

#8 Mar 29, 2013
oh stfu wrote:
<quoted text>Listen you raging simple minded neanderthal you have a lot of room to talk about education and further more you cant even type correctly. They clearly stated that they know it wasn't about making being gay illegal, now who cant read you a$$hat. You are too stupid to even reason with and therefor have no business voting or having any say over what anyone else can do, I think you are getting so butt hurt because the other poster has outwitted you on every post which isn't hard to understand being such as half wit as yourself. You constantly time and time again refuse to answer HOW gays being married effects you in any way shape or form. You have yet to respond to anything with an intelligent response.
This is a case of equal rights. Under the way this nation was set up by our forefathers and all it stands for the majority rule has no bearing on cases of equal rights. That would be a classic case of tyranny of majority, the same example the other person offered such as slavery and segregation fall under situations of equal rights and therefor the majority vote is null and void.
You can cry all you want but its going to happen and you can get the heck over it. It does not effect you or deprive you of any rights so again get over it or cry more, either way I dont care as I will laugh at you to your face and dare you to do anything about it. I know plenty of gays that you wouldn't spew your vile garbage to but feel free to run that ignorant trap behind a screen.
Oh my my another keyboard Rambo with his e'ffin little rainbow panties all in a wad.
Hello Assclown.
It doesn't affect me in the least, as a matter of fact I could care less. You are the simpleton that can't separate the case before the courts from the outlawing of homosexuality. Who gives a f**k who YOU blow??? I know I sure don't. What's your next battle cry Waldo the libtard? It's none of anyone's business if I marry my sister, or my dog or maybe you'll want to marry your mom next or the twelve year old little boy that lives down the street. Who knows how far your liberal agenda goes? When are you going to figure out that you can't force the public to condone your sexual perversions? BTW Waldo it looks to me like you're pretty good at running that libtard cocklicker of yours behind the screen yourself. I can guarantee you one thing though you sure as hell wouldn't run it to me but once face to face. What makes an ignoramus like you tick? Were you molested as a child?
oh stfu

Lenoir, NC

#9 Mar 29, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh my my another keyboard Rambo with his e'ffin little rainbow panties all in a wad.
Hello Assclown.
It doesn't affect me in the least, as a matter of fact I could care less. You are the simpleton that can't separate the case before the courts from the outlawing of homosexuality. Who gives a f**k who YOU blow??? I know I sure don't. What's your next battle cry Waldo the libtard? It's none of anyone's business if I marry my sister, or my dog or maybe you'll want to marry your mom next or the twelve year old little boy that lives down the street. Who knows how far your liberal agenda goes? When are you going to figure out that you can't force the public to condone your sexual perversions? BTW Waldo it looks to me like you're pretty good at running that libtard cocklicker of yours behind the screen yourself. I can guarantee you one thing though you sure as hell wouldn't run it to me but once face to face. What makes an ignoramus like you tick? Were you molested as a child?
Well for someone that could care less you sure are making a lot of noise but whats that old saying about the empty can rattles the most. Again if it does not affect you then what is the problem? Answer a question for once unless all you can do is throw out insults and cliche stupid remarks, I bet your wife is proud IF anyone would have you. Did mommy and daddy not pay you enough attention as a child? Is that why you are so bitter and unhappy to the point you want no one else to be? Life isn't what you thought it would be now was it boo hoo.

Funny thing you mention pedophiles and child molesters because I think straight people pretty much have a lock on that. You also mention marrying your sister, well there is another straight typically hillbilly sort of thing and we all know how hillbillies and rednecks hate gays but sure do love the little girls and kinfolk. Again the same ole cliche reasons about marrying dogs and sisters blah blah blah. Well for one thing a dog is not the same species so that should be obvious and incest leads to mental problems and birth defects just look around this county for proof, by chance is your parents related by blood?

As far as I go, I am very straight and surprise mofo I am a Republican, I would be glad to present you my voter card if we ever run into each other and I most certainly will tell you to your face exactly what I think of you and your ideas. Maybe you religious nut jobs will have an anti gay rally and I can come out to view the spectacle and tell you all what I think. You have got the easy part done now put your money where your mouth is. Go protest and tell the world how you feel and how stupid you are like we ever had any doubts.
Just Wondering

Asheville, NC

#10 Mar 29, 2013
oh stfu wrote:
<quoted text>Well for someone that could care less you sure are making a lot of noise but whats that old saying about the empty can rattles the most. Again if it does not affect you then what is the problem? Answer a question for once unless all you can do is throw out insults and cliche stupid remarks, I bet your wife is proud IF anyone would have you. Did mommy and daddy not pay you enough attention as a child? Is that why you are so bitter and unhappy to the point you want no one else to be? Life isn't what you thought it would be now was it boo hoo.
Funny thing you mention pedophiles and child molesters because I think straight people pretty much have a lock on that. You also mention marrying your sister, well there is another straight typically hillbilly sort of thing and we all know how hillbillies and rednecks hate gays but sure do love the little girls and kinfolk. Again the same ole cliche reasons about marrying dogs and sisters blah blah blah. Well for one thing a dog is not the same species so that should be obvious and incest leads to mental problems and birth defects just look around this county for proof, by chance is your parents related by blood?
As far as I go, I am very straight and surprise mofo I am a Republican, I would be glad to present you my voter card if we ever run into each other and I most certainly will tell you to your face exactly what I think of you and your ideas. Maybe you religious nut jobs will have an anti gay rally and I can come out to view the spectacle and tell you all what I think. You have got the easy part done now put your money where your mouth is. Go protest and tell the world how you feel and how stupid you are like we ever had any doubts.
I spouted NOTHING until your libtard crew started name calling and trying to bully. BTW asswipe I'm not religious. You don't have to be religious to know right from wrong. You just can't help but try to twist posts to shape people into a mold to fit your agenda, but like most things you're no good at it. BTW you're not a Republican you're too big of an insecure assclown to be a Republican. You may register as a Republican just to please your employer or keep your little job but you're a libtard to the bone. You (as usual) missed the point. If it's gay marriage today, what's next? Would it not also be your view that if someone is in love with their sister that it would be discrimination not to let them marry her? Where do you draw the line Waldo, without discriminating against someone?
oh stfu

Lenoir, NC

#11 Mar 29, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I spouted NOTHING until your libtard crew started name calling and trying to bully. BTW asswipe I'm not religious. You don't have to be religious to know right from wrong. You just can't help but try to twist posts to shape people into a mold to fit your agenda, but like most things you're no good at it. BTW you're not a Republican you're too big of an insecure assclown to be a Republican. You may register as a Republican just to please your employer or keep your little job but you're a libtard to the bone. You (as usual) missed the point. If it's gay marriage today, what's next? Would it not also be your view that if someone is in love with their sister that it would be discrimination not to let them marry her? Where do you draw the line Waldo, without discriminating against someone?
You have been spouting since this whole thing started up last year and you continue to do so, its obvious you have some major issues with it so it would seem you would have some reasonable facts by this time to show just how this will hurt us, anything would do just something to back up your irrational homophobic fears. I want to know how this will hurt one single straight person in any way right now or forever stfu. You can say its not religious based but I think it is, just how you were raised and you can not adapt to any other school of thought period. It's pretty obvious when you say "know right from wrong" well what makes it wrong and who are you to say it is.

I have given you the reasons that incest is wrong but not like it doesn't happen all over this area and in the South in general. You cant say that gays having babies will cause genetic mutations because they cant breed. Who are you calling a bully lol I am taking a stand for others people rights that YOU wish to deny but I am the bully? As far as me and what I am well I suppose you now define what makes a Republican as well huh? No a$$hat I have common sense and not a small minded sheep that has to follow along with the crowd just because that's what I think makes a good member of a political party. I vote conservative on most matters but if I disagree I will go against the my party or any party in a second. You are whats wrong with this country. Mindless sheep what follow along like lemmings to what ever tune your political party tells you... no different than the idiots that voted in Obama because it was the trendy thing to do, you are the same thing just the other side of the coin.
oh stfu

Lenoir, NC

#12 Mar 29, 2013
I guess its easy for me to get riled up over this as I have several friends that are gay, both male and female not to mention my wife is bi like a lot of women are these days, bet you dont mind women on women... funny how so many anti gay people are pulling it to woman on woman porn but that's ok right? I have served with some very gay guys and I can say they were some bad a$$ mofo's that served very bravely in combat, saw a lot of straight people freeze and cry for mommy too. They can risk their lives for this country but they cant marry, I want you to be the one to tell them, surely you wouldn't get your a$$ kicked by some homo's now would you.

I have another gay friend that owns a farm and can run dozers and backhoes better than most people I know as that is part of his business. Drives a dump truck and collects old diesel trucks, works on them too. Can rebuild the hell out a Detroit Diesel. I shoot with him on a regular basis and he is a card carrying member of the NRA just like me. He also is an active member in his local Republican party. Oh but doesn't fit into your stereotype of a fag now does it, by all means please call him one to his face.

As for me, well as said before I am straight and no not a libtard. I cut tree's down when I need firewood. I can guarantee I own more guns than you and was trained how to use them all in Quantico Va. If you can figure it out by now then you should know I am far from liberal.

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Just Wondering

Asheville, NC

#13 Mar 30, 2013
oh stfu wrote:
<quoted text>You have been spouting since this whole thing started up last year and you continue to do so, its obvious you have some major issues with it so it would seem you would have some reasonable facts by this time to show just how this will hurt us, anything would do just something to back up your irrational homophobic fears. I want to know how this will hurt one single straight person in any way right now or forever stfu. You can say its not religious based but I think it is, just how you were raised and you can not adapt to any other school of thought period. It's pretty obvious when you say "know right from wrong" well what makes it wrong and who are you to say it is.
I have given you the reasons that incest is wrong but not like it doesn't happen all over this area and in the South in general. You cant say that gays having babies will cause genetic mutations because they cant breed. Who are you calling a bully lol I am taking a stand for others people rights that YOU wish to deny but I am the bully? As far as me and what I am well I suppose you now define what makes a Republican as well huh? No a$$hat I have common sense and not a small minded sheep that has to follow along with the crowd just because that's what I think makes a good member of a political party. I vote conservative on most matters but if I disagree I will go against the my party or any party in a second. You are whats wrong with this country. Mindless sheep what follow along like lemmings to what ever tune your political party tells you... no different than the idiots that voted in Obama because it was the trendy thing to do, you are the same thing just the other side of the coin.
No I have never posted on this until this thread. I posted on the other one after that only because of the Rambo position you took on this one. You seem to have no trouble lumping all people who disagree with you into a little group and then classifying them as all the same. Well that's just not the case, no matter how much you wish it were. If you had wished to post without all the bravado you wouldn't have chosen the screen name that you have been using, now would you? I have simply shown you that I can treat you just as you treat others all your bravado means squat to me. My point in all this mess (not that it ever mattered to you anyway) is that in my opinion that it's a very slippery slope when the Supreme Court makes these kind of rulings. Laws are changed and legal precedents are set opening the door for the next group that feels they are being discriminated against or are just not willing to go along with the will of the voters in elections that THEY have asked for.
Common Sense

Sherrills Ford, NC

#14 Mar 30, 2013
Here's one you will like. Two NC senators (Austin Allran- Catawba and Warren Daniel- Burke)have submitted a bill that will require a 2-year waiting period before a couple can be divorced. It also mandates classes in communication, marriage counseling, and a 4 hour course about how your divorce will affect your children.

All coming to you from the party of small government. Wonder who's going to pay for all that counseling? And by stretching out the waiting period, seems lawyers will be the big winners. Coincidentally, Warren Daniel is a lawyer!

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