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Jones receives Republican nomination before Primary?

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The Question

Murfreesboro, TN

#1 Jul 14, 2013
So I am looking at the Caldwell County GOP website and find a ringing endorsement for Alan Jones for sheriff. As a Republican, I find this disturbing as it goes against all the by laws and principles that the GOP stand for. Why has this taken place? Is it not the duty of the Caldwell GOP to support all of their candidates and let the people decide on who to nominate? The electorate occasionally makes a very bad choice but the antidote to that is transparency and information. Force is anathema to the basic tenets of the Republican ideals. Freedom and personal responsibility are ostensibly the foundation of conservative/Republican policies. We must win in the arena of ideas because that is the only battle that yields lasting victories. Rather than trying to suppress “unendorsed” candidates, we should seek out strong, honest, ethical candidates to run for office and encourage them without blocking the efforts of others seeking the party nomination. If a candidate is not capable of withstanding a hard-fought primary, how on earth can he win a general election?? Stacking the deck in favor of one candidate over another in the primary undermines the candidate and the party. Sounds like the Caldwell County Republican GOP needs to stand up send answer for this.#CAC 2014
wow

Lenoir, NC

#2 Jul 14, 2013
The Question wrote:
So I am looking at the Caldwell County GOP website and find a ringing endorsement for Alan Jones for sheriff. As a Republican, I find this disturbing as it goes against all the by laws and principles that the GOP stand for. Why has this taken place? Is it not the duty of the Caldwell GOP to support all of their candidates and let the people decide on who to nominate? The electorate occasionally makes a very bad choice but the antidote to that is transparency and information. Force is anathema to the basic tenets of the Republican ideals. Freedom and personal responsibility are ostensibly the foundation of conservative/Republican policies. We must win in the arena of ideas because that is the only battle that yields lasting victories. Rather than trying to suppress “unendorsed” candidates, we should seek out strong, honest, ethical candidates to run for office and encourage them without blocking the efforts of others seeking the party nomination. If a candidate is not capable of withstanding a hard-fought primary, how on earth can he win a general election?? Stacking the deck in favor of one candidate over another in the primary undermines the candidate and the party. Sounds like the Caldwell County Republican GOP needs to stand up send answer for this.#CAC 2014
thats good ole caldwell county for ya! didn't you know they have there own set of rules and laws to go by. they don't care. guess jones needs a head start above everyone to cover his ass. come election time, he'll be out on it!
Insider

Asheville, NC

#3 Jul 14, 2013
Seems his opponent knowing there was no chance of being elected as a Democrat changed his party affiliation for the sole purpose of getting Republican votes. The party was not as easily fooled as some would have wished them to be.
RB Starr

Lenoir, NC

#4 Jul 14, 2013
wow wrote:
<quoted text> thats good ole caldwell county for ya! didn't you know they have there own set of rules and laws to go by. they don't care. guess jones needs a head start above everyone to cover his ass. come election time, he'll be out on it!
The reason they can get away with their own rules is that Republicans and Democrats both aren't writing to the GOP about procedures. If we can get on here and post our gripes why can't we send them to the people we are griping against. Democrats should take issue with this, too.
GOP lifetimer

United States

#5 Jul 14, 2013
You act surprised by this somehow. Have you not noticed Alan stacking the executive board for the past few years. When the red flags were raised no one batted an eye and now you have the results.

I agree this is completely counter productive and in conflict with our electoral process but the GOP has allowed this to happen with plenty of warning of what was taking place. For Gods sake they still have Jack Day at the helm of the board after what he was forced to resign over at ccso. Alan has half the executive board made up of ccso employees. You want to change it? Go to the meetings in force with numbers and demand it.
GOP lifetimer

United States

#6 Jul 14, 2013
Insider wrote:
Seems his opponent knowing there was no chance of being elected as a Democrat changed his party affiliation for the sole purpose of getting Republican votes. The party was not as easily fooled as some would have wished them to be.
I wonder how Alan managed to pull the wool over the Republicans eyes because he has been a life long Democrat up until the time Gary died and he had to change so he could be crowned Sheriff. The fake death bed note that Gary supposedly penned naming Alan as his replacmemt also seemed to pass the executive board without any investigation or question.
Insider

Asheville, NC

#7 Jul 14, 2013
GOP lifetimer wrote:
<quoted text>I wonder how Alan managed to pull the wool over the Republicans eyes because he has been a life long Democrat up until the time Gary died and he had to change so he could be crowned Sheriff. The fake death bed note that Gary supposedly penned naming Alan as his replacmemt also seemed to pass the executive board without any investigation or question.
]I have no idea about a note or the other things you are saying happened in the past. I was only passing on what knowledge That I have learned about this current issue. It seems that it might be a little late in the game to resolve the issues that you are addressing. I'm sure that if you would like to plead your case to the party or go to the media with your concerns that you will get better results than airing them here on this site. Nathan Key is no longer with the Lenoir News Topic and to the best of my knowledge things have changed considerably since he has left.
say what?

Newland, NC

#8 Jul 14, 2013
The Question wrote:
So I am looking at the Caldwell County GOP website and find a ringing endorsement for Alan Jones for sheriff. As a Republican, I find this disturbing as it goes against all the by laws and principles that the GOP stand for. Why has this taken place? Is it not the duty of the Caldwell GOP to support all of their candidates and let the people decide on who to nominate? The electorate occasionally makes a very bad choice but the antidote to that is transparency and information. Force is anathema to the basic tenets of the Republican ideals. Freedom and personal responsibility are ostensibly the foundation of conservative/Republican policies. We must win in the arena of ideas because that is the only battle that yields lasting victories. Rather than trying to suppress “unendorsed” candidates, we should seek out strong, honest, ethical candidates to run for office and encourage them without blocking the efforts of others seeking the party nomination. If a candidate is not capable of withstanding a hard-fought primary, how on earth can he win a general election?? Stacking the deck in favor of one candidate over another in the primary undermines the candidate and the party. Sounds like the Caldwell County Republican GOP needs to stand up send answer for this.#CAC 2014
This has been a technique deployed in many past elections. Fortunately the general base of GOP voters in this county have very little interaction with this "committee". Of course they must endorse Alan as he is the incumbent and considering many on the GOP board are direct employees of Alan. This endorsement carries very little weight yet yields volumes of information about the moral integrity of it's members. Any true GOP voter will realize this is a farce and hopefully question their own association with such. The Caldwell County GOP is not reflective of the average voter but only of a few "select" members that feel they are so much smarter than the rest, that our opinion does not matter as they will proceed with their own agenda regardless. Now is the perfect time to look at the Caldwell Tea Party or even the Independent Party as the "good ole boy" GOP has shown their true colors once again. Personally this endorsement solidifies my beliefs that the local GOP is awash and their Machiavellian type approach is in danger. This is not a true endorsement for the general GOP but rather an endorsement by a select few to save their jobs and political influence. They could not care less about the best interest for the general public. That I'll guarantee you.
Sheep

Greenville, SC

#9 Jul 14, 2013
A few months ago the Lance supporters were saying "the internal support from the Republican Party is already overwhelming!!!!" ... Now you guys are saying they don't represent anyone and they rep party is stacked with deputies. Please get your lies straight.... Lance Wilson, you sir are pathetic... You're a joke and too self righteous! Most of the Hwy patrol does even like you... You're a preacher? Where did you attend Seminary I can't remember? Ohhhhhhh, duh, silly me! You have no education... My mistake!!!!!!
Pike Bishop

United States

#10 Jul 14, 2013
Looks like both candidates are Democrat used to bes.
I prefer to let the voters decide the nominee.
Used to be parties NEVER endorsed a candidate before the primaries are over. I wish it were still so but wlll make my own mind up.
This sheriff campaign ought to be brutal.
mack

Lenoir, NC

#11 Jul 14, 2013
Pike Bishop wrote:
Looks like both candidates are Democrat used to bes.
I prefer to let the voters decide the nominee.
Used to be parties NEVER endorsed a candidate before the primaries are over. I wish it were still so but wlll make my own mind up.
This sheriff campaign ought to be brutal.
Im pretty sure the only time he was a Dem was while he worked for Roger and as we all know that pretty much is a requirement working for a Sheriff. It is to a lesser extent that way with the state to be a member of the in control party. I know back in 2010 when he mentioned running he looked at Dem support because he didn't figure the local Repubs would back him with both Jones and Bracket already crowding the field. I know he doesn't believe in Dem policy, you can talk to him five seconds and figure that out. Jones on the other hand has been a Dem all his life and doesn't represent Republican ideals or at least he has yet to show it. It will certainly be a fight it looks like.
mack

Lenoir, NC

#12 Jul 14, 2013
Sheep wrote:
A few months ago the Lance supporters were saying "the internal support from the Republican Party is already overwhelming!!!!" ... Now you guys are saying they don't represent anyone and they rep party is stacked with deputies. Please get your lies straight.... Lance Wilson, you sir are pathetic... You're a joke and too self righteous! Most of the Hwy patrol does even like you... You're a preacher? Where did you attend Seminary I can't remember? Ohhhhhhh, duh, silly me! You have no education... My mistake!!!!!!
I think I've seen you in other threads cussing and insulting everyone, it sounds about the same. I can guarantee you don't need to be talking about anyones lack of education anymore than I do. I don't think any of the Lance people started this thread as it has been a hot topic among members of the party before Lance even stated he was running, if you were actually involved in the party you would know that. Jones controls the executive committee not the party. The party has been split into two camps since before the last election. No one cares what the executive committee says or endorses as they will be eventually dealt with regardless of who wins. As far as lance having the support of the party members well he does but there again if you were involved you would know that.
Sheep

Greenville, SC

#13 Jul 14, 2013
mack wrote:
<quoted text>I think I've seen you in other threads cussing and insulting everyone, it sounds about the same. I can guarantee you don't need to be talking about anyones lack of education anymore than I do. I don't think any of the Lance people started this thread as it has been a hot topic among members of the party before Lance even stated he was running, if you were actually involved in the party you would know that. Jones controls the executive committee not the party. The party has been split into two camps since before the last election. No one cares what the executive committee says or endorses as they will be eventually dealt with regardless of who wins. As far as lance having the support of the party members well he does but there again if you were involved you would know that.
. Of course a Lance supporter started it. Why would anyone else care?
say what?

Newland, NC

#14 Jul 14, 2013
Sheep wrote:
A few months ago the Lance supporters were saying "the internal support from the Republican Party is already overwhelming!!!!" ... Now you guys are saying they don't represent anyone and they rep party is stacked with deputies. Please get your lies straight.... Lance Wilson, you sir are pathetic... You're a joke and too self righteous! Most of the Hwy patrol does even like you... You're a preacher? Where did you attend Seminary I can't remember? Ohhhhhhh, duh, silly me! You have no education... My mistake!!!!!!
When speaking of internal republican support I doubt anyone considers the "kangaroo committee" of local GOP a very viable source. Again the local GOP verifies how little we have evolved politically and culturally in Caldwell Co. We quickly revert to backwoods, hillbilly , good ole boy politics that have held this area political hostage for decades and subverted potential renewal and growth. Unfortunately for them, many of us see thru the game, spot the weaknesses and will usher in changes. One quick look at the committees and anyone can see the number of jones employees is significant so what option can they really have but to endorse Alan. I doubt any other local GOP in the state actually endorses a candidate for a primary election as it violates national GOP rules but as usual Caldwell Co. GOP shows our ignorance and lack of understanding, only to do as they please. Primaries in May will tell the tale.
mack

Lenoir, NC

#15 Jul 14, 2013
W
Sheep wrote:
<quoted text>. Of course a Lance supporter started it. Why would anyone else care?
Well that statement tells me a lot about you for sure. You have no interest or concern in the way local politics are ran or have a clue how it touches you on a daily basis. You are just an angry Jones supporter but it doesn't matter who you support it should be of interest to any tax paying, voting citizen of this county. I care and so does many others and im not a part of any campaign yet.
mack

Lenoir, NC

#16 Jul 14, 2013
[QUOTE who="say what?"]<quoted text>
When speaking of internal republican support I doubt anyone considers the "kangaroo committee" of local GOP a very viable source. Again the local GOP verifies how little we have evolved politically and culturally in Caldwell Co. We quickly revert to backwoods, hillbilly , good ole boy politics that have held this area political hostage for decades and subverted potential renewal and growth. Unfortunately for them, many of us see thru the game, spot the weaknesses and will usher in changes. One quick look at the committees and anyone can see the number of jones employees is significant so what option can they really have but to endorse Alan. I doubt any other local GOP in the state actually endorses a candidate for a primary election as it violates national GOP rules but as usual Caldwell Co. GOP shows our ignorance and lack of understanding, only to do as they please. Primaries in May will tell the tale.[/QUOTE]Watch out now that's dangerous thinking there. You don't want to be branded a witch or one of those trouble making lance supporters do you. Boss hogg doesn't like trouble in these parts. You mind yourself boy.... lmao.
say what?

Newland, NC

#17 Jul 14, 2013
mack wrote:
[QUOTE who="say what?"]<quoted text>
When speaking of internal republican support I doubt anyone considers the "kangaroo committee" of local GOP a very viable source. Again the local GOP verifies how little we have evolved politically and culturally in Caldwell Co. We quickly revert to backwoods, hillbilly , good ole boy politics that have held this area political hostage for decades and subverted potential renewal and growth. Unfortunately for them, many of us see thru the game, spot the weaknesses and will usher in changes. One quick look at the committees and anyone can see the number of jones employees is significant so what option can they really have but to endorse Alan. I doubt any other local GOP in the state actually endorses a candidate for a primary election as it violates national GOP rules but as usual Caldwell Co. GOP shows our ignorance and lack of understanding, only to do as they please. Primaries in May will tell the tale. "

Watch out now that's dangerous thinking there. You don't want to be branded a witch or one of those trouble making lance supporters do you. Boss hogg doesn't like trouble in these parts. You mind yourself boy.... lmao.
Lol. I fully understand. God forbid we think outside the box. Lol
kratos

Black Mountain, NC

#18 Jul 15, 2013
Sheep wrote:
A few months ago the Lance supporters were saying "the internal support from the Republican Party is already overwhelming!!!!" ... Now you guys are saying they don't represent anyone and they rep party is stacked with deputies. Please get your lies straight.... Lance Wilson, you sir are pathetic... You're a joke and too self righteous! Most of the Hwy patrol does even like you... You're a preacher? Where did you attend Seminary I can't remember? Ohhhhhhh, duh, silly me! You have no education... My mistake!!!!!!
is it true or not? Is the GOP backing Lance? I heard a couple of Weeks ago that Alan was gonna be replaced. Stuff dont add up. Was Lance a Dem? Did he change for the sole purpose of running? Is Alan taking a cheif job elsewhere? There is lots to figure out before a vote can be cast. Is Lance really unliked by his peers? If so, how......give examples
Ponder This

Murfreesboro, TN

#19 Jul 20, 2013
A republican is no different than a democrat they are all crooks. I vote for the law abiding citizens to run the sheriffs office.
independent voter

Lenoir, NC

#20 Jul 20, 2013
Ponder This wrote:
A republican is no different than a democrat they are all crooks. I vote for the law abiding citizens to run the sheriffs office.
I couldn't agree more that's why I will vote for Lance. I know where he stands and that he is a moral and ethical person. With all I have seen and heard out of the Sheriffs Office over the past few years even if Jones was a decent person he has allowed things to happen that he shouldn't had. The Republican party in this county is as corrupt and disgusting as it gets so I could care less what stupid letter is by his name, what does that have to do with being the top law enforcement officer in the first place.

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